Parayko going to Buffalo if approves

[Bubble4427]

Wow, if it happens there's a lot to take in.

First, solid return but Colton is a VERY solid top pairing defensive defender (with a great contract) so this should be the package.

Second, we have NO ONE that can skate his minutes. A lot of folks just don't understand how much ice he skates, and how many errors from other players he covers for. Not saying we shouldn't take this package, but this IMO is a complete rebuild move.

Finally, it now makes me believe that there could be something to the Thomas rumors, as it's going to be at least 3 years (probably 5) before I consider us a consistent competitive hockey team...

100% best take.

If they move Thomas for kids and picks you are looking at a decade before they are remotely competitive. Sure they may squeeze in a playoff year here and there, but it’s an established failed business and on ice model. Everyone thought a couple years ago New Jersey had arrived….guess again. Same with Columbus. Ottawa? Nope. Detroit? Maybe. Buffalo? Chicago? Utah/Phoenix? Vancouver? Philly? The teams at the top stay there. Tampa, Colorado, Vegas, Dallas, we’ll see what Florida does, but if healthy they probably go back to the top. Boston sells off last year and then right back to a playoff contender. Bottom line, if the Blues sell Thomas for more young prospects and picks, this team will be circling the drain until the early to mid 30s based on recent trends unless they are the exception. I’d bet against that.

This. I have not lived in the area for many decades. But even with the Cup win is this franchise solid enough to be a nonplayoff team for the next five years? Will the fanbase turn out?

Solid case for keeping Thomas building here

I go back to the Winnipeg owner when asked why they chose to extend Hellebuyck and Scheifele when everyone was expecting them to start a rebuild and he flat out said the franchise would be unsustainable if they incurred a Buffalo or at that time, Phoenix rebuild.

The loss at the gate is one thing….the loss of the Bally’s television deal is another. That revenue is GONE. Blues might be cutting costs in the short term until they figure things out.

[IsDurbanodoingtime]

Wow, if it happens there's a lot to take in.

First, solid return but Colton is a VERY solid top pairing defensive defender (with a great contract) so this should be the package.

Second, we have NO ONE that can skate his minutes. A lot of folks just don't understand how much ice he skates, and how many errors from other players he covers for. Not saying we shouldn't take this package, but this IMO is a complete rebuild move.

Finally, it now makes me believe that there could be something to the Thomas rumors, as it's going to be at least 3 years (probably 5) before I consider us a consistent competitive hockey team...

100% best take.

If they move Thomas for kids and picks you are looking at a decade before they are remotely competitive. Sure they may squeeze in a playoff year here and there, but it’s an established failed business and on ice model. Everyone thought a couple years ago New Jersey had arrived….guess again. Same with Columbus. Ottawa? Nope. Detroit? Maybe. Buffalo? Chicago? Utah/Phoenix? Vancouver? Philly? The teams at the top stay there. Tampa, Colorado, Vegas, Dallas, we’ll see what Florida does, but if healthy they probably go back to the top. Boston sells off last year and then right back to a playoff contender. Bottom line, if the Blues sell Thomas for more young prospects and picks, this team will be circling the drain until the early to mid 30s based on recent trends unless they are the exception. I’d bet against that.

This. I have not lived in the area for many decades. But even with the Cup win is this franchise solid enough to be a nonplayoff team for the next five years? Will the fanbase turn out?

Not sure, look 10 blocks east for the potential answer and the team two blocks west of Enterprise will be seeing the same thing in about two months and many thought they’d still be in the honeymoon stage - not the case at all.

And the first e.g. are suppose to be the best fans in baseball. I do remember supposed virtuous corp citizen ralson purina and their bluebood asshat chairman ed stiritz shivving the city and fans though. Different times but not like there isn't a history of that as well with bill bidwell and stan kroenke.

[Maplebutterworth]

Does anyone know if CP55 is in tonight's lineup? If he is, maybe he vetoed the deal.

Not in the lineup.

He’s out with back spasms.

Regardless he's not in the lineup.

[IsDurbanodoingtime]

So what is binner thinking at this moment (and tonite backing up hofer)? Supposedly carolina was making enquiries. Edminton and Montreal shopping. If bob moves does he leverage his ntc to get to florida?

[juan good eye]

While I'm onboard for a quick retool (move Faulk and Kyrou) and finish blowing it up next year if the team doesnt improve significantly (50/50 odds imo) -- trading CP55 forces a min 2-3 yr rebuild. Probably best long term.

If Parayko doesnt accept this trade that likely hurts any return for him going forward.

Regardless of what happens, Faulk has to go by the TDL.

IDK - I could see the Blues keeping Faulk if Parayko leaves.

just to (bleep) me off

[the miracle]

While I'm onboard for a quick retool (move Faulk and Kyrou) and finish blowing it up next year if the team doesnt improve significantly (50/50 odds imo) -- trading CP55 forces a min 2-3 yr rebuild. Probably best long term.

If Parayko doesnt accept this trade that likely hurts any return for him going forward.

Regardless of what happens, Faulk has to go by the TDL.

IDK - I could see the Blues keeping Faulk if Parayko leaves.

just to (bleep) me off

Oh shoot, had no idea you weren't a fan of Faulk. Lol, my condolences if my prediction comes true

[Lefty2seam]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vl-V4CPKK ... bXJ0a2E%3D

The player comp made me laugh

[TheJackBurton]

Has Jack Burton been frozen in time? He thinks we are a cup contender?

What? How in the world did you come to that conclusion?

How does that even make sense?

[TheJackBurton]

Mrtka and a 1st at least part of the return

Yes - This is return per Dreger

That would be outstanding.

Love it! Paryako is on the wrong side of 30 and has 1 goal in 58 games. I respect him as a great Blue, but hell yes, love that return if that’s legit.

And he doesn't play on the PP

Samuelsson-Dahlin
Byram-Parayko
Power-Kesselring

Am I underestimating another team in the East, or is it possible that might be the best top 6 in the conference now?

The other team in the conversation would have to be Tampa, but I agree with you because of the age and miles on Hedman and McD.
I still think the Bolts may add a RHD to round that veteran group out.
Detroit will also look to add a RHD

If CP55 approves, does Army keep Faulk to play big minutes on the right side and hold the hands of the youngsters next year?

Faulk isn't nearly good enough anymore to handle those minutes. I don't understand this one at all.

You don't understand this potential trade? Are you in loser denial?

Yes i don't understand this potential trade because we don't have anyone good enough to take his place. Faulk certainly isn't, the cost to get a 1st line RHD is extremely expensive as displayed by this potential trade. Mailloux, Jiricek, and Mrtka certainly aren't it at this point in their careers, so yes I don't understand this trade.

A trade that might make us better in 5 years is not a great trade.

Would you rather be a middling team for 5 years or be bad for a few and then be a contender?

Are those the only two options?

[The Average Gatsby]

Wow, if it happens there's a lot to take in.

First, solid return but Colton is a VERY solid top pairing defensive defender (with a great contract) so this should be the package.

Second, we have NO ONE that can skate his minutes. A lot of folks just don't understand how much ice he skates, and how many errors from other players he covers for. Not saying we shouldn't take this package, but this IMO is a complete rebuild move.

Finally, it now makes me believe that there could be something to the Thomas rumors, as it's going to be at least 3 years (probably 5) before I consider us a consistent competitive hockey team...

100% best take.

If they move Thomas for kids and picks you are looking at a decade before they are remotely competitive. Sure they may squeeze in a playoff year here and there, but it’s an established failed business and on ice model. Everyone thought a couple years ago New Jersey had arrived….guess again. Same with Columbus. Ottawa? Nope. Detroit? Maybe. Buffalo? Chicago? Utah/Phoenix? Vancouver? Philly? The teams at the top stay there. Tampa, Colorado, Vegas, Dallas, we’ll see what Florida does, but if healthy they probably go back to the top. Boston sells off last year and then right back to a playoff contender. Bottom line, if the Blues sell Thomas for more young prospects and picks, this team will be circling the drain until the early to mid 30s based on recent trends unless they are the exception. I’d bet against that.

This. I have not lived in the area for many decades. But even with the Cup win is this franchise solid enough to be a nonplayoff team for the next five years? Will the fanbase turn out?

Solid case for keeping Thomas building here

I go back to the Winnipeg owner when asked why they chose to extend Hellebuyck and Scheifele when everyone was expecting them to start a rebuild and he flat out said the franchise would be unsustainable if they incurred a Buffalo or at that time, Phoenix rebuild.

How’s that working out for them?

[TheJackBurton]

Wow, if it happens there's a lot to take in.

First, solid return but Colton is a VERY solid top pairing defensive defender (with a great contract) so this should be the package.

Second, we have NO ONE that can skate his minutes. A lot of folks just don't understand how much ice he skates, and how many errors from other players he covers for. Not saying we shouldn't take this package, but this IMO is a complete rebuild move.

Finally, it now makes me believe that there could be something to the Thomas rumors, as it's going to be at least 3 years (probably 5) before I consider us a consistent competitive hockey team...

100% best take.

If they move Thomas for kids and picks you are looking at a decade before they are remotely competitive. Sure they may squeeze in a playoff year here and there, but it’s an established failed business and on ice model. Everyone thought a couple years ago New Jersey had arrived….guess again. Same with Columbus. Ottawa? Nope. Detroit? Maybe. Buffalo? Chicago? Utah/Phoenix? Vancouver? Philly? The teams at the top stay there. Tampa, Colorado, Vegas, Dallas, we’ll see what Florida does, but if healthy they probably go back to the top. Boston sells off last year and then right back to a playoff contender. Bottom line, if the Blues sell Thomas for more young prospects and picks, this team will be circling the drain until the early to mid 30s based on recent trends unless they are the exception. I’d bet against that.

This. I have not lived in the area for many decades. But even with the Cup win is this franchise solid enough to be a nonplayoff team for the next five years? Will the fanbase turn out?

Solid case for keeping Thomas building here

I go back to the Winnipeg owner when asked why they chose to extend Hellebuyck and Scheifele when everyone was expecting them to start a rebuild and he flat out said the franchise would be unsustainable if they incurred a Buffalo or at that time, Phoenix rebuild.

How’s that working out for them?

They were the Presidents trophy winning team last year.

[juan good eye]

While I'm onboard for a quick retool (move Faulk and Kyrou) and finish blowing it up next year if the team doesnt improve significantly (50/50 odds imo) -- trading CP55 forces a min 2-3 yr rebuild. Probably best long term.

If Parayko doesnt accept this trade that likely hurts any return for him going forward.

Regardless of what happens, Faulk has to go by the TDL.

IDK - I could see the Blues keeping Faulk if Parayko leaves.

just to (bleep) me off

Oh shoot, had no idea you weren't a fan of Faulk. Lol, my condolences if my prediction comes true

thanks btw not a faulk hater but now is the opportune time to move him. the only player I dont really like as a player is kyrou

[The Average Gatsby]

Mrtka and a 1st at least part of the return

Yes - This is return per Dreger

That would be outstanding.

Love it! Paryako is on the wrong side of 30 and has 1 goal in 58 games. I respect him as a great Blue, but hell yes, love that return if that’s legit.

And he doesn't play on the PP

Samuelsson-Dahlin
Byram-Parayko
Power-Kesselring

Am I underestimating another team in the East, or is it possible that might be the best top 6 in the conference now?

The other team in the conversation would have to be Tampa, but I agree with you because of the age and miles on Hedman and McD.
I still think the Bolts may add a RHD to round that veteran group out.
Detroit will also look to add a RHD

If CP55 approves, does Army keep Faulk to play big minutes on the right side and hold the hands of the youngsters next year?

Faulk isn't nearly good enough anymore to handle those minutes. I don't understand this one at all.

You don't understand this potential trade? Are you in loser denial?

Yes i don't understand this potential trade because we don't have anyone good enough to take his place. Faulk certainly isn't, the cost to get a 1st line RHD is extremely expensive as displayed by this potential trade. Mailloux, Jiricek, and Mrtka certainly aren't it at this point in their careers, so yes I don't understand this trade.

A trade that might make us better in 5 years is not a great trade.

Would you rather be a middling team for 5 years or be bad for a few and then be a contender?

Are those the only two options?

Pretty much. Rebuilding isn’t a guarantee it will work but continuing to stay just in or just out of the playoffs forever definitely won’t.

[TheJackBurton]

Yes - This is return per Dreger

That would be outstanding.

Love it! Paryako is on the wrong side of 30 and has 1 goal in 58 games. I respect him as a great Blue, but hell yes, love that return if that’s legit.

And he doesn't play on the PP

Samuelsson-Dahlin
Byram-Parayko
Power-Kesselring

Am I underestimating another team in the East, or is it possible that might be the best top 6 in the conference now?

The other team in the conversation would have to be Tampa, but I agree with you because of the age and miles on Hedman and McD.
I still think the Bolts may add a RHD to round that veteran group out.
Detroit will also look to add a RHD

If CP55 approves, does Army keep Faulk to play big minutes on the right side and hold the hands of the youngsters next year?

Faulk isn't nearly good enough anymore to handle those minutes. I don't understand this one at all.

You don't understand this potential trade? Are you in loser denial?

Yes i don't understand this potential trade because we don't have anyone good enough to take his place. Faulk certainly isn't, the cost to get a 1st line RHD is extremely expensive as displayed by this potential trade. Mailloux, Jiricek, and Mrtka certainly aren't it at this point in their careers, so yes I don't understand this trade.

A trade that might make us better in 5 years is not a great trade.

Would you rather be a middling team for 5 years or be bad for a few and then be a contender?

Are those the only two options?

Pretty much. Rebuilding isn’t a guarantee it will work but continuing to stay just in or just out of the playoffs forever is a definitely won’t.

So those aren't the only two options then. Got it.

[The Average Gatsby]

That would be outstanding.

Love it! Paryako is on the wrong side of 30 and has 1 goal in 58 games. I respect him as a great Blue, but hell yes, love that return if that’s legit.

And he doesn't play on the PP

Samuelsson-Dahlin
Byram-Parayko
Power-Kesselring

Am I underestimating another team in the East, or is it possible that might be the best top 6 in the conference now?

The other team in the conversation would have to be Tampa, but I agree with you because of the age and miles on Hedman and McD.
I still think the Bolts may add a RHD to round that veteran group out.
Detroit will also look to add a RHD

If CP55 approves, does Army keep Faulk to play big minutes on the right side and hold the hands of the youngsters next year?

Faulk isn't nearly good enough anymore to handle those minutes. I don't understand this one at all.

You don't understand this potential trade? Are you in loser denial?

Yes i don't understand this potential trade because we don't have anyone good enough to take his place. Faulk certainly isn't, the cost to get a 1st line RHD is extremely expensive as displayed by this potential trade. Mailloux, Jiricek, and Mrtka certainly aren't it at this point in their careers, so yes I don't understand this trade.

A trade that might make us better in 5 years is not a great trade.

Would you rather be a middling team for 5 years or be bad for a few and then be a contender?

Are those the only two options?

Pretty much. Rebuilding isn’t a guarantee it will work but continuing to stay just in or just out of the playoffs forever is a definitely won’t.

So those aren't the only two options then. Got it.

What’s your big plan?

[TheJackBurton]

Love it! Paryako is on the wrong side of 30 and has 1 goal in 58 games. I respect him as a great Blue, but hell yes, love that return if that’s legit.

And he doesn't play on the PP

Samuelsson-Dahlin
Byram-Parayko
Power-Kesselring

Am I underestimating another team in the East, or is it possible that might be the best top 6 in the conference now?

The other team in the conversation would have to be Tampa, but I agree with you because of the age and miles on Hedman and McD.
I still think the Bolts may add a RHD to round that veteran group out.
Detroit will also look to add a RHD

If CP55 approves, does Army keep Faulk to play big minutes on the right side and hold the hands of the youngsters next year?

Faulk isn't nearly good enough anymore to handle those minutes. I don't understand this one at all.

You don't understand this potential trade? Are you in loser denial?

Yes i don't understand this potential trade because we don't have anyone good enough to take his place. Faulk certainly isn't, the cost to get a 1st line RHD is extremely expensive as displayed by this potential trade. Mailloux, Jiricek, and Mrtka certainly aren't it at this point in their careers, so yes I don't understand this trade.

A trade that might make us better in 5 years is not a great trade.

Would you rather be a middling team for 5 years or be bad for a few and then be a contender?

Are those the only two options?

Pretty much. Rebuilding isn’t a guarantee it will work but continuing to stay just in or just out of the playoffs forever is a definitely won’t.

So those aren't the only two options then. Got it.

What’s your big plan?

I'm not a GM, why would I need a plan?