Kyrou Injury

[MiamiLaw]

viewtopic.php?t=1517085&hilit=Buchnevich&start=64

Buchy would skate through a brick wall to assist on a goal. Maybe that is what you consider "Low-IQ"

He’s got decent work ethic I agree but he rarely uses it effectively. Low iq (hockey wise) is more about not seeing the ice from the Birds Eye when you’re down there. You can work your (bleep) off but if you pass to a dmans skate when you had a clear path to the net - or perhaps ice the puck when you’ve got all day - your efforts mean nothing

His passes in the playoffs since he has been a Blue... are THE most effective, no?

A disagreement here implies that the entire team has a lower IQ than his...

[Kilokaai]

The team isn’t missing Kyrou, as far as I can see.

Color me unsurprised.

It's been one full game dude.

It’s two games, realistically… and they have even a better team.
From the Captain
"Guys just buying in for one another," Schen said. "At the end of the day there are no complaints and guys are going out there and playing hard for one another. When you do that you start to build something and you can feel it. I think we have had a good response since Boston."

Kyrou played less than one full shift after the Boton Game

Have they really been the better team? Because they barely squeaked by against two mediocre teams? Hofer completely bailed them out against OTT. Had nothing to do with "compete" or anything else you may say that Kyrou lacks. The MTL game was better than the OTT game for sure but nothing crazy and they still almost blew it.

The main point though is that you taking a victory lap on your anti-Kyrou agenda after one (or two) full games is absurd. I don't love Kyrou by any means but you can't take a guy that puts up the goals and points he does, replace it with nothing, and think the team will be better long term.

I question your Hockey IQ on the bolded.
Were you poring over a legal brief when you watched those games?
They had their backs against the wall in both games and nobody backed down.

Its a different bench and a different team.

Lol they scored two goals and gave up 42 shots and somehow won. Anyone with "hockey IQ" would know that is 100% a goalie bail out.

People with Hockey IQ s that pay off don’t speak of stats. They speak of attitudes, swagger, and confidence.
I don’t think you get close enough to smell those things.

if you did, you would acknowledge that this team is better.

Our lives are also full of people with attitude, swagger, and confidence and they are still full of [shirt].

Also people with a room temperature IQ would also be able to discern if the puck is not deposited in the net (generating stats) that you won't win a lot of hockey games with those platitudes.

Winning both those games in spite of their play to this point, and losing so many starters is proof of attitude, confidence nd swagger.

in the broad sense of Hockey IQ. i have seen many teams lose games with a great deal of attitude confidence and swagger.
Nobody wins em all.

The Blues of early in the season would have rolled over and given those games away, wouldn’t they?

Possibly, but your indication that they won because of attitude, confidence, and swagger could just as easy been associated to luck in this sample size.

Getting outshot 2:1 will not yield a lot of victories and it is irrelevant about how hard you play. Those platitudes have to ultimately end up in you getting more possession and further more shots/goals.

[George Zipp]

The team isn’t missing Kyrou, as far as I can see.

Color me unsurprised.

It's been one full game dude.

It’s two games, realistically… and they have even a better team.
From the Captain
"Guys just buying in for one another," Schen said. "At the end of the day there are no complaints and guys are going out there and playing hard for one another. When you do that you start to build something and you can feel it. I think we have had a good response since Boston."

Kyrou played less than one full shift after the Boton Game

Have they really been the better team? Because they barely squeaked by against two mediocre teams? Hofer completely bailed them out against OTT. Had nothing to do with "compete" or anything else you may say that Kyrou lacks. The MTL game was better than the OTT game for sure but nothing crazy and they still almost blew it.

The main point though is that you taking a victory lap on your anti-Kyrou agenda after one (or two) full games is absurd. I don't love Kyrou by any means but you can't take a guy that puts up the goals and points he does, replace it with nothing, and think the team will be better long term.

I question your Hockey IQ on the bolded.
Were you poring over a legal brief when you watched those games?
They had their backs against the wall in both games and nobody backed down.

Its a different bench and a different team.

Lol they scored two goals and gave up 42 shots and somehow won. Anyone with "hockey IQ" would know that is 100% a goalie bail out.

People with Hockey IQ s that pay off don’t speak of stats. They speak of attitudes, swagger, and confidence.
I don’t think you get close enough to smell those things.

Yea scoring two goals and giving up 42 shots against a bad team is a boatload of swagger. Your confirmation bias on Kyrou is as ridiculous as your declaration that Buchnevich has the highest hockey IQ on the team.

Your case is bogus.
I never EVER said Buch had a huge IQ. It’s always about his unwavering commitment to do the dirty work- the grunt details that garner him the most playoff assists since he’s been on this club…

Your idea of swagger seems to be derived from numbers and a detached viewpoint, rather than the way fought like hell to win those games- even though their numbers were bad.

You absolutely argued that, since Buch had the most assists in the playoffs over the last few years, he thereby had the highest hockey IQ on the team. Now that I think of it, that is pretty ironic considering what you are now saying in this thread about stats...

And my view is not just from stats. I also watched the games. Anyone who says the Blues showed any more swagger in that Ottawa game than they otherwise have all season is, frankly, delusional.

Putting words in my mouth is desperate and despicable. I would expect that from a Miami Shyster and that really pisses me off. Moving the goal posts and lying are bad moves in most courtrooms.

I love Buch and make no excuses.
I have never said he had a high hockey IQ.
I am fairly stingy with that accolade.

Stick to the [fork]ing point… if ya can!

Why are you bringing what he does for a living into this and why are you using anti-semetic tropes to detail it? It's a [fork]ing hockey forum and you are being as much of a doosh as you are claiming he is. Your argument that this team is somehow better off after two games without 25 based on the two games is ridiculous. Feel free to call me the N word or threaten to call ICE when you disagree.

Speaking of be better you should look in the mirror and heed your own advice.

[hockey jedi]

Is a Russian guy really celebrating Thanksgiving by frying a turkey?

This might be one of the funniest posts on this forum.

[Jeff Goldblum]

For as much [shirt] as Buch and Sundqvist get on this forum nonstop, they have been 2 of the best players on the team very recently.

[Ziggy3]

Well I think it's because they finally don't have to watch that selfish loafer Walker float around on the ice that they're starting to compete...

Seriously though, what would it say about the "compete" of the rest of the players if watching one supposed floater in Kyrou is enough to demoralize them all? What a dumb argument.

[TheJackBurton]

I don't think you easily replace Kyrous production, 30+ goal scorers don't grow on trees, but he also brings back the best package of players, so if they go on a little streak while he is out, I think its time to seriously look into seeing what you can get.

[Jeff Goldblum]

Well I think it's because they finally don't have to watch that selfish loafer Walker float around on the ice that they're starting to compete...

Seriously though, what would it say about the "compete" of the rest of the players if watching one supposed floater in Kyrou is enough to demoralize them all? What a dumb argument.

I believe the argument is that the lack of effort from one of your most skilled players is dragging the rest of the team down. Especially when he makes dumb passes all of the time instead of shooting.

[Harry York 37]

viewtopic.php?t=1517085&hilit=Buchnevich&start=64

Buchy would skate through a brick wall to assist on a goal. Maybe that is what you consider "Low-IQ"

He’s got decent work ethic I agree but he rarely uses it effectively. Low iq (hockey wise) is more about not seeing the ice from the Birds Eye when you’re down there. You can work your (bleep) off but if you pass to a dmans skate when you had a clear path to the net - or perhaps ice the puck when you’ve got all day - your efforts mean nothing

His passes in the playoffs since he has been a Blue... are THE most effective, no?

A disagreement here implies that the entire team has a lower IQ than his...

I apologize for the slur. It was uncalled for.

I do expect that members who display their profession as part of their screen name to behave accordingly and you did move the goalposts and you did- without question- put words in my mouth. Those things can set me off.

In your quote, which is a snip and not the entire conversation, I never claimed Buch had a high hockey IQ, did I?
I wouldn’t.
He is not a low intelligence player, he just keeps it dirt simple and plays hard and honestly every shift.
In your snippet, it appears I am defending Buch from your claim that his IQ is low. You support that claim by making the case that making a bad decision not only negates laudable efforts, but implies a low IQ and leads to “meaningless” play.
I countered with the fact he leads every player on this roster in Playoff Assists, and if that fact implies low IQ and a “meaningless” effect on the ice…. then doesn’t every other player on this roster need to worry about a low IQ?

I expected more from you and was disappointed to the point of foolish exasperation.

Again, my apologies for the slur.

[Harry York 37]

The team isn’t missing Kyrou, as far as I can see.

Color me unsurprised.

It's been one full game dude.

It’s two games, realistically… and they have even a better team.
From the Captain
"Guys just buying in for one another," Schen said. "At the end of the day there are no complaints and guys are going out there and playing hard for one another. When you do that you start to build something and you can feel it. I think we have had a good response since Boston."

Kyrou played less than one full shift after the Boton Game

Have they really been the better team? Because they barely squeaked by against two mediocre teams? Hofer completely bailed them out against OTT. Had nothing to do with "compete" or anything else you may say that Kyrou lacks. The MTL game was better than the OTT game for sure but nothing crazy and they still almost blew it.

The main point though is that you taking a victory lap on your anti-Kyrou agenda after one (or two) full games is absurd. I don't love Kyrou by any means but you can't take a guy that puts up the goals and points he does, replace it with nothing, and think the team will be better long term.

I question your Hockey IQ on the bolded.
Were you poring over a legal brief when you watched those games?
They had their backs against the wall in both games and nobody backed down.

Its a different bench and a different team.

Lol they scored two goals and gave up 42 shots and somehow won. Anyone with "hockey IQ" would know that is 100% a goalie bail out.

People with Hockey IQ s that pay off don’t speak of stats. They speak of attitudes, swagger, and confidence.
I don’t think you get close enough to smell those things.

Yea scoring two goals and giving up 42 shots against a bad team is a boatload of swagger. Your confirmation bias on Kyrou is as ridiculous as your declaration that Buchnevich has the highest hockey IQ on the team.

Your case is bogus.
I never EVER said Buch had a huge IQ. It’s always about his unwavering commitment to do the dirty work- the grunt details that garner him the most playoff assists since he’s been on this club…

Your idea of swagger seems to be derived from numbers and a detached viewpoint, rather than the way fought like hell to win those games- even though their numbers were bad.

You absolutely argued that, since Buch had the most assists in the playoffs over the last few years, he thereby had the highest hockey IQ on the team. Now that I think of it, that is pretty ironic considering what you are now saying in this thread about stats...

And my view is not just from stats. I also watched the games. Anyone who says the Blues showed any more swagger in that Ottawa game than they otherwise have all season is, frankly, delusional.

Putting words in my mouth is desperate and despicable. I would expect that from a Miami Shyster and that really pisses me off. Moving the goal posts and lying are bad moves in most courtrooms.

I love Buch and make no excuses.
I have never said he had a high hockey IQ.
I am fairly stingy with that accolade.

Stick to the [fork]ing point… if ya can!

Why are you bringing what he does for a living into this and why are you using anti-semetic tropes to detail it? It's a [fork]ing hockey forum and you are being as much of a doosh as you are claiming he is. Your argument that this team is somehow better off after two games without 25 based on the two games is ridiculous. Feel free to call me the N word or threaten to call ICE when you disagree.

Speaking of be better you should look in the mirror and heed your own advice.

I expect more from a poster so proud of his profession that it becomes his screen name. Most especially when that profession requires sticking to the point and providing a fair debate. He move the goalposts and put words in my mouth. I rockon I might have sai ge presented his case like an ambulance-chaser who passed the bar on his fourth attempt. Which brinbgs me to-

My apology for using an ethnic slur. It never crossed my mind that it was anti-semitic. There seems to be scant evidence that it might be so.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shyster

Get off the ledge, will ya?

You were demonstrably wrong about shyster and you don't know anything about me, my friends, my politics.
Your screed against my supposed racism is as baseless as any claim of you possessing substantive hockey acumen might prove .

Move away from the ledge. There is enough lunatic hysteria around here without you adding yours.

[Harry York 37]

For as much [shirt] as Buch and Sundqvist get on this forum nonstop, they have been 2 of the best players on the team very recently.

I agree 100%.

It was Sunny, whom I recently declared had a Hockey IQ that was as high as anyone on the roster. Not Buchnevich.
The little things those men do are missed by so very many on this forum.

[Cahokanut]

The team isn’t missing Kyrou, as far as I can see.

Color me unsurprised.

It's been one full game dude.

It’s two games, realistically… and they have even a better team.
From the Captain
"Guys just buying in for one another," Schen said. "At the end of the day there are no complaints and guys are going out there and playing hard for one another. When you do that you start to build something and you can feel it. I think we have had a good response since Boston."

Kyrou played less than one full shift after the Boton Game

Schenn gets a couple of goals.
Instead of crediting the goaltending. The Only reason those games were won. It was his leadership in the absence of Kyrou that made the difference.

This guy leads like Army. With a ego.

[MiamiLaw]

viewtopic.php?t=1517085&hilit=Buchnevich&start=64

Buchy would skate through a brick wall to assist on a goal. Maybe that is what you consider "Low-IQ"

He’s got decent work ethic I agree but he rarely uses it effectively. Low iq (hockey wise) is more about not seeing the ice from the Birds Eye when you’re down there. You can work your (bleep) off but if you pass to a dmans skate when you had a clear path to the net - or perhaps ice the puck when you’ve got all day - your efforts mean nothing

His passes in the playoffs since he has been a Blue... are THE most effective, no?

A disagreement here implies that the entire team has a lower IQ than his...

I apologize for the slur. It was uncalled for.

I do expect that members who display their profession as part of their screen name to behave accordingly and you did move the goalposts and you did- without question- put words in my mouth. Those things can set me off.

In your quote, which is a snip and not the entire conversation, I never claimed Buch had a high hockey IQ, did I?
I wouldn’t.
He is not a low intelligence player, he just keeps it dirt simple and plays hard and honestly every shift.
In your snippet, it appears I am defending Buch from your claim that his IQ is low. You support that claim by making the case that making a bad decision not only negates laudable efforts, but implies a low IQ and leads to “meaningless” play.
I countered with the fact he leads every player on this roster in Playoff Assists, and if that fact implies low IQ and a “meaningless” effect on the ice…. then doesn’t every other player on this roster need to worry about a low IQ?

I expected more from you and was disappointed to the point of foolish exasperation.

Again, my apologies for the slur.

I didn't put words in your mouth and I didn't move the goalposts. No idea what you are talking about. The thread is there. What you said is quoted word for word. I honestly don't give a [shirt] about this enough to go further than this but if we need a freakin ovaltine decoder to decipher what you are saying, you are simply not communicating it well.

And no clue why you are focusing on my screen name. We are just having a conversation man. I don't agree with you on Kyrou and I don't agree with you on Buchnevich. It's not a big deal. You take it way too personally.

[juan good eye]

It's been one full game dude.

It’s two games, realistically… and they have even a better team.
From the Captain
"Guys just buying in for one another," Schen said. "At the end of the day there are no complaints and guys are going out there and playing hard for one another. When you do that you start to build something and you can feel it. I think we have had a good response since Boston."

Kyrou played less than one full shift after the Boton Game

Have they really been the better team? Because they barely squeaked by against two mediocre teams? Hofer completely bailed them out against OTT. Had nothing to do with "compete" or anything else you may say that Kyrou lacks. The MTL game was better than the OTT game for sure but nothing crazy and they still almost blew it.

The main point though is that you taking a victory lap on your anti-Kyrou agenda after one (or two) full games is absurd. I don't love Kyrou by any means but you can't take a guy that puts up the goals and points he does, replace it with nothing, and think the team will be better long term.

I question your Hockey IQ on the bolded.
Were you poring over a legal brief when you watched those games?
They had their backs against the wall in both games and nobody backed down.

Its a different bench and a different team.

Lol they scored two goals and gave up 42 shots and somehow won. Anyone with "hockey IQ" would know that is 100% a goalie bail out.

People with Hockey IQ s that pay off don’t speak of stats. They speak of attitudes, swagger, and confidence.
I don’t think you get close enough to smell those things.

Yea scoring two goals and giving up 42 shots against a bad team is a boatload of swagger. Your confirmation bias on Kyrou is as ridiculous as your declaration that Buchnevich has the highest hockey IQ on the team.

Your case is bogus.
I never EVER said Buch had a huge IQ. It’s always about his unwavering commitment to do the dirty work- the grunt details that garner him the most playoff assists since he’s been on this club…

Your idea of swagger seems to be derived from numbers and a detached viewpoint, rather than the way fought like hell to win those games- even though their numbers were bad.

You absolutely argued that, since Buch had the most assists in the playoffs over the last few years, he thereby had the highest hockey IQ on the team. Now that I think of it, that is pretty ironic considering what you are now saying in this thread about stats...

And my view is not just from stats. I also watched the games. Anyone who says the Blues showed any more swagger in that Ottawa game than they otherwise have all season is, frankly, delusional.

Putting words in my mouth is desperate and despicable. I would expect that from a Miami Shyster and that really pisses me off. Moving the goal posts and lying are bad moves in most courtrooms.

I love Buch and make no excuses.
I have never said he had a high hockey IQ.
I am fairly stingy with that accolade.

Stick to the [fork]ing point… if ya can!

Why are you bringing what he does for a living into this and why are you using anti-semetic tropes to detail it? It's a [fork]ing hockey forum and you are being as much of a doosh as you are claiming he is. Your argument that this team is somehow better off after two games without 25 based on the two games is ridiculous. Feel free to call me the N word or threaten to call ICE when you disagree.

Speaking of be better you should look in the mirror and heed your own advice.

I expect more from a poster so proud of his profession that it becomes his screen name. Most especially when that profession requires sticking to the point and providing a fair debate. He move the goalposts and put words in my mouth. I rockon I might have sai ge presented his case like an ambulance-chaser who passed the bar on his fourth attempt. Which brinbgs me to-

My apology for using an ethnic slur. It never crossed my mind that it was anti-semitic. There seems to be scant evidence that it might be so.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shyster

Get off the ledge, will ya?

You were demonstrably wrong about shyster and you don't know anything about me, my friends, my politics.
Your screed against my supposed racism is as baseless as any claim of you possessing substantive hockey acumen might prove .

Move away from the ledge. There is enough lunatic hysteria around here without you adding yours.

you screed
we screed
WE ALL WANT ICE SCREED

[Moberly Blues]

Walker gives 100% every shift what u looking at ?

[Aesa]

Walker gives 100% every shift what u looking at ?

I suspect his comment was sarcastic humor. I can't imagine that anyone who closely follows this team would type that and be serious about it. Just my 2 cents.