Byram vs Dobson

[theograce]

You’re not everyone.

You want me look foolish so, so bad which implies caring. Here you are in a hockey thread writing paragraphs about me and Aidin Hill.

That’s how personally I have impacted you. If this is about monkey sounds and family disclosures to cover up isms … you’ll heal

Wanna talk Byram? Dmen? Capable?

[Blue Sabbath]

I ain't trading Kryou for any of these guys. I know there is a lot of smoke but Dobson, Nemec, and Mercer are not the guys. The Islanders have nothing I want and if we are talking about Kyrou to the Devils, Hischer is the ask

From a talent/production perspective I get it, but he's only got 2 years left on his deal and is UFA.

How about Hischier+Nemec? Do we need to add, or is that fair value for you?

Blues would have to add

The cost for Hischier alone would be sky high.

So should the ask for Kyrou

Well…there hasn’t been consistency and there has been public inner turmoil with him

That doesn’t help value … especially at that cost financially

K-Money has consistently scored more goals and played more games than Nico while making roughly the same amount on what is going to be (with cap rising) a very good contract for the remaining 6 years of his deal that go through his prime, whereas Nico has 2 years left and then will be a UFA asking for more than Kyrou makes.

Does anyone know who Hischier's linemates have been in NJ? His numbers aren't bad at all. He might do better in the Lou with players like Jimmy Snuggs, Bolduc, Stenberg, Neibors, Buch, etc. than what he had in NJ.

[theograce]

I ain't trading Kryou for any of these guys. I know there is a lot of smoke but Dobson, Nemec, and Mercer are not the guys. The Islanders have nothing I want and if we are talking about Kyrou to the Devils, Hischer is the ask

From a talent/production perspective I get it, but he's only got 2 years left on his deal and is UFA.

How about Hischier+Nemec? Do we need to add, or is that fair value for you?

Blues would have to add

The cost for Hischier alone would be sky high.

So should the ask for Kyrou

Well…there hasn’t been consistency and there has been public inner turmoil with him

That doesn’t help value … especially at that cost financially

K-Money has consistently scored more goals and played more games than Nico while making roughly the same amount on what is going to be (with cap rising) a very good contract for the remaining 6 years of his deal that go through his prime, whereas Nico has 2 years left and then will be a UFA asking for more than Kyrou makes.

Does anyone know who Hischier's linemates have been in NJ? His numbers aren't bad at all. He might do better in the Lou with players like Jimmy Snuggs, Bolduc, Stenberg, Neibors, Buch, etc. than what he had in NJ.

Why would they trade their Thomas to stl

[zamadoo]

I ain't trading Kryou for any of these guys. I know there is a lot of smoke but Dobson, Nemec, and Mercer are not the guys. The Islanders have nothing I want and if we are talking about Kyrou to the Devils, Hischer is the ask

From a talent/production perspective I get it, but he's only got 2 years left on his deal and is UFA.

How about Hischier+Nemec? Do we need to add, or is that fair value for you?

Blues would have to add

The cost for Hischier alone would be sky high.

So should the ask for Kyrou

Well…there hasn’t been consistency and there has been public inner turmoil with him

That doesn’t help value … especially at that cost financially

K-Money has consistently scored more goals and played more games than Nico while making roughly the same amount on what is going to be (with cap rising) a very good contract for the remaining 6 years of his deal that go through his prime, whereas Nico has 2 years left and then will be a UFA asking for more than Kyrou makes.

Does anyone know who Hischier's linemates have been in NJ? His numbers aren't bad at all. He might do better in the Lou with players like Jimmy Snuggs, Bolduc, Stenberg, Neibors, Buch, etc. than what he had in NJ.

Why would they trade their Thomas to stl

I don't think they would, but if they did it'd be to maximize their return before he walks as a UFA in 2 years.

[Blue Sabbath]

I ain't trading Kryou for any of these guys. I know there is a lot of smoke but Dobson, Nemec, and Mercer are not the guys. The Islanders have nothing I want and if we are talking about Kyrou to the Devils, Hischer is the ask

From a talent/production perspective I get it, but he's only got 2 years left on his deal and is UFA.

How about Hischier+Nemec? Do we need to add, or is that fair value for you?

Blues would have to add

The cost for Hischier alone would be sky high.

So should the ask for Kyrou

Well…there hasn’t been consistency and there has been public inner turmoil with him

That doesn’t help value … especially at that cost financially

K-Money has consistently scored more goals and played more games than Nico while making roughly the same amount on what is going to be (with cap rising) a very good contract for the remaining 6 years of his deal that go through his prime, whereas Nico has 2 years left and then will be a UFA asking for more than Kyrou makes.

Does anyone know who Hischier's linemates have been in NJ? His numbers aren't bad at all. He might do better in the Lou with players like Jimmy Snuggs, Bolduc, Stenberg, Neibors, Buch, etc. than what he had in NJ.

Why would they trade their Thomas to stl

I don't think they would, but if they did it'd be to maximize their return before he walks as a UFA in 2 years.

Which may be a logical move for them depending on what their cap situation and roster makeup will be in two years.
Getting something now versus little or nothing later is a no brainer.

In the same vein I hope the Blues get something in exchange for Schenn, Buch, Binnington, Faulk, Leddy and Parayko before each one is done in St. Louis. It's just smart business decisions.

[Blue Sabbath]

I ain't trading Kryou for any of these guys. I know there is a lot of smoke but Dobson, Nemec, and Mercer are not the guys. The Islanders have nothing I want and if we are talking about Kyrou to the Devils, Hischer is the ask

From a talent/production perspective I get it, but he's only got 2 years left on his deal and is UFA.

How about Hischier+Nemec? Do we need to add, or is that fair value for you?

Blues would have to add

The cost for Hischier alone would be sky high.

So should the ask for Kyrou

Well…there hasn’t been consistency and there has been public inner turmoil with him

That doesn’t help value … especially at that cost financially

K-Money has consistently scored more goals and played more games than Nico while making roughly the same amount on what is going to be (with cap rising) a very good contract for the remaining 6 years of his deal that go through his prime, whereas Nico has 2 years left and then will be a UFA asking for more than Kyrou makes.

Does anyone know who Hischier's linemates have been in NJ? His numbers aren't bad at all. He might do better in the Lou with players like Jimmy Snuggs, Bolduc, Stenberg, Neibors, Buch, etc. than what he had in NJ.

I forgot Holloway!

[zamadoo]

I ain't trading Kryou for any of these guys. I know there is a lot of smoke but Dobson, Nemec, and Mercer are not the guys. The Islanders have nothing I want and if we are talking about Kyrou to the Devils, Hischer is the ask

From a talent/production perspective I get it, but he's only got 2 years left on his deal and is UFA.

How about Hischier+Nemec? Do we need to add, or is that fair value for you?

Blues would have to add

The cost for Hischier alone would be sky high.

So should the ask for Kyrou

Well…there hasn’t been consistency and there has been public inner turmoil with him

That doesn’t help value … especially at that cost financially

K-Money has consistently scored more goals and played more games than Nico while making roughly the same amount on what is going to be (with cap rising) a very good contract for the remaining 6 years of his deal that go through his prime, whereas Nico has 2 years left and then will be a UFA asking for more than Kyrou makes.

Does anyone know who Hischier's linemates have been in NJ? His numbers aren't bad at all. He might do better in the Lou with players like Jimmy Snuggs, Bolduc, Stenberg, Neibors, Buch, etc. than what he had in NJ.

Why would they trade their Thomas to stl

I don't think they would, but if they did it'd be to maximize their return before he walks as a UFA in 2 years.

Which may be a logical move for them depending on what their cap situation and roster makeup will be in two years.
Getting something now versus little or nothing later is a no brainer.

In the same vein I hope the Blues get something in exchange for Schenn, Buch, Binnington, Faulk, Leddy and Parayko before each one is done in St. Louis. It's just smart business decisions.

Army has been smart about this. Stastny was traded for a 1st when we were in a playoff race. ROR, Barbs, Tank. Elliott & Perron. Oshie (sort of).

I don't think the players you listed are in the same tier as 26 y/o Hischier though, and sometimes it's smarter to hold onto vets rather than trade every one of them away.

[theograce]

I ain't trading Kryou for any of these guys. I know there is a lot of smoke but Dobson, Nemec, and Mercer are not the guys. The Islanders have nothing I want and if we are talking about Kyrou to the Devils, Hischer is the ask

From a talent/production perspective I get it, but he's only got 2 years left on his deal and is UFA.

How about Hischier+Nemec? Do we need to add, or is that fair value for you?

Blues would have to add

The cost for Hischier alone would be sky high.

So should the ask for Kyrou

Well…there hasn’t been consistency and there has been public inner turmoil with him

That doesn’t help value … especially at that cost financially

K-Money has consistently scored more goals and played more games than Nico while making roughly the same amount on what is going to be (with cap rising) a very good contract for the remaining 6 years of his deal that go through his prime, whereas Nico has 2 years left and then will be a UFA asking for more than Kyrou makes.

Does anyone know who Hischier's linemates have been in NJ? His numbers aren't bad at all. He might do better in the Lou with players like Jimmy Snuggs, Bolduc, Stenberg, Neibors, Buch, etc. than what he had in NJ.

Why would they trade their Thomas to stl

I don't think they would, but if they did it'd be to maximize their return before he walks as a UFA in 2 years.

The Blues don’t have any home runs to send back outside of Thomas. He’s a homerun.

[bluetunehead]

I ain't trading Kryou for any of these guys. I know there is a lot of smoke but Dobson, Nemec, and Mercer are not the guys. The Islanders have nothing I want and if we are talking about Kyrou to the Devils, Hischer is the ask

From a talent/production perspective I get it, but he's only got 2 years left on his deal and is UFA.

How about Hischier+Nemec? Do we need to add, or is that fair value for you?

Blues would have to add

The cost for Hischier alone would be sky high.

So should the ask for Kyrou

Well…there hasn’t been consistency and there has been public inner turmoil with him

That doesn’t help value … especially at that cost financially

K-Money has consistently scored more goals and played more games than Nico while making roughly the same amount on what is going to be (with cap rising) a very good contract for the remaining 6 years of his deal that go through his prime, whereas Nico has 2 years left and then will be a UFA asking for more than Kyrou makes.

Does anyone know who Hischier's linemates have been in NJ? His numbers aren't bad at all. He might do better in the Lou with players like Jimmy Snuggs, Bolduc, Stenberg, Neibors, Buch, etc. than what he had in NJ.

Why would they trade their Thomas to stl

I don't think they would, but if they did it'd be to maximize their return before he walks as a UFA in 2 years.

Which may be a logical move for them depending on what their cap situation and roster makeup will be in two years.
Getting something now versus little or nothing later is a no brainer.

In the same vein I hope the Blues get something in exchange for Schenn, Buch, Binnington, Faulk, Leddy and Parayko before each one is done in St. Louis. It's just smart business decisions.

Army has been smart about this. Stastny was traded for a 1st when we were in a playoff race. ROR, Barbs, Tank. Elliott & Perron. Oshie (sort of).

I don't think the players you listed are in the same tier as 26 y/o Hischier though, and sometimes it's smarter to hold onto vets rather than trade every one of them away.

Hischier is not being moved. He and Hughes are the two most important players on NJ.

[Blue Sabbath]

I ain't trading Kryou for any of these guys. I know there is a lot of smoke but Dobson, Nemec, and Mercer are not the guys. The Islanders have nothing I want and if we are talking about Kyrou to the Devils, Hischer is the ask

From a talent/production perspective I get it, but he's only got 2 years left on his deal and is UFA.

How about Hischier+Nemec? Do we need to add, or is that fair value for you?

Blues would have to add

The cost for Hischier alone would be sky high.

So should the ask for Kyrou

Well…there hasn’t been consistency and there has been public inner turmoil with him

That doesn’t help value … especially at that cost financially

K-Money has consistently scored more goals and played more games than Nico while making roughly the same amount on what is going to be (with cap rising) a very good contract for the remaining 6 years of his deal that go through his prime, whereas Nico has 2 years left and then will be a UFA asking for more than Kyrou makes.

Does anyone know who Hischier's linemates have been in NJ? His numbers aren't bad at all. He might do better in the Lou with players like Jimmy Snuggs, Bolduc, Stenberg, Neibors, Buch, etc. than what he had in NJ.

Why would they trade their Thomas to stl

I don't think they would, but if they did it'd be to maximize their return before he walks as a UFA in 2 years.

Which may be a logical move for them depending on what their cap situation and roster makeup will be in two years.
Getting something now versus little or nothing later is a no brainer.

In the same vein I hope the Blues get something in exchange for Schenn, Buch, Binnington, Faulk, Leddy and Parayko before each one is done in St. Louis. It's just smart business decisions.

Army has been smart about this. Stastny was traded for a 1st when we were in a playoff race. ROR, Barbs, Tank. Elliott & Perron. Oshie (sort of).

I don't think the players you listed are in the same tier as 26 y/o Hischier though, and sometimes it's smarter to hold onto vets rather than trade every one of them away.

I really don't expect everyone that I listed to be traded before their careers are done in St. Louis but I do think Schenn, Faulk, and Leddy definitely need to go before they're untradable.

[zamadoo]

From a talent/production perspective I get it, but he's only got 2 years left on his deal and is UFA.

How about Hischier+Nemec? Do we need to add, or is that fair value for you?

Blues would have to add

The cost for Hischier alone would be sky high.

So should the ask for Kyrou

Well…there hasn’t been consistency and there has been public inner turmoil with him

That doesn’t help value … especially at that cost financially

K-Money has consistently scored more goals and played more games than Nico while making roughly the same amount on what is going to be (with cap rising) a very good contract for the remaining 6 years of his deal that go through his prime, whereas Nico has 2 years left and then will be a UFA asking for more than Kyrou makes.

Does anyone know who Hischier's linemates have been in NJ? His numbers aren't bad at all. He might do better in the Lou with players like Jimmy Snuggs, Bolduc, Stenberg, Neibors, Buch, etc. than what he had in NJ.

Why would they trade their Thomas to stl

I don't think they would, but if they did it'd be to maximize their return before he walks as a UFA in 2 years.

Which may be a logical move for them depending on what their cap situation and roster makeup will be in two years.
Getting something now versus little or nothing later is a no brainer.

In the same vein I hope the Blues get something in exchange for Schenn, Buch, Binnington, Faulk, Leddy and Parayko before each one is done in St. Louis. It's just smart business decisions.

Army has been smart about this. Stastny was traded for a 1st when we were in a playoff race. ROR, Barbs, Tank. Elliott & Perron. Oshie (sort of).

I don't think the players you listed are in the same tier as 26 y/o Hischier though, and sometimes it's smarter to hold onto vets rather than trade every one of them away.

Hischier is not being moved. He and Hughes are the two most important players on NJ.

I agree. Unless next offseason he indicates he won't be extending.

[b-a-a-a-rclay]

Yes to Dobson. No to Byram. Like what was mentioned earlier in this thread, Byram's strengths/weaknesses are probably too similar to Broberg.

[Pierre McGuire]

From a talent/production perspective I get it, but he's only got 2 years left on his deal and is UFA.

How about Hischier+Nemec? Do we need to add, or is that fair value for you?

Blues would have to add

The cost for Hischier alone would be sky high.

So should the ask for Kyrou

Well…there hasn’t been consistency and there has been public inner turmoil with him

That doesn’t help value … especially at that cost financially

K-Money has consistently scored more goals and played more games than Nico while making roughly the same amount on what is going to be (with cap rising) a very good contract for the remaining 6 years of his deal that go through his prime, whereas Nico has 2 years left and then will be a UFA asking for more than Kyrou makes.

Does anyone know who Hischier's linemates have been in NJ? His numbers aren't bad at all. He might do better in the Lou with players like Jimmy Snuggs, Bolduc, Stenberg, Neibors, Buch, etc. than what he had in NJ.

Why would they trade their Thomas to stl

I don't think they would, but if they did it'd be to maximize their return before he walks as a UFA in 2 years.

Which may be a logical move for them depending on what their cap situation and roster makeup will be in two years.
Getting something now versus little or nothing later is a no brainer.

In the same vein I hope the Blues get something in exchange for Schenn, Buch, Binnington, Faulk, Leddy and Parayko before each one is done in St. Louis. It's just smart business decisions.

Army has been smart about this. Stastny was traded for a 1st when we were in a playoff race. ROR, Barbs, Tank. Elliott & Perron. Oshie (sort of).

I don't think the players you listed are in the same tier as 26 y/o Hischier though, and sometimes it's smarter to hold onto vets rather than trade every one of them away.

Hischier is not being moved. He and Hughes are the two most important players on NJ.

Yes we know this…I’m just saying that would be my ask for Kyrou. I’m not trading Kyrou for Mercer and Nemec.

[Nublues69]

Byram has a rough injury history and is smaller

We have Broberg, so I’m out on Byram

what about nemec and mercer for kyrou

I don't get why all of you want to trade the guy,
who led the team in goals,
was the team leader in plus minus.
and he led the team in playoff goals with 3,
for mediocre talent.
I'm grateful that you are not our G.M

If we can fill two glaring holes with Kyrou then we should. I like kyrou a lot. Dobson + or nemec + mercer.

Mercer and nemec would be the best possible scenario for me.