Byram vs Dobson

[Corban84]

Sounds like both of these guys would be an improvement and fit our core age.

For the more knowledgeable, How do they compare? Style of play? Cost?

[hockey jedi]

We could use both or either.

[dr0zombie]

Both would be really big summer acquisitions. I feel like the Blues should pass.

Byram is a high skilled player with less than great advanced stats. He has a concussion history with the Avs. And he is on the move again. It feels to me like whatever he wants to make isn't really worth the risk. I fear he is a Torey Krug 2.0.

Dobson is another one I would pass on. Not that he isn't a great acquisition. Because he would cost a lot to get and cost a lot to keep. I don't think the asset cost would be worth the risk. Even at a one for one swap of Kyrou for Dobson.

I would rather the Blues partner with the Devils. I like Kyrou plus for Nemec and Mercer. Nemec to me is a much better pickup than Byram or Dobson.

[dhsux]

Both would be really big summer acquisitions. I feel like the Blues should pass.

Byram is a high skilled player with less than great advanced stats. He has a concussion history with the Avs. And he is on the move again. It feels to me like whatever he wants to make isn't really worth the risk. I fear he is a Torey Krug 2.0.

Dobson is another one I would pass on. Not that he isn't a great acquisition. Because he would cost a lot to get and cost a lot to keep. I don't think the asset cost would be worth the risk. Even at a one for one swap of Kyrou for Dobson.

I would rather the Blues partner with the Devils. I like Kyrou plus for Nemec and Mercer. Nemec to me is a much better pickup than Byram or Dobson.

Statistically, JK has been 100% consistent.

Intangibly, he has vastly improved over time with room for upside in this aspect.

If the Blues move him, they need the same player circumstance in return....a solid, no risk player.

[a smell of green grass]

Both would be really big summer acquisitions. I feel like the Blues should pass.

Byram is a high skilled player with less than great advanced stats. He has a concussion history with the Avs. And he is on the move again. It feels to me like whatever he wants to make isn't really worth the risk. I fear he is a Torey Krug 2.0.

Dobson is another one I would pass on. Not that he isn't a great acquisition. Because he would cost a lot to get and cost a lot to keep. I don't think the asset cost would be worth the risk. Even at a one for one swap of Kyrou for Dobson.

I would rather the Blues partner with the Devils. I like Kyrou plus for Nemec and Mercer. Nemec to me is a much better pickup than Byram or Dobson.

I like Nemec too. No to Byram. Maybe to Dobson.

[theograce]

Byram has a rough injury history and is smaller

We have Broberg, so I’m out on Byram

[dr0zombie]

Both would be really big summer acquisitions. I feel like the Blues should pass.

Byram is a high skilled player with less than great advanced stats. He has a concussion history with the Avs. And he is on the move again. It feels to me like whatever he wants to make isn't really worth the risk. I fear he is a Torey Krug 2.0.

Dobson is another one I would pass on. Not that he isn't a great acquisition. Because he would cost a lot to get and cost a lot to keep. I don't think the asset cost would be worth the risk. Even at a one for one swap of Kyrou for Dobson.

I would rather the Blues partner with the Devils. I like Kyrou plus for Nemec and Mercer. Nemec to me is a much better pickup than Byram or Dobson.

Statistically, JK has been 100% consistent.

Intangibly, he has vastly improved over time with room for upside in this aspect.

If the Blues move him, they need the same player circumstance in return....a solid, no risk player.

I am not on the side of trading Kyrou. He does seem to be the presumed asset for any trade involving an updated for the defense.

Who is your choice for solid, no risk player?

[zamadoo]

Both would be really big summer acquisitions. I feel like the Blues should pass.

Byram is a high skilled player with less than great advanced stats. He has a concussion history with the Avs. And he is on the move again. It feels to me like whatever he wants to make isn't really worth the risk. I fear he is a Torey Krug 2.0.

Dobson is another one I would pass on. Not that he isn't a great acquisition. Because he would cost a lot to get and cost a lot to keep. I don't think the asset cost would be worth the risk. Even at a one for one swap of Kyrou for Dobson.

I would rather the Blues partner with the Devils. I like Kyrou plus for Nemec and Mercer. Nemec to me is a much better pickup than Byram or Dobson.

What makes you like Nemec more than Dobson? Or is it more the combo including Mercer (which I also like a lot)? Price tag on extending Dobson?

I've identified these two proposals as possible and favorable: Kyrou for: Dobson+Pageau or Nemec+Mercer

I am leaning towards the latter, but I just don't know enough about Nemec. Fellow Slovak that Dvo likely knows...

[dr0zombie]

Both would be really big summer acquisitions. I feel like the Blues should pass.

Byram is a high skilled player with less than great advanced stats. He has a concussion history with the Avs. And he is on the move again. It feels to me like whatever he wants to make isn't really worth the risk. I fear he is a Torey Krug 2.0.

Dobson is another one I would pass on. Not that he isn't a great acquisition. Because he would cost a lot to get and cost a lot to keep. I don't think the asset cost would be worth the risk. Even at a one for one swap of Kyrou for Dobson.

I would rather the Blues partner with the Devils. I like Kyrou plus for Nemec and Mercer. Nemec to me is a much better pickup than Byram or Dobson.

What makes you like Nemec more than Dobson? Or is it more the combo including Mercer (which I also like a lot)? Price tag on extending Dobson?

I've identified these two proposals as possible and favorable: Kyrou for: Dobson+Pageau or Nemec+Mercer

I am leaning towards the latter, but I just don't know enough about Nemec. Fellow Slovak that Dvo likely knows...

I feel like the up side is better in Nemec+Mercer.

That said, Dobson would be a great asset. He will cost $8-9 mil for probably 8 years and that feels like he isn't quite there for that pay. But he would require we lock him down like our #1.

To be honest all of these trades are a lot of risk considering Kyrou will likely produce well for a solid 3-5 years. Kyrou is a much better asset than a lot of people here want to admit.

[b-a-a-a-rclay]

The Blues need a young top 4 RHD. Kyrou's contract is really good bang for the buck especially moving forward as contracts inflate with the rising cap. Both of those things are true which elevates Kyrou's value as a trade chip or as a scorer who you keep in the fold.

[Corban84]

That's a great point. Kyrou's on a honey of a deal, his contract adds value to any trade.

[Nublues69]

Byram has a rough injury history and is smaller

We have Broberg, so I’m out on Byram

what about nemec and mercer for kyrou

[zamadoo]

Both would be really big summer acquisitions. I feel like the Blues should pass.

Byram is a high skilled player with less than great advanced stats. He has a concussion history with the Avs. And he is on the move again. It feels to me like whatever he wants to make isn't really worth the risk. I fear he is a Torey Krug 2.0.

Dobson is another one I would pass on. Not that he isn't a great acquisition. Because he would cost a lot to get and cost a lot to keep. I don't think the asset cost would be worth the risk. Even at a one for one swap of Kyrou for Dobson.

I would rather the Blues partner with the Devils. I like Kyrou plus for Nemec and Mercer. Nemec to me is a much better pickup than Byram or Dobson.

What makes you like Nemec more than Dobson? Or is it more the combo including Mercer (which I also like a lot)? Price tag on extending Dobson?

I've identified these two proposals as possible and favorable: Kyrou for: Dobson+Pageau or Nemec+Mercer

I am leaning towards the latter, but I just don't know enough about Nemec. Fellow Slovak that Dvo likely knows...

I feel like the up side is better in Nemec+Mercer.

That said, Dobson would be a great asset. He will cost $8-9 mil for probably 8 years and that feels like he isn't quite there for that pay. But he would require we lock him down like our #1.

To be honest all of these trades are a lot of risk considering Kyrou will likely produce well for a solid 3-5 years. Kyrou is a much better asset than a lot of people here want to admit.

I think of it as who is our #1D going forward? Parayko or Fowler short-term perhaps. If we're not able to draft someone of that caliber and Dobson can reasonably fit the bill as at least a top-pair candidate, then (especially with his age) it seems like you have to really consider it.

Then I question whether Nemec is that player. He was drafted as such. Why is NJ considering moving him?

Mercer's FO% has me concerned, but otherwise I see him as a potential fit as well.

[Francis Park Thug]

Byram has a rough injury history and is smaller

We have Broberg, so I’m out on Byram

what about nemec and mercer for kyrou

I don't get why all of you want to trade the guy,
who led the team in goals,
was the team leader in plus minus.
and he led the team in playoff goals with 3,
for mediocre talent.
I'm grateful that you are not our G.M

[theograce]

Byram has a rough injury history and is smaller

We have Broberg, so I’m out on Byram

what about nemec and mercer for kyrou

My pipe dream is Power, but that’s not happening, Big 6’3+ dmen, who are young, defensively sound, hard on their sticks, durable.

But I mean … every gm wants that

[Frank Underwood]

Byram was one concussion away from retirement a couple of years ago. Good for him that he has stayed healthy since then, but that’s not a risk the Blues need.