Byram vs Dobson

[Pierre McGuire]

I ain't trading Kryou for any of these guys. I know there is a lot of smoke but Dobson, Nemec, and Mercer are not the guys. The Islanders have nothing I want and if we are talking about Kyrou to the Devils, Hischer is the ask

[zamadoo]

I ain't trading Kryou for any of these guys. I know there is a lot of smoke but Dobson, Nemec, and Mercer are not the guys. The Islanders have nothing I want and if we are talking about Kyrou to the Devils, Hischer is the ask

From a talent/production perspective I get it, but he's only got 2 years left on his deal and is UFA.

How about Hischier+Nemec? Do we need to add, or is that fair value for you?

[Pierre McGuire]

I ain't trading Kryou for any of these guys. I know there is a lot of smoke but Dobson, Nemec, and Mercer are not the guys. The Islanders have nothing I want and if we are talking about Kyrou to the Devils, Hischer is the ask

From a talent/production perspective I get it, but he's only got 2 years left on his deal and is UFA.

How about Hischier+Nemec? Do we need to add, or is that fair value for you?

Blues would have to add

[theograce]

I ain't trading Kryou for any of these guys. I know there is a lot of smoke but Dobson, Nemec, and Mercer are not the guys. The Islanders have nothing I want and if we are talking about Kyrou to the Devils, Hischer is the ask

If the Blues are semi shopping him, I suspect his value would be lower than people think it should be.

Kyrou hasn’t shown a lot of consistency (goal consistency not included), but to be fair he has played on an average at best scoring line a lot of the time. He could make a trade look bad if traded to a deeper team with more legitimate threats.

Is he coachable? Likable? Self-centered? Defensive? Do the boys love him.

These are things Berube talks to his boys/consults about if his name comes up.

[bluetunehead]

I ain't trading Kryou for any of these guys. I know there is a lot of smoke but Dobson, Nemec, and Mercer are not the guys. The Islanders have nothing I want and if we are talking about Kyrou to the Devils, Hischer is the ask

From a talent/production perspective I get it, but he's only got 2 years left on his deal and is UFA.

How about Hischier+Nemec? Do we need to add, or is that fair value for you?

Blues would have to add

The cost for Hischier alone would be sky high.

[Pierre McGuire]

I ain't trading Kryou for any of these guys. I know there is a lot of smoke but Dobson, Nemec, and Mercer are not the guys. The Islanders have nothing I want and if we are talking about Kyrou to the Devils, Hischer is the ask

From a talent/production perspective I get it, but he's only got 2 years left on his deal and is UFA.

How about Hischier+Nemec? Do we need to add, or is that fair value for you?

Blues would have to add

The cost for Hischier alone would be sky high.

So should the ask for Kyrou

[theograce]

I ain't trading Kryou for any of these guys. I know there is a lot of smoke but Dobson, Nemec, and Mercer are not the guys. The Islanders have nothing I want and if we are talking about Kyrou to the Devils, Hischer is the ask

From a talent/production perspective I get it, but he's only got 2 years left on his deal and is UFA.

How about Hischier+Nemec? Do we need to add, or is that fair value for you?

Blues would have to add

The cost for Hischier alone would be sky high.

So should the ask for Kyrou

Well…there hasn’t been consistency and there has been public inner turmoil with him

That doesn’t help value … especially at that cost financially

[Pierre McGuire]

I ain't trading Kryou for any of these guys. I know there is a lot of smoke but Dobson, Nemec, and Mercer are not the guys. The Islanders have nothing I want and if we are talking about Kyrou to the Devils, Hischer is the ask

From a talent/production perspective I get it, but he's only got 2 years left on his deal and is UFA.

How about Hischier+Nemec? Do we need to add, or is that fair value for you?

Blues would have to add

The cost for Hischier alone would be sky high.

So should the ask for Kyrou

Well…there hasn’t been consistency and there has been public inner turmoil with him

That doesn’t help value … especially at that cost financially

Then I keep his soon to be annual 40 goals per year

[theograce]

I ain't trading Kryou for any of these guys. I know there is a lot of smoke but Dobson, Nemec, and Mercer are not the guys. The Islanders have nothing I want and if we are talking about Kyrou to the Devils, Hischer is the ask

From a talent/production perspective I get it, but he's only got 2 years left on his deal and is UFA.

How about Hischier+Nemec? Do we need to add, or is that fair value for you?

Blues would have to add

The cost for Hischier alone would be sky high.

So should the ask for Kyrou

Well…there hasn’t been consistency and there has been public inner turmoil with him

That doesn’t help value … especially at that cost financially

Then I keep his soon to be annual 40 goals per year

Yeah my guess is his value on the market would underwhelm many. He’s a huge investment with lots to prove still. He’s an expensive gamble.

[zamadoo]

I ain't trading Kryou for any of these guys. I know there is a lot of smoke but Dobson, Nemec, and Mercer are not the guys. The Islanders have nothing I want and if we are talking about Kyrou to the Devils, Hischer is the ask

From a talent/production perspective I get it, but he's only got 2 years left on his deal and is UFA.

How about Hischier+Nemec? Do we need to add, or is that fair value for you?

Blues would have to add

The cost for Hischier alone would be sky high.

So should the ask for Kyrou

Well…there hasn’t been consistency and there has been public inner turmoil with him

That doesn’t help value … especially at that cost financially

K-Money has consistently scored more goals and played more games than Nico while making roughly the same amount on what is going to be (with cap rising) a very good contract for the remaining 6 years of his deal that go through his prime, whereas Nico has 2 years left and then will be a UFA asking for more than Kyrou makes.

[theograce]

I ain't trading Kryou for any of these guys. I know there is a lot of smoke but Dobson, Nemec, and Mercer are not the guys. The Islanders have nothing I want and if we are talking about Kyrou to the Devils, Hischer is the ask

From a talent/production perspective I get it, but he's only got 2 years left on his deal and is UFA.

How about Hischier+Nemec? Do we need to add, or is that fair value for you?

Blues would have to add

The cost for Hischier alone would be sky high.

So should the ask for Kyrou

Well…there hasn’t been consistency and there has been public inner turmoil with him

That doesn’t help value … especially at that cost financially

K-Money has consistently scored more goals and played more games than Nico while making roughly the same amount on what is going to be (with cap rising) a very good contract for the remaining 6 years of his deal that go through his prime, whereas Nico has 2 years left and then will be a UFA asking for more than Kyrou makes.

It’s not about goals. It’s about direction of franchise. Can you build around him. Can you win with him? Is he built for the playoffs. What’s his fire like now that he got paid. Coachable?

He is a massive dollar commitment

[Pierre McGuire]

I ain't trading Kryou for any of these guys. I know there is a lot of smoke but Dobson, Nemec, and Mercer are not the guys. The Islanders have nothing I want and if we are talking about Kyrou to the Devils, Hischer is the ask

From a talent/production perspective I get it, but he's only got 2 years left on his deal and is UFA.

How about Hischier+Nemec? Do we need to add, or is that fair value for you?

Blues would have to add

The cost for Hischier alone would be sky high.

So should the ask for Kyrou

Well…there hasn’t been consistency and there has been public inner turmoil with him

That doesn’t help value … especially at that cost financially

K-Money has consistently scored more goals and played more games than Nico while making roughly the same amount on what is going to be (with cap rising) a very good contract for the remaining 6 years of his deal that go through his prime, whereas Nico has 2 years left and then will be a UFA asking for more than Kyrou makes.

It’s not about goals. It’s about direction of franchise. Can you build around him. Can you win with him? Is he built for the playoffs. What’s his fire like now that he got paid. Coachable?

He is a massive dollar commitment

Kyrou is an absolute bargain right now and that bargain is only going up in the next few years

[bluetunehead]

I ain't trading Kryou for any of these guys. I know there is a lot of smoke but Dobson, Nemec, and Mercer are not the guys. The Islanders have nothing I want and if we are talking about Kyrou to the Devils, Hischer is the ask

From a talent/production perspective I get it, but he's only got 2 years left on his deal and is UFA.

How about Hischier+Nemec? Do we need to add, or is that fair value for you?

Blues would have to add

The cost for Hischier alone would be sky high.

So should the ask for Kyrou

Well…there hasn’t been consistency and there has been public inner turmoil with him

That doesn’t help value … especially at that cost financially

K-Money has consistently scored more goals and played more games than Nico while making roughly the same amount on what is going to be (with cap rising) a very good contract for the remaining 6 years of his deal that go through his prime, whereas Nico has 2 years left and then will be a UFA asking for more than Kyrou makes.

When Kyrou can play center then you can compare them.

[theograce]

Kyrou is an absolute bargain right now and that bargain is only going up in the next few years

Maybe it will…maybe it won’t. But the reality is a cup winning coach said some damning things about him and there are questions about his character

People don’t ignore this when wanting to win a cup and throwing 50 mil around

[skilles]

I ain't trading Kryou for any of these guys. I know there is a lot of smoke but Dobson, Nemec, and Mercer are not the guys. The Islanders have nothing I want and if we are talking about Kyrou to the Devils, Hischer is the ask

From a talent/production perspective I get it, but he's only got 2 years left on his deal and is UFA.

How about Hischier+Nemec? Do we need to add, or is that fair value for you?

Blues would have to add

The cost for Hischier alone would be sky high.

So should the ask for Kyrou

Well…there hasn’t been consistency and there has been public inner turmoil with him

That doesn’t help value … especially at that cost financially

K-Money has consistently scored more goals and played more games than Nico while making roughly the same amount on what is going to be (with cap rising) a very good contract for the remaining 6 years of his deal that go through his prime, whereas Nico has 2 years left and then will be a UFA asking for more than Kyrou makes.

When Kyrou can play center then you can compare them.

Exactly right

[zamadoo]

I ain't trading Kryou for any of these guys. I know there is a lot of smoke but Dobson, Nemec, and Mercer are not the guys. The Islanders have nothing I want and if we are talking about Kyrou to the Devils, Hischer is the ask

From a talent/production perspective I get it, but he's only got 2 years left on his deal and is UFA.

How about Hischier+Nemec? Do we need to add, or is that fair value for you?

Blues would have to add

The cost for Hischier alone would be sky high.

So should the ask for Kyrou

Well…there hasn’t been consistency and there has been public inner turmoil with him

That doesn’t help value … especially at that cost financially

K-Money has consistently scored more goals and played more games than Nico while making roughly the same amount on what is going to be (with cap rising) a very good contract for the remaining 6 years of his deal that go through his prime, whereas Nico has 2 years left and then will be a UFA asking for more than Kyrou makes.

When Kyrou can play center then you can compare them.

While I agree and considered this on my own, it's not about comparing them as much as assessing their value, contracts included. I brought up goals bc consistency was mentioned. I don't expect NJ would actually trade Hischier anyways, but I also don't think Kyrou has some limited value due to being inconsistent or a big question over future production. The argument against trading him is that he's a known asset.

I'm still looking for more info on Nemec, and whether Nemec+Mercer would be worth Kyrou.