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Re: Hopefully that was Kyrou’s last game as a Blue

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Sudsy 11 wrote: 05 May 2025 15:26 pm I've been a Kyrou critic for years. Thought he was too weak mentally to be a difference maker in the playoffs. This year was the first time that I thought he may have turned the corner. Holloway was a good role model for him and DH compete level rubbed off of him. I don't pretend to be a doctor and know whether he was injured. However, that compete level was not present when the Blues needed it the most towards the end of this series. One of the national announcers called him out at some point last night. It isn't just "Kyrou Haters". If he was playing hurt, that explains a lot. If not, maybe the Blues should listen to offers.
I just don't see him as the type of player who can contribute for four rounds of the SC playoffs. Of course, guys will go without scoring ... but when that is the case, you have to contribute in other ways. If he's not scoring, he really doesn't bring anything. He isn't winning board battles, controlling play through possession, etc. JMO.

As a player with just a couple of NHL games under his belt, I though Snuggerud was far more engaged and more consistent in his effort throughout the series. Same with Bolduc.
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Re: Hopefully that was Kyrou’s last game as a Blue

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bud white wrote: 05 May 2025 16:27 pm
Sudsy 11 wrote: 05 May 2025 15:26 pm I've been a Kyrou critic for years. Thought he was too weak mentally to be a difference maker in the playoffs. This year was the first time that I thought he may have turned the corner. Holloway was a good role model for him and DH compete level rubbed off of him. I don't pretend to be a doctor and know whether he was injured. However, that compete level was not present when the Blues needed it the most towards the end of this series. One of the national announcers called him out at some point last night. It isn't just "Kyrou Haters". If he was playing hurt, that explains a lot. If not, maybe the Blues should listen to offers.
I just don't see him as the type of player who can contribute for four rounds of the SC playoffs. Of course, guys will go without scoring ... but when that is the case, you have to contribute in other ways. If he's not scoring, he really doesn't bring anything. He isn't winning board battles, controlling play through possession, etc. JMO.

As a player with just a couple of NHL games under his belt, I though Snuggerud was far more engaged and more consistent in his effort throughout the series. Same with Bolduc.
If he wasn't hurt (i'm convinced he was) then he definitely took a big step back.to win a series you have to do 1 of 2 things as the "star players". 1 is show up and add a point nearly every night. The 2nd is you need to take over a game and make it your game. Thomas showed up every night. Fowler and Buchy had their we dominated games. Those help your team win. Walker had the big game too but it was in a L. That's when having a consistent performer or multipple consistent performers can push a team past the finish line.
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Re: Hopefully that was Kyrou’s last game as a Blue

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dhsux wrote: 05 May 2025 14:14 pm If Monty and DA keep him then I guess the Coach and GM don't see it your way.
This is faulty thinking IMO.

Here are DA's Kyrou options, and I believe that DA was staring these option in the face at the trade deadline 2 months ago.

1. Trade Kyrou, and get a 3rd-rounder in return.

2. Keep Kyrou.

Option 1 would generate a.serious hit to Army's reputation. How do you tell the owner that a very highly-compensated player is only worth that much in the eyes of other teams?

Complicating matters for Army....
Kyrou had a very lousy showing in the playoffs. His trade value is even worse now than it was at the trade deadline.

My guess is that we are stuck with Kyrou. The only way to get rid of him now is some kind of package deal where his exact value is concealed.
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Re: Hopefully that was Kyrou’s last game as a Blue

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a smell of green grass wrote: 05 May 2025 17:51 pm
dhsux wrote: 05 May 2025 14:14 pm If Monty and DA keep him then I guess the Coach and GM don't see it your way.
This is faulty thinking IMO.

Here are DA's Kyrou options, and I believe that DA was staring these option in the face at the trade deadline 2 months ago.

1. Trade Kyrou, and get a 3rd-rounder in return.

2. Keep Kyrou.

Option 1 would generate a.serious hit to Army's reputation. How do you tell the owner that a very highly-compensated player is only worth that much in the eyes of other teams?

Complicating matters for Army....
Kyrou had a very lousy showing in the playoffs. His trade value is even worse now than it was at the trade deadline.

My guess is that we are stuck with Kyrou. The only way to get rid of him now is some kind of package deal where his exact value is concealed.
I'm surprised your hypothetical had them netting a 3rd for Kyrou. Given your opinion of Armstrong, I'm surprised you didn't suggest he could only get a 6th rounder for a 27 year old 30+ goal scorer.
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Re: Hopefully that was Kyrou’s last game as a Blue

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LGB73 wrote: 05 May 2025 17:55 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 05 May 2025 17:51 pm
dhsux wrote: 05 May 2025 14:14 pm If Monty and DA keep him then I guess the Coach and GM don't see it your way.
This is faulty thinking IMO.

Here are DA's Kyrou options, and I believe that DA was staring these option in the face at the trade deadline 2 months ago.

1. Trade Kyrou, and get a 3rd-rounder in return.

2. Keep Kyrou.

Option 1 would generate a.serious hit to Army's reputation. How do you tell the owner that a very highly-compensated player is only worth that much in the eyes of other teams?

Complicating matters for Army....
Kyrou had a very lousy showing in the playoffs. His trade value is even worse now than it was at the trade deadline.

My guess is that we are stuck with Kyrou. The only way to get rid of him now is some kind of package deal where his exact value is concealed.
I'm surprised your hypothetical had them netting a 3rd for Kyrou. Given your opinion of Armstrong, I'm surprised you didn't suggest he could only get a 6th rounder for a 27 year old 30+ goal scorer.
Great. You want to discuss. I have some questions for you.

1) Who was Army referring to in early February when he announced that he was going to trade some long-time players because results weren't changing? Was he referring to Kyrou, do you think?

2) When no one was traded at the deadline, Army said that the other teams didn't offer the proper value in return for our players. He said that "maybe we value our players more than other teams do". He also said that he could see where the trading partner would benefit, but not the Blues.
Do you agree that Army was telling us that we can't get "$%$#$#$$%" for at least one of our players? Who was the player that the Blues valued, but the other teams didn't?
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Re: Hopefully that was Kyrou’s last game as a Blue

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dhsux wrote: 04 May 2025 22:24 pm Kyrous issues pale to the errors by Faulk and Buch on this game.

And Monty has had how long to fix the 6/5 malady? Just what is the problem?

I mean really...........I'm bummed but hard to be shocked by this.
This. I would take another Kyrou over Buch any day. Buch simply doesn’t have the intelligence to play in the NHL.
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Re: Hopefully that was Kyrou’s last game as a Blue

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rezero wrote: 05 May 2025 18:29 pm
dhsux wrote: 04 May 2025 22:24 pm Kyrous issues pale to the errors by Faulk and Buch on this game.

And Monty has had how long to fix the 6/5 malady? Just what is the problem?

I mean really...........I'm bummed but hard to be shocked by this.
This. I would take another Kyrou over Buch any day. Buch simply doesn’t have the intelligence to play in the NHL.

Strongly disagree with both posts.

Buch is a warrior who produces points at a great pace in the playoffs. 20 points in 27 career games- including 8 points in this series.
Kyrou has two assists in 28 playoff games. He is less than a half point a game player.

Buch suffers whenever he has to drag Kyrou around on his line.
When they stuck Jordan on their line, Thomas and Buch's offense disappeared...
Thomas had one point the last two games- an assist on a Snuggerud Goal. Buch had one as well- a pass to a wide open Parayko for an empty-netter, but Colton made pretty dumb decision and barely got the puck past Hellebuyck to Kryou who pool-cued it in.

Buch is grizzly, inarticulate , and Russian.
Kyrou is an Instagram Superstar.

I am with those who will seriously re-evaluate Kyou's future value to the Blues if he is not suffering from a debilitating injury.
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Re: Hopefully that was Kyrou’s last game as a Blue

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Points aside Buch goes to the net, blocks shots, plays late in games, plays PK, he was engaged physically this series, it’s not comparable for me. I do just keep hoping Kyrou will get it. I would definitely explore trade options before July 1st.
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Re: Hopefully that was Kyrou’s last game as a Blue

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a smell of green grass wrote: 05 May 2025 17:51 pm
dhsux wrote: 05 May 2025 14:14 pm If Monty and DA keep him then I guess the Coach and GM don't see it your way.
This is faulty thinking IMO.

Here are DA's Kyrou options, and I believe that DA was staring these option in the face at the trade deadline 2 months ago.

1. Trade Kyrou, and get a 3rd-rounder in return.

2. Keep Kyrou.

Option 1 would generate a.serious hit to Army's reputation. How do you tell the owner that a very highly-compensated player is only worth that much in the eyes of other teams?

Complicating matters for Army....
Kyrou had a very lousy showing in the playoffs. His trade value is even worse now than it was at the trade deadline.

My guess is that we are stuck with Kyrou. The only way to get rid of him now is some kind of package deal where his exact value is concealed.
A third round pick for Kyrou.

70 points last season Kyrou. 67 points prior season Kyrou.

This might top your other illustrious comment how DA literally doesn't want a top 10 pick because he is too afraid to actually pick one.

You said that. You believe that. And now this....a 3rd for JK.

I'll rest my case on your hockey knowledge right here.

Thanks
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Kyrou will not be traded. In fact, it’s in Steen’s contract he is not allowed to trade him. He is the apple of Army’s eye. He is the prototype for Army’s international type of player. Army longs for the day when ALL NHL players are Jordan Kyrou. Mark my word: Monty will be fired before Kyrou is traded.
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Re: Hopefully that was Kyrou’s last game as a Blue

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Red7 wrote: 05 May 2025 20:08 pm Kyrou will not be traded. In fact, it’s in Steen’s contract he is not allowed to trade him. He is the apple of Army’s eye. He is the prototype for Army’s international type of player. Army longs for the day when ALL NHL players are Jordan Kyrou. Mark my word: Monty will be fired before Kyrou is traded.

Oh yeah...whip that boy and whip him good!
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dhsux wrote: 05 May 2025 19:59 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 05 May 2025 17:51 pm
dhsux wrote: 05 May 2025 14:14 pm If Monty and DA keep him then I guess the Coach and GM don't see it your way.
This is faulty thinking IMO.

Here are DA's Kyrou options, and I believe that DA was staring these option in the face at the trade deadline 2 months ago.

1. Trade Kyrou, and get a 3rd-rounder in return.

2. Keep Kyrou.

Option 1 would generate a.serious hit to Army's reputation. How do you tell the owner that a very highly-compensated player is only worth that much in the eyes of other teams?

Complicating matters for Army....
Kyrou had a very lousy showing in the playoffs. His trade value is even worse now than it was at the trade deadline.

My guess is that we are stuck with Kyrou. The only way to get rid of him now is some kind of package deal where his exact value is concealed.
A third round pick for Kyrou.

70 points last season Kyrou. 67 points prior season Kyrou.

This might top your other illustrious comment how DA literally doesn't want a top 10 pick because he is too afraid to actually pick one.

You said that. You believe that. And now this....a 3rd for JK.

I'll rest my case on your hockey knowledge right here.

Thanks
I agree that ASOGG is a Troll, if not a sock of the King Rat Troll.

However, being called out by the Network Guys for lack of compete in a Game Seven?
That is dreadful... He deserved it, sadly.
Two assists in 28 Playoff Games?
That is below abysmal. Texier had one in his three game stint as Blue.
The only Blues with zero assists in this series were-
Joseph 3 GP
Tucker 3 GP
Binnington Goalie
Kyrou

He sucked and he sucked very, very hard.
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You only get a 3rd for Kyrou if you include Dags.
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Re: Hopefully that was Kyrou’s last game as a Blue

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dhsux wrote: 05 May 2025 19:59 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 05 May 2025 17:51 pm
dhsux wrote: 05 May 2025 14:14 pm If Monty and DA keep him then I guess the Coach and GM don't see it your way.
This is faulty thinking IMO.

Here are DA's Kyrou options, and I believe that DA was staring these option in the face at the trade deadline 2 months ago.

1. Trade Kyrou, and get a 3rd-rounder in return.

2. Keep Kyrou.

Option 1 would generate a.serious hit to Army's reputation. How do you tell the owner that a very highly-compensated player is only worth that much in the eyes of other teams?

Complicating matters for Army....
Kyrou had a very lousy showing in the playoffs. His trade value is even worse now than it was at the trade deadline.

My guess is that we are stuck with Kyrou. The only way to get rid of him now is some kind of package deal where his exact value is concealed.
A third round pick for Kyrou.

70 points last season Kyrou. 67 points prior season Kyrou.

This might top your other illustrious comment how DA literally doesn't want a top 10 pick because he is too afraid to actually pick one.

You said that. You believe that. And now this....a 3rd for JK.

I'll rest my case on your hockey knowledge right here.

Thanks
I have to say that I am flattered by your knowledge about my knowledge.

When I'm picking my next assistant, I'll give you a call. I can never get good knowledge out there fast enough.
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:D
somni wrote: 05 May 2025 20:32 pm You only get a 3rd for Kyrou if you include Dags.
For the Win!!!

if Kyrou ain’t hurt… this is truth.
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Re: Hopefully that was Kyrou’s last game as a Blue

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Harry York 37 wrote: 05 May 2025 20:25 pm
dhsux wrote: 05 May 2025 19:59 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 05 May 2025 17:51 pm
dhsux wrote: 05 May 2025 14:14 pm If Monty and DA keep him then I guess the Coach and GM don't see it your way.
This is faulty thinking IMO.

Here are DA's Kyrou options, and I believe that DA was staring these option in the face at the trade deadline 2 months ago.

1. Trade Kyrou, and get a 3rd-rounder in return.

2. Keep Kyrou.

Option 1 would generate a.serious hit to Army's reputation. How do you tell the owner that a very highly-compensated player is only worth that much in the eyes of other teams?

Complicating matters for Army....
Kyrou had a very lousy showing in the playoffs. His trade value is even worse now than it was at the trade deadline.

My guess is that we are stuck with Kyrou. The only way to get rid of him now is some kind of package deal where his exact value is concealed.
A third round pick for Kyrou.

70 points last season Kyrou. 67 points prior season Kyrou.

This might top your other illustrious comment how DA literally doesn't want a top 10 pick because he is too afraid to actually pick one.

You said that. You believe that. And now this....a 3rd for JK.

I'll rest my case on your hockey knowledge right here.

Thanks
I agree that ASOGG is a Troll, if not a sock of the King Rat Troll.

However, being called out by the Network Guys for lack of compete in a Game Seven?
That is dreadful... He deserved it, sadly.
Two assists in 28 Playoff Games?
That is below abysmal. Texier had one in his three game stint as Blue.
The only Blues with zero assists in this series were-
Joseph 3 GP
Tucker 3 GP
Binnington Goalie
Kyrou

He sucked and he sucked very, very hard.
Why must I clear the puck successfully again?

I am Douglas P. Armstrong's sock. How many times must I tell you?

He/I told you that "things aren't changing, and the players who have been here the longest are to blame".

Then he told us that he could get NOTHING for the long-time players that he wanted to dump.

Put two and two and Kyrou together, folks.

Signed
ASOGG and Douglas P Army
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