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Melville wrote: ↑13 Jul 2025 16:40 pm

craviduce wrote: ↑13 Jul 2025 16:27 pm

Melville wrote: ↑13 Jul 2025 16:23 pm

renostl wrote: ↑13 Jul 2025 14:55 pm

craviduce wrote: ↑13 Jul 2025 14:38 pm Try this again.... NEW POLL

https://poll-maker.com/poll5534415x0FCAC17b-164 If Anderson, Doyle, Hernandez, and Holliday are gone, who do you want at #5?

It be difficult to be too disappointed at least this year.
Rationale to each choice.

Pitcher vs hitter. IF the pitchers left are seen as a #3 or less
I'd go hitter, Irish, Willits, or Parker.
I've yet to vote

Everything I have read and heard indicates at the college level this is a very good year for pitching prospects and a below average year for hitters
Because the college hitter crop is viewed as thin, the high school position players are getting more hype than they should.
If STL has the opportunity to select one of the top 3 college pitchers, rather than a college bat or HS lottery guess, that is the smartest play.
No guarantees in any draft, but strategically that is the soundest decision

for top end? It's not a very good year. For 20-60 in the draft, it's a very good year .

Anderson, Doyle, and Arnold wouldn't go in the top 15 last year....probably not Top 25 for 2 of them. SMith and Burns were very good, and Clinjeje and Yesavage were very good.....those 4 beat all 3 of the top LHP this year.

But we are talking the 5 pick.
Not 30 or 40.
If one of the top 3 starting pitchers (college) is on the board, that is the best option for where the organization is at right now.
They need to restock the rotation and waiting 5 or 6 years for a HS kid - position or pitcher- with huge risks, simply makes no sense.
As you say, the team can look later in the draft for a college bat - that opportunity will be there.
There is no logical basis for skipping over a top 3 college starter
That said, I know we agree that all first round picks are pure projection and none are guaranteed.
As I recall, some high school 3B named Walker was considered the best power hitting draft prospect in the entire draft a few years back ...

AtillaTheBlue1 wrote: ↑13 Jul 2025 17:48 pm he was the #8 ranked prospect, and cardinals chose closer to being ready bullpen arm over talented HS kid.

renostl wrote: ↑13 Jul 2025 17:04 pm

Melville wrote: ↑13 Jul 2025 16:23 pm

renostl wrote: ↑13 Jul 2025 14:55 pm

craviduce wrote: ↑13 Jul 2025 14:38 pm Try this again.... NEW POLL

https://poll-maker.com/poll5534415x0FCAC17b-164 If Anderson, Doyle, Hernandez, and Holliday are gone, who do you want at #5?

It be difficult to be too disappointed at least this year.
Rationale to each choice.

Pitcher vs hitter. IF the pitchers left are seen as a #3 or less
I'd go hitter, Irish, Willits, or Parker.
I've yet to vote

Everything I have read and heard indicates at the college level this is a very good year for pitching prospects and a below average year for hitters
Because the college hitter crop is viewed as thin, the high school position players are getting more hype than they should.
If STL has the opportunity to select one of the top 3 college pitchers, rather than a college bat or HS lottery guess, that is the smartest play.
No guarantees in any draft, but strategically that is the soundest decision

Of course you are not any more wrong in
the attempt to predict the future.

To me you project each player. If it’s a pitcher and you are picking this high that individual pitcher should project as a #1 or #2 otherwise how much superior is that over what may be there in round 2?

If the Cards don't see a 1 or 2 left when they pick at #5
my hope would be for the best bat. I fully understand and appreciate that #3-#5 are needed too.

PadsFS07 wrote: ↑13 Jul 2025 17:46 pm

Cusecards wrote: ↑13 Jul 2025 17:43 pm

PadsFS07 wrote: ↑13 Jul 2025 17:39 pm Yall are ridiculous.

LMAO
The comments I’m reading from the “experts” on CT should forever be preserved in a time capsule for future generations!

Exactly. He will be a great starter for us and may be ready to debut next year. Imagine if him and Wetherholt debut in the same year.

craviduce wrote: ↑13 Jul 2025 17:48 pm

AZ_Cardsfan wrote: ↑13 Jul 2025 17:47 pm How many picks tonight?

we have 4....3 rounds

cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑13 Jul 2025 17:49 pm

AtillaTheBlue1 wrote: ↑13 Jul 2025 17:48 pm he was the #8 ranked prospect, and cardinals chose closer to being ready bullpen arm over talented HS kid.

Talented HS pitcher will not be seen for 4-5 years or so, if ever at all. Those guys are huge gambles.

Melville wrote: ↑13 Jul 2025 17:48 pm

Melville wrote: ↑13 Jul 2025 16:40 pm

craviduce wrote: ↑13 Jul 2025 16:27 pm

Melville wrote: ↑13 Jul 2025 16:23 pm

renostl wrote: ↑13 Jul 2025 14:55 pm

craviduce wrote: ↑13 Jul 2025 14:38 pm Try this again.... NEW POLL

https://poll-maker.com/poll5534415x0FCAC17b-164 If Anderson, Doyle, Hernandez, and Holliday are gone, who do you want at #5?

It be difficult to be too disappointed at least this year.
Rationale to each choice.

Pitcher vs hitter. IF the pitchers left are seen as a #3 or less
I'd go hitter, Irish, Willits, or Parker.
I've yet to vote

Everything I have read and heard indicates at the college level this is a very good year for pitching prospects and a below average year for hitters
Because the college hitter crop is viewed as thin, the high school position players are getting more hype than they should.
If STL has the opportunity to select one of the top 3 college pitchers, rather than a college bat or HS lottery guess, that is the smartest play.
No guarantees in any draft, but strategically that is the soundest decision

for top end? It's not a very good year. For 20-60 in the draft, it's a very good year .

Anderson, Doyle, and Arnold wouldn't go in the top 15 last year....probably not Top 25 for 2 of them. SMith and Burns were very good, and Clinjeje and Yesavage were very good.....those 4 beat all 3 of the top LHP this year.

But we are talking the 5 pick.
Not 30 or 40.
If one of the top 3 starting pitchers (college) is on the board, that is the best option for where the organization is at right now.
They need to restock the rotation and waiting 5 or 6 years for a HS kid - position or pitcher- with huge risks, simply makes no sense.
As you say, the team can look later in the draft for a college bat - that opportunity will be there.
There is no logical basis for skipping over a top 3 college starter
That said, I know we agree that all first round picks are pure projection and none are guaranteed.
As I recall, some high school 3B named Walker was considered the best power hitting draft prospect in the entire draft a few years back ...

Cardinals saw it the same way I did.

vegascardsfan5890 wrote: ↑13 Jul 2025 17:44 pm I wonder if the cardinals drafted this kid with the intention of throwing him in the bullpen this year?

A few analysts on ESPN said this is the one kid who could be MLB ready immediately