Bregman sure would have looked good at 3rd for the Cards.

[Ozziesfan41]

But that's all right because Bloom and DeWitt are getting that talent pipeline up to speed and int 2 or 10 years they'll be a juggernaut. The difference between spending to win or tanking. Oh excuse me, I meant "rebuilding".

Why do you start dumb threads. And this one is really dumb.

Is Bregman a superstar worth 5/$175 or $35m per year in his ages 32-36? No. Not a great bargain. Betting he isn't close to the star he was aged 28-31. Putting aside that he isn't a great use of money......

STL is in a rebuild. You don't throw money at aging stars on their down slope during a rebuild. And the rebuild is going quite well but seems you are missing or dissing it. When the new Owner/Player contract is signed next year and STL has figured out who is real (and I think they are close) then they can spend money on some veteran talent to make a run. Might still be a year early and might want to stay the course on getting talent at a batter cost basis than Bregman.

Based on current obligations they have a lot of room to spend. Hopefully money better spent than what the Cubs are getting from Bregman.

You are sooooo dumb! St Louis is in a rebuild blah blah blah blah. Not beating this dead horse with you. You obviously feel it's okay for the team to tank so go buy some overpriced merch and beers while ownership sits back and puffs on a big ole stogie and laughs their collective a$$e$ off at you. Enjoy.

I certainly will enjoy the rebuild it certainly beats the sustained mediocrity with no hope that has been going on for a long time now

[CCard]

But that's all right because Bloom and DeWitt are getting that talent pipeline up to speed and int 2 or 10 years they'll be a juggernaut. The difference between spending to win or tanking. Oh excuse me, I meant "rebuilding".

The guy making $35 mil a year with an OPS+ of 100?

Look at his career stats and sneer. Where would he be on the depth chart for the Cards?

You're right. Pay no attention to the stats in front of you. Instead justify your answer by looking at past performance.

Short sample size bias. You have no idea how his entire season will go. I have no real axe to grind here. I'm no huge fan of Bregman. Did the Cubs overpay? Maybe. Probably. But they have a legitimate bat at third base and he just beat the Cards today. At least they're trying to win. The Cards ownership made it clear from the get go that they want to lose. I can't support that bull.

[mattmitchl44]

But that's all right because Bloom and DeWitt are getting that talent pipeline up to speed and int 2 or 10 years they'll be a juggernaut. The difference between spending to win or tanking. Oh excuse me, I meant "rebuilding".

The guy making $35 mil a year with an OPS+ of 100?

Look at his career stats and sneer. Where would he be on the depth chart for the Cards?

You're right. Pay no attention to the stats in front of you. Instead justify your answer by looking at past performance.

Short sample size bias. You have no idea how his entire season will go. I have no real axe to grind here. I'm no huge fan of Bregman. Did the Cubs overpay? Maybe. Probably. But they have a legitimate bat at third base and he just beat the Cards today. At least they're trying to win. The Cards ownership made it clear from the get go that they want to lose. I can't support that bull.

And that is exactly what you DON'T do when you don't have a sufficient core of young, cost controlled players ready to "win now."

AFTER the Cardinals have a sufficient core of young, cost controlled players in place, maybe then you can think about paying/overpaying for that last piece or two that you need to "win now."

But it would just be foolish to for them to lock themselves into a deal like Bregman's (who is likely to continue declining in the mid-to-late 30s) now when they aren't ready to compete.

Spending has to be smart and timely if a team like the Cardinals is going to win another WS anytime soon.

[Ronnie Dobbs]

Look at his career stats and sneer. Where would he be on the depth chart for the Cards?

Okay, Mo. Signing old players based on their career stats is what got the Cardinals in the situation we are at. But, hey, if you want to bring that back, good for you. I'm looking forward to another Cubs rebuild in a few years because of dumb signings like this.

[rockondlouie]

But that's all right because Bloom and DeWitt are getting that talent pipeline up to speed and int 2 or 10 years they'll be a juggernaut. The difference between spending to win or tanking. Oh excuse me, I meant "rebuilding".

The guy making $35 mil a year with an OPS+ of 100?

No kidding what a maroon

+1

[CCard]

Look at his career stats and sneer. Where would he be on the depth chart for the Cards?

Okay, Mo. Signing old players based on their career stats is what got the Cardinals in the situation we are at. But, hey, if you want to bring that back, good for you. I'm looking forward to another Cubs rebuild in a few years because of dumb signings like this.

Meanwhile, they're most likely going to make the playoffs and have a puncher's chance at winning it all. But stay comfortable in the knowledge that you support saving the BILLIONAIRE owners some much needed and deserved money.

[CCard]

But that's all right because Bloom and DeWitt are getting that talent pipeline up to speed and int 2 or 10 years they'll be a juggernaut. The difference between spending to win or tanking. Oh excuse me, I meant "rebuilding".

The guy making $35 mil a year with an OPS+ of 100?

Look at his career stats and sneer. Where would he be on the depth chart for the Cards?

You're right. Pay no attention to the stats in front of you. Instead justify your answer by looking at past performance.

Short sample size bias. You have no idea how his entire season will go. I have no real axe to grind here. I'm no huge fan of Bregman. Did the Cubs overpay? Maybe. Probably. But they have a legitimate bat at third base and he just beat the Cards today. At least they're trying to win. The Cards ownership made it clear from the get go that they want to lose. I can't support that bull.

And that is exactly what you DON'T do when you don't have a sufficient core of young, cost controlled players ready to "win now."

AFTER the Cardinals have a sufficient core of young, cost controlled players in place, maybe then you can think about paying/overpaying for that last piece or two that you need to "win now."

But it would just be foolish to for them to lock themselves into a deal like Bregman's (who is likely to continue declining in the mid-to-late 30s) now when they aren't ready to compete.

Spending has to be smart and timely if a team like the Cardinals is going to win another WS anytime soon.

Saving BILLIONAIRE owners money is the primary concern. Because competing yearly is too much effort. Meanwhile, teams like the Cubs will probably get their tickets punched and have a chance to win the whole thing. You must be so happy.

[Red7]

Just curious, when the Cubs and Astros went through years of 100 losses during their rebuilds and shedding salary at every turn, were they not trying? Were their fans sheep?

[AZ_Cardsfan]

But that's all right because Bloom and DeWitt are getting that talent pipeline up to speed and int 2 or 10 years they'll be a juggernaut. The difference between spending to win or tanking. Oh excuse me, I meant "rebuilding".

Why do you start dumb threads. And this one is really dumb.

Is Bregman a superstar worth 5/$175 or $35m per year in his ages 32-36? No. Not a great bargain. Betting he isn't close to the star he was aged 28-31. Putting aside that he isn't a great use of money......

STL is in a rebuild. You don't throw money at aging stars on their down slope during a rebuild. And the rebuild is going quite well but seems you are missing or dissing it. When the new Owner/Player contract is signed next year and STL has figured out who is real (and I think they are close) then they can spend money on some veteran talent to make a run. Might still be a year early and might want to stay the course on getting talent at a batter cost basis than Bregman.

Based on current obligations they have a lot of room to spend. Hopefully money better spent than what the Cubs are getting from Bregman.

You are sooooo dumb! St Louis is in a rebuild blah blah blah blah. Not beating this dead horse with you. You obviously feel it's okay for the team to tank so go buy some overpriced merch and beers while ownership sits back and puffs on a big ole stogie and laughs their collective a$$e$ off at you. Enjoy.

Perhaps you missed it. Everyone responding to this thread considers you the idiot. Go ahead and whine because the team won't waste money and won't continue on the losing path of the last 10 years.

[20th Century Boy]

But that's all right because Bloom and DeWitt are getting that talent pipeline up to speed and int 2 or 10 years they'll be a juggernaut. The difference between spending to win or tanking. Oh excuse me, I meant "rebuilding".

Uhm, Bregman is not good.

[CCard]

But that's all right because Bloom and DeWitt are getting that talent pipeline up to speed and int 2 or 10 years they'll be a juggernaut. The difference between spending to win or tanking. Oh excuse me, I meant "rebuilding".

Uhm, Bregman is not good.

Apparently he's better than what we have.

[woofy25]

But that's all right because Bloom and DeWitt are getting that talent pipeline up to speed and int 2 or 10 years they'll be a juggernaut. The difference between spending to win or tanking. Oh excuse me, I meant "rebuilding".

Dumbest post of the season. Ask 100 cubs fans if they’re happy about Bergman’s production for the contract and all 100 would say no effing way.
You probably want Swanson too.
The conclusion from your recent takes, idk, maybe all of your takes, is that you’re a troll. If so, all good. But if you’re actually serious about your points, I hope you know more about other subjects than you do baseball

[CCard]

But that's all right because Bloom and DeWitt are getting that talent pipeline up to speed and int 2 or 10 years they'll be a juggernaut. The difference between spending to win or tanking. Oh excuse me, I meant "rebuilding".

Why do you start dumb threads. And this one is really dumb.

Is Bregman a superstar worth 5/$175 or $35m per year in his ages 32-36? No. Not a great bargain. Betting he isn't close to the star he was aged 28-31. Putting aside that he isn't a great use of money......

STL is in a rebuild. You don't throw money at aging stars on their down slope during a rebuild. And the rebuild is going quite well but seems you are missing or dissing it. When the new Owner/Player contract is signed next year and STL has figured out who is real (and I think they are close) then they can spend money on some veteran talent to make a run. Might still be a year early and might want to stay the course on getting talent at a batter cost basis than Bregman.

Based on current obligations they have a lot of room to spend. Hopefully money better spent than what the Cubs are getting from Bregman.

You are sooooo dumb! St Louis is in a rebuild blah blah blah blah. Not beating this dead horse with you. You obviously feel it's okay for the team to tank so go buy some overpriced merch and beers while ownership sits back and puffs on a big ole stogie and laughs their collective a$$e$ off at you. Enjoy.

Perhaps you missed it. Everyone responding to this thread considers you the idiot. Go ahead and whine because the team won't waste money and won't continue on the losing path of the last 10 years.

Perhaps you missed it. You don't live in reality and you certainly lie. Now, go ahead and whine because some of us fans don't like the prospect of tanking and losing for years so that ownership can save some cash. Go lick DeWitt's boots some more sycophant.

[AZ_Cardsfan]

But that's all right because Bloom and DeWitt are getting that talent pipeline up to speed and int 2 or 10 years they'll be a juggernaut. The difference between spending to win or tanking. Oh excuse me, I meant "rebuilding".

Dumbest post of the season. Ask 100 cubs fans if they’re happy about Bergman’s production for the contract and all 100 would say no effing way.
You probably want Swanson too.
The conclusion from your recent takes, idk, maybe all of your takes, is that you’re a troll. If so, all good. But if you’re actually serious about your points, I hope you know more about other subjects than you do baseball

Become clear now he is just a troll. No one is that stupid. Wonder what his previous names here were.

[Futuregm2]

But that's all right because Bloom and DeWitt are getting that talent pipeline up to speed and int 2 or 10 years they'll be a juggernaut. The difference between spending to win or tanking. Oh excuse me, I meant "rebuilding".

He only looks good against us. He’s hitting over .400 vs us in July and .177 vs everyone else.

[45s]

Just curious, when the Cubs and Astros went through years of 100 losses during their rebuilds and shedding salary at every turn, were they not trying? Were their fans sheep?

CC’s philosophy is what got the Stros in a deep hole in the first place…

The team was very average, maybe a notch below…..and the entire organization was substandard

but….there was a recurring theme,,,,that the owner endorsed…that if they just signed that guy….or that guy…or maybe that guy…(without addressing the organizational issues)…they could compete…

That strategy was a complete failure….and finally with a new owner and Luhnow a fair analysis of the team was made…they blew it up….dumped the big money dead weight….and stopped foolish signings

Cards are on the right path…,,and they are not trying to lose….every player is trying as they want to stay in the bigs.

but their is limited talent…….


It’s a good plan….give it a chance