PCA - to drill or not to drill?

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Re: PCA - to drill or not to drill?

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Cardinals4Life wrote: 30 Jul 2026 14:51 pm
BrockFloodMaris wrote: 30 Jul 2026 13:47 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 30 Jul 2026 13:40 pm
JohnnyMO wrote: 30 Jul 2026 13:16 pm It’s a different mentality in 2026. He’s not getting hit.
Yeah, players don't have that competitive/macho fight.in them any more. The game has definitely gotten soft.
Have you ever watched a baseball game played in the Caribbean or Latin America? Fans bring band instruments into the stadium. All the popular players have their own cheering sections. There are banners all over the stadium. Players hot dog and show off all the time. Its just part of the game. I'm fine with that emotion and fire creeping into the US game.
Yeah this the MLB, guy.
If I want to watch Latin baseball, I'll fly down over the winter to th3 Venezuelan Winter League. :roll: :roll: :roll:
God forbid anyone should show emotion. We can't upset the old fart bag fans. Why on earth would we want to attract any young fans to this game?
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Re: PCA - to drill or not to drill?

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BrockFloodMaris wrote: 30 Jul 2026 15:13 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 30 Jul 2026 14:51 pm
BrockFloodMaris wrote: 30 Jul 2026 13:47 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 30 Jul 2026 13:40 pm
JohnnyMO wrote: 30 Jul 2026 13:16 pm It’s a different mentality in 2026. He’s not getting hit.
Yeah, players don't have that competitive/macho fight.in them any more. The game has definitely gotten soft.
Have you ever watched a baseball game played in the Caribbean or Latin America? Fans bring band instruments into the stadium. All the popular players have their own cheering sections. There are banners all over the stadium. Players hot dog and show off all the time. Its just part of the game. I'm fine with that emotion and fire creeping into the US game.
Yeah this the MLB, guy.
If I want to watch Latin baseball, I'll fly down over the winter to th3 Venezuelan Winter League. :roll: :roll: :roll:
God forbid anyone should show emotion. We can't upset the old fart bag fans. Why on earth would we want to attract any young fans to this game?
I'm a young fan. I don't want to see PCA showing up my team. Bottom line.
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Re: PCA - to drill or not to drill?

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Cardinals4Life wrote: 30 Jul 2026 15:09 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 30 Jul 2026 13:44 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 30 Jul 2026 13:39 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 30 Jul 2026 13:11 pm Oh god. Grow up. A potentially GW HR in extra innings. How dare he show emotion.
Grow up?
How about you get a clue?
Showing emotion completely different than showing up.

Again, he can choose to show whatever emotion he wants. Those emotions should have consequences.
So he dropped his bat on the plate… who cares
Well not quite.
Cardinals should.
I didn’t have a lot of issues with the bat flip. It’s where the game has gone. It was the showing up the birds on his trip around the bases I had issues with. Do your bat flip or whatever, then trot your donkey around the bases and then get back into your dugout and celebrate with your teammates.
PCA goes above and beyond what should tolerated by other teams.
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Re: PCA - to drill or not to drill?

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Cardinals4Life wrote: 30 Jul 2026 12:44 pm That is the question......

After that disrespectful bat flip in the 10th and hos overall arrogant behavior the real question is when, not if. Right?

Let's hear your thoughts.
Outside the fact it wasn't disrespectful and it was kinda cool I see your point. It hides your jealously of a really good player on your team's biggest rival. I guess it shouldn't be brought up that it wouldn't have happened if he was pitched to better.
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Re: PCA - to drill or not to drill?

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Cardinals4Life wrote: 30 Jul 2026 15:16 pm
BrockFloodMaris wrote: 30 Jul 2026 15:13 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 30 Jul 2026 14:51 pm
BrockFloodMaris wrote: 30 Jul 2026 13:47 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 30 Jul 2026 13:40 pm
JohnnyMO wrote: 30 Jul 2026 13:16 pm It’s a different mentality in 2026. He’s not getting hit.
Yeah, players don't have that competitive/macho fight.in them any more. The game has definitely gotten soft.
Have you ever watched a baseball game played in the Caribbean or Latin America? Fans bring band instruments into the stadium. All the popular players have their own cheering sections. There are banners all over the stadium. Players hot dog and show off all the time. Its just part of the game. I'm fine with that emotion and fire creeping into the US game.
Yeah this the MLB, guy.
If I want to watch Latin baseball, I'll fly down over the winter to th3 Venezuelan Winter League. :roll: :roll: :roll:
God forbid anyone should show emotion. We can't upset the old fart bag fans. Why on earth would we want to attract any young fans to this game?
I'm a young fan. I don't want to see PCA showing up my team. Bottom line.
We agree on that one! CUBS SUCK CUBS SUCK CUBS SUCK!
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Cardinals4Life wrote: 30 Jul 2026 13:40 pm
JohnnyMO wrote: 30 Jul 2026 13:16 pm It’s a different mentality in 2026. He’s not getting hit.
Yeah, players don't have that competitive/macho fight.in them any more. The game has definitely gotten soft.
Yep.

Too much money and grab (donkey)'n.
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BrockFloodMaris wrote: 30 Jul 2026 15:13 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 30 Jul 2026 14:51 pm
BrockFloodMaris wrote: 30 Jul 2026 13:47 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 30 Jul 2026 13:40 pm
JohnnyMO wrote: 30 Jul 2026 13:16 pm It’s a different mentality in 2026. He’s not getting hit.
Yeah, players don't have that competitive/macho fight.in them any more. The game has definitely gotten soft.
Have you ever watched a baseball game played in the Caribbean or Latin America? Fans bring band instruments into the stadium. All the popular players have their own cheering sections. There are banners all over the stadium. Players hot dog and show off all the time. Its just part of the game. I'm fine with that emotion and fire creeping into the US game.
Yeah this the MLB, guy.
If I want to watch Latin baseball, I'll fly down over the winter to th3 Venezuelan Winter League. :roll: :roll: :roll:
God forbid anyone should show emotion. We can't upset the old fart bag fans. Why on earth would we want to attract any young fans to this game?
There's a line.

I would hope we'd show our "younger fans" the difference between showing fire and disrespecting your opponent.

If people dont know the difference then they should refrain from commenting on it.
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Re: PCA - to drill or not to drill?

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He didn’t just flip the bat. He did it at our catcher’s feet. Then celebrated around the bases like he’d just won the World Series in a walk-off. Wanna send a message? Drill the next batter up. Give PCA a guilt trip and make a teammate mad at him.
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Re: PCA - to drill or not to drill?

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Cardinals4Life wrote: 30 Jul 2026 12:44 pm That is the question......

After that disrespectful bat flip in the 10th and hos overall arrogant behavior the real question is when, not if. Right?

Let's hear your thoughts.
Please explain why it was disrespectful? Is it any worse than a hog pile at home plate after the winning run scored? Who's celebration was bigger
PCA staring back at HIS dugout?
The entire cardinal team jumping up and down at home plate?

Some of you fans and even something players have to toughen up.
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Cardinals4Life wrote: 30 Jul 2026 15:16 pm
BrockFloodMaris wrote: 30 Jul 2026 15:13 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 30 Jul 2026 14:51 pm
BrockFloodMaris wrote: 30 Jul 2026 13:47 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 30 Jul 2026 13:40 pm
JohnnyMO wrote: 30 Jul 2026 13:16 pm It’s a different mentality in 2026. He’s not getting hit.
Yeah, players don't have that competitive/macho fight.in them any more. The game has definitely gotten soft.
Have you ever watched a baseball game played in the Caribbean or Latin America? Fans bring band instruments into the stadium. All the popular players have their own cheering sections. There are banners all over the stadium. Players hot dog and show off all the time. Its just part of the game. I'm fine with that emotion and fire creeping into the US game.
Yeah this the MLB, guy.
If I want to watch Latin baseball, I'll fly down over the winter to th3 Venezuelan Winter League. :roll: :roll: :roll:
God forbid anyone should show emotion. We can't upset the old fart bag fans. Why on earth would we want to attract any young fans to this game?
I'm a young fan. I don't want to see PCA showing up my team. Bottom line.
Like it or not, everything a team beats the Cardinals, they are showing them up.

Less than a month ago, the Cardinals were up 15 runs, in Chicago they kept the pedal to the floor. Did that also hurt your feelings?

I just am amazed ar how soft some of you are.
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Re: PCA - to drill or not to drill?

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makesnosense wrote: 30 Jul 2026 15:21 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 30 Jul 2026 12:44 pm That is the question......

After that disrespectful bat flip in the 10th and hos overall arrogant behavior the real question is when, not if. Right?

Let's hear your thoughts.
Outside the fact it wasn't disrespectful and it was kinda cool I see your point. It hides your jealously of a really good player on your team's biggest rival. I guess it shouldn't be brought up that it wouldn't have happened if he was pitched to better.
It wasnt disrespectful? Kinda cool?
Either you're a Cubs fan or youre a joke.
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Re: PCA - to drill or not to drill?

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Cardinals4Life wrote: 30 Jul 2026 16:21 pm
makesnosense wrote: 30 Jul 2026 15:21 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 30 Jul 2026 12:44 pm That is the question......

After that disrespectful bat flip in the 10th and hos overall arrogant behavior the real question is when, not if. Right?

Let's hear your thoughts.
Outside the fact it wasn't disrespectful and it was kinda cool I see your point. It hides your jealously of a really good player on your team's biggest rival. I guess it shouldn't be brought up that it wouldn't have happened if he was pitched to better.
It wasnt disrespectful? Kinda cool?
Either you're a Cubs fan or youre a joke.
I'm neither But i'm also not a butt hurt little baby who doesn't get mad at his team for failing to get a guy out but is outraged at the the guy that beats my team and has some fun doing it. But you be you. I'm sure you are ball to hang out with.
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I don't mind fire. But I despise the death of sportsmanship in all sports nowadays.
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Strummer Jones wrote: 30 Jul 2026 16:35 pm I don't mind fire. But I despise the death of sportsmanship in all sports nowadays.
Yes.

Like I said there's a line you shouldn't cross.

I like fire eaters but you can show emotion and not do it at the expense of an opponent.
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tubastarr wrote: 30 Jul 2026 15:37 pm He didn’t just flip the bat. He did it at our catcher’s feet. Then celebrated around the bases like he’d just won the World Series in a walk-off. Wanna send a message? Drill the next batter up. Give PCA a guilt trip and make a teammate mad at him.
Score three runs in the bottom of the inning and make his efforts irrelevant.
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Talkin' Baseball wrote: 30 Jul 2026 14:34 pm I don't give a hoot about the bat flip- but it's never a bad day to drill PCA.
Haha funny take! Didn’t he direct his chest thumping towards his own dugout too? I think it’s disrespectful to taunt the other team’s dugout, but it’s more of a “team celebration” when a player directs his emotions towards his own teammates. Our guys do that a lot.