Who is Bloom trading

[rockondlouie]

Deadline few days away…..who is leaving?

May
Noot
Catcher
Winn in big deal

I'd love to see this!

Swing big and go for B. Woo of the M's!

Then move JJW to SS until one of the many drafted kid SS's is ready.

[cardinalsfever44]

Deadline few days away…..who is leaving?

May
Noot
Catcher
Winn in big deal

I'd love to see this!

Swing big and go for B. Woo of the M's!

Then move JJW to SS until one of the many drafted kid SS's is ready.

I have not liked what I've seen with JJ at short. I think trading Winn would be a huge mistake at this point in time.

[JuanAgosto]

Deadline few days away…..who is leaving?

May
Noot
Catcher
Winn in big deal

I'd love to see this!

Swing big and go for B. Woo of the M's!

Then move JJW to SS until one of the many drafted kid SS's is ready.

I have not liked what I've seen with JJ at short. I think trading Winn would be a huge mistake at this point in time.

I agree. Not opposed to trading Winn if we had a better option at SS. Wetherholt isn't the answer.

[Futuregm2]

Deadline few days away…..who is leaving?

May
Noot
Catcher
Winn in big deal

I'd love to see this!

Swing big and go for B. Woo of the M's!

Then move JJW to SS until one of the many drafted kid SS's is ready.

Seattle is probably one of the last destinations for Winn. They already have Colt Emerson, Cole Young, and J.P. Crawford for up the middle.

[greyhawk]

I’m not advocating for trading anyone except the expected. However, bloom has no real connections to anyone. If someone comes in with a good offer for Burly or Winn I could see him doing it. Walker and JJW are the only real likely untouchables. That said, I expect May, Romero and Stanek to go. Think they’ll hold onto ROB and Noot

agree completely with this -- he has no mandate to offload money this year so he will only do something if he believes it improves the team.

[82birds]

The consensus these days being all is known about players/prospects……utilize the BTV…..trades are fair swap of talent.
The elite and winning POBO’s should be better than that. They should have insight, intuition, feel to trade their capped out talent and return gems that the other team couldn’t see.
Example…..Mo trading Sandy to Marlins. A big win for the Marlins GM. Stole a Cy Young

Johnny bow ties was far from elite. That putz was a reactionary fly by the seat of his pants fool.

Agreed….lets hope Bloom is anti-MO

+ 10,000

[cardinalsfever44]

Deadline few days away…..who is leaving?

May
Noot
Catcher
Winn in big deal

I'd love to see this!

Swing big and go for B. Woo of the M's!

Then move JJW to SS until one of the many drafted kid SS's is ready.

I have not liked what I've seen with JJ at short. I think trading Winn would be a huge mistake at this point in time.

I agree. Not opposed to trading Winn if we had a better option at SS. Wetherholt isn't the answer.

Yeah, not opposed to trading Winn for the right price, it's just that JJ hasn't looked good to me at SS. He has bounced routine throws and seems to have limited range for the position, especially in comparison to Winn.

Winn would be perfectly fine as an all glove, light bat SS if we can fill in the lineup around him with some better bats. I'm keeping him unless some team wants to blow us away with an offer.

[scoutyjones2]

Deadline few days away…..who is leaving?

May
Noot
Catcher
Winn in big deal

I'd love to see this!

Swing big and go for B. Woo of the M's!

Then move JJW to SS until one of the many drafted kid SS's is ready.

I have not liked what I've seen with JJ at short. I think trading Winn would be a huge mistake at this point in time.

I agree. Not opposed to trading Winn if we had a better option at SS. Wetherholt isn't the answer.

Yeah, not opposed to trading Winn for the right price, it's just that JJ hasn't looked good to me at SS. He has bounced routine throws and seems to have limited range for the position, especially in comparison to Winn.

Winn would be perfectly fine as an all glove, light bat SS if we can fill in the lineup around him with some better bats. I'm keeping him unless some team wants to blow us away with an offer.

3 games he played SS for the Cards. Mostly played SS in the minors and 3b in college. I am willing to be he'd be good at any of these positions

[rockondlouie]

Deadline few days away…..who is leaving?

May
Noot
Catcher
Winn in big deal

I'd love to see this!

Swing big and go for B. Woo of the M's!

Then move JJW to SS until one of the many drafted kid SS's is ready.

Seattle is probably one of the last destinations for Winn. They already have Colt Emerson, Cole Young, and J.P. Crawford for up the middle.

Actually the M's would likely be one of the top destinations.

Crawford isn't the answer given his problems in the field, he's a defensive liability.

Emerson struggled big time when recalled and could be a position change candidate

Cole is a 2nd baseman

Given their great starting pitching an elite glove like Winn's at SS would be ideal for the M's.

Perfect trade partner if C. Bloom swings big and offers them Winn.

[rockondlouie]

Deadline few days away…..who is leaving?

May
Noot
Catcher
Winn in big deal

I'd love to see this!

Swing big and go for B. Woo of the M's!

Then move JJW to SS until one of the many drafted kid SS's is ready.

I have not liked what I've seen with JJ at short. I think trading Winn would be a huge mistake at this point in time.

Respect your opinion cf44

I've watched JJW there too

I think he'd be a "+" defender, no where near Winn level, but the offensive upgrade would be dramatic.

2nd base is also an easier position to find his replacement.

[cardinalsfever44]

Deadline few days away…..who is leaving?

May
Noot
Catcher
Winn in big deal

I'd love to see this!

Swing big and go for B. Woo of the M's!

Then move JJW to SS until one of the many drafted kid SS's is ready.

I have not liked what I've seen with JJ at short. I think trading Winn would be a huge mistake at this point in time.

Respect your opinion cf44

I've watched JJW there too

I think he'd be a "+" defender, no where near Winn level, but the offensive upgrade would be dramatic.

2nd base is also an easier position to find his replacement.

That is a good point. Lots of directions this team can go and it'll be exciting to see what Bloom decides to do in the next few days.

[Futuregm2]

Deadline few days away…..who is leaving?

May
Noot
Catcher
Winn in big deal

I'd love to see this!

Swing big and go for B. Woo of the M's!

Then move JJW to SS until one of the many drafted kid SS's is ready.

Seattle is probably one of the last destinations for Winn. They already have Colt Emerson, Cole Young, and J.P. Crawford for up the middle.

Actually the M's would likely be one of the top destinations.

Crawford isn't the answer given his problems in the field, he's a defensive liability.

Emerson struggled big time when recalled and could be a position change candidate

Cole is a 2nd baseman

Given their great starting pitching an elite glove like Winn's at SS would be ideal for the M's.

Perfect trade partner if C. Bloom swings big and offers them Winn.

Emerson’s OPS/OPS+ is equal to Winn’s…He’s a 21 year old rookie who was a top 10 prospect in baseball. They aren’t going to give up on him because of 193 PAs.

Cole was moved to 2B because of Crawford/Emerson.

I think Ivan Herrera is a better fit for Seattle than Winn. But I also wouldn’t mind a Herrera to NYY for Ryan Weathers type of deal. Or to Baltimore in a package for Gunnar Henderson. But the latter is probably a pipe dream, even though he’s struggled a bit this year.

[11WSChamps]

Deadline few days away…..who is leaving?

May
Noot
Catcher
Winn in big deal

I'd love to see this!

Swing big and go for B. Woo of the M's!

Then move JJW to SS until one of the many drafted kid SS's is ready.

I have not liked what I've seen with JJ at short. I think trading Winn would be a huge mistake at this point in time.

Correct.

He has no business playing SS now or in the future.

[rockondlouie]

Deadline few days away…..who is leaving?

May
Noot
Catcher
Winn in big deal

I'd love to see this!

Swing big and go for B. Woo of the M's!

Then move JJW to SS until one of the many drafted kid SS's is ready.

Seattle is probably one of the last destinations for Winn. They already have Colt Emerson, Cole Young, and J.P. Crawford for up the middle.

Actually the M's would likely be one of the top destinations.

Crawford isn't the answer given his problems in the field, he's a defensive liability.

Emerson struggled big time when recalled and could be a position change candidate

Cole is a 2nd baseman

Given their great starting pitching an elite glove like Winn's at SS would be ideal for the M's.

Perfect trade partner if C. Bloom swings big and offers them Winn.

Emerson’s OPS/OPS+ is equal to Winn’s…He’s a 21 year old rookie who was a top 10 prospect in baseball. They aren’t going to give up on him because of 193 PAs.

Cole was moved to 2B because of Crawford/Emerson.

I think Ivan Herrera is a better fit for Seattle than Winn. But I also wouldn’t mind a Herrera to NYY for Ryan Weathers type of deal. Or to Baltimore in a package for Gunnar Henderson. But the latter is probably a pipe dream, even though he’s struggled a bit this year.

Certainly not claiming the M's are "giving up" on Emerson............but a Gold Glove SS like Winn fits their teams need better and Emerson could be a position change.

Crawford is a defensive liability, not even a consideration in this discussion vs Winn and Cole is a 2nd baseman.

I don't like the idea of dealing I. Herrera.

Other than a half season of Albert and when Goldy/NADO were used at DH for a game the Cardinals have struggled finding a quality DH since it came to the NL.

Herrera is an all star DH, capable of being a 120 wRC+ hitter......I'm not trading him (unless we could get your dream guy Gunnar or a quality starter like Woo)!

[JuanAgosto]

Deadline few days away…..who is leaving?

May
Noot
Catcher
Winn in big deal

I'd love to see this!

Swing big and go for B. Woo of the M's!

Then move JJW to SS until one of the many drafted kid SS's is ready.

I have not liked what I've seen with JJ at short. I think trading Winn would be a huge mistake at this point in time.

Respect your opinion cf44

I've watched JJW there too

I think he'd be a "+" defender, no where near Winn level, but the offensive upgrade would be dramatic.

2nd base is also an easier position to find his replacement.

No way he would be a + defender at SS. His arm alone is a major downgrade. Don't fall into the group that only looks at offense.

[rockondlouie]

Deadline few days away…..who is leaving?

May
Noot
Catcher
Winn in big deal

I'd love to see this!

Swing big and go for B. Woo of the M's!

Then move JJW to SS until one of the many drafted kid SS's is ready.

I have not liked what I've seen with JJ at short. I think trading Winn would be a huge mistake at this point in time.

Respect your opinion cf44

I've watched JJW there too

I think he'd be a "+" defender, no where near Winn level, but the offensive upgrade would be dramatic.

2nd base is also an easier position to find his replacement.

No way he would be a + defender at SS. His arm alone is a major downgrade. Don't fall into the group that only looks at offense.

No issue there Juan, I think I understand the situation.

Funny, I had some disagreement w/some guys in here this past winter when I posted the glove work I saw on some videos from JJW told me he'd be a "+" defender at 2nd base. Now he's the best in MLB.

You're use to Winn's arm, not many have ever had that type of hose.

JJW could handle SS and IMO would be a "+" defender there too though not as good as he is at 2nd base.