GDT : Cardinals vs Reds (7/25) ~ 6:15pm CDT

[RamFan08NY]

How does it make sense to place the hitter who was tops in the NL in RBIs at the All-Star Break to 2nd in the lineup? Obviously, it isn't working and this team is not scoring runs.

2nd spot gives your best hitter more at bats. This is his third game batting 2nd all season

More ABs but with fewer men on base. Thats why JJW only has 30 some rbi.

[cosmo.kramer]

So very little change to a lineup that mustered all of two piddly hits last night. OLI BALL !!!!!!

What would you change?

I would give the lefty-righty strategy a break. And I would not be putting a fatigued looking Herrera behind the plate. If it is a rebuild season, play the young catcher. After all, he had one of your two hits last night. And i just do not understand the infatuation with putting your most dangerous bat second. That guy should be third or cleanup. I would go:

Wetherholt
Nootbaar
Walker
Burleson
Jordan
Herrera
Winn
Crooks
Church

Noot
JJ
Walker
Burly
Herrera
Jordan
Crooks
Winn
Church

Nootbaar started well in June, but his July has been rough (.172/.273/.259/.531)

Just about the whole team is slumping in July in
Told it’s because walker was in the derby

Yeah even JJ over the last month is .221/.302/.327/.629

[82birds]

So very little change to a lineup that mustered all of two piddly hits last night. OLI BALL !!!!!!

What would you change?

Id put Walker back where he lead the majors in RBI and put the OB % guy back at 2nd.

makes sense to me 08NY

[cosmo.kramer]

How does it make sense to place the hitter who was tops in the NL in RBIs at the All-Star Break to 2nd in the lineup? Obviously, it isn't working and this team is not scoring runs.

2nd spot gives your best hitter more at bats. This is his third game batting 2nd all season

As it potentially gives a hitter more at bats which, most likely is one more, it also potentially gives a hitter fewer RBI chances.

And that hitter's extra at bats over the course of a season lead to more RBI chances for the team as a whole

[JuanAgosto]

So very little change to a lineup that mustered all of two piddly hits last night. OLI BALL !!!!!!

What would you change?

I would give the lefty-righty strategy a break. And I would not be putting a fatigued looking Herrera behind the plate. If it is a rebuild season, play the young catcher. After all, he had one of your two hits last night. And i just do not understand the infatuation with putting your most dangerous bat second. That guy should be third or cleanup. I would go:

Wetherholt
Nootbaar
Walker
Burleson
Jordan
Herrera
Winn
Crooks
Church

Noot
JJ
Walker
Burly
Herrera
Jordan
Crooks
Winn
Church

I like your lineup better than mine. Very nice.

[cosmo.kramer]

So very little change to a lineup that mustered all of two piddly hits last night. OLI BALL !!!!!!

What would you change?

Id put Walker back where he lead the majors in RBI and put the OB % guy back at 2nd.

makes sense to me 08NY

Walker leads the team in OBP in July at .375

Herrera OBP in July is .247

[cosmo.kramer]

If it is a discovery year Crooks should be starting catcher in nearly every game vs. Right-handed pitching for the coming weeks. Herrera can catch against lefties. Crooks needs to have a stretch of playing and see if he can figure something out. There is no need to have him sitting around as much as he does if he is going to ge here. I usually defend Ollie and don't jump his every move but the last thing Herrera needs to he doing is catching a lot of games.

Herrera last caught a game four days ago. This will only be his 3rd game at catcher in 9 games since the break

Crooks has started at catcher three straight games before the off day today (and 5 of 9 since the break)

A ~1/3 Herrera ~2/3 Crooks catching split seems fairly reasonable

[cardinalsfever44]

If it is a discovery year Crooks should be starting catcher in nearly every game vs. Right-handed pitching for the coming weeks. Herrera can catch against lefties. Crooks needs to have a stretch of playing and see if he can figure something out. There is no need to have him sitting around as much as he does if he is going to ge here. I usually defend Ollie and don't jump his every move but the last thing Herrera needs to he doing is catching a lot of games.

Herrera last caught a game four days ago. This will only be his 3rd game at catcher in 9 games since the break

Crooks has started at catcher three straight games before the off day today (and 5 of 9 since the break)

A ~1/3 Herrera ~2/3 Crooks catching split seems fairly reasonable

I do agree with this; however, currently Pages also takes up a start or two in there. Now that the season has fallen off a cliff, I'd be fine with Crooks getting 75% of the starts for a couple months to see if he can show anything. I have my doubts, but he deserves the chance.

[cosmo.kramer]

If it is a discovery year Crooks should be starting catcher in nearly every game vs. Right-handed pitching for the coming weeks. Herrera can catch against lefties. Crooks needs to have a stretch of playing and see if he can figure something out. There is no need to have him sitting around as much as he does if he is going to ge here. I usually defend Ollie and don't jump his every move but the last thing Herrera needs to he doing is catching a lot of games.

Herrera last caught a game four days ago. This will only be his 3rd game at catcher in 9 games since the break

Crooks has started at catcher three straight games before the off day today (and 5 of 9 since the break)

A ~1/3 Herrera ~2/3 Crooks catching split seems fairly reasonable

I do agree with this; however, currently Pages also takes up a start or two in there. Now that the season has fallen off a cliff, I'd be fine with Crooks getting 75% of the starts for a couple months to see if he can show anything. I have my doubts, but he deserves the chance.

I think that's what we see after the trade deadline

[RamFan08NY]

So very little change to a lineup that mustered all of two piddly hits last night. OLI BALL !!!!!!

What would you change?

Id put Walker back where he lead the majors in RBI and put the OB % guy back at 2nd.

makes sense to me 08NY

Walker leads the team in OBP in July at .375

Herrera OBP in July is .247

Hence all the RBI fir JW.. Now hes hitting behind Church, Crooks, and JJ instead of hitting behind JJ, Ivan, and Burly.. still doesn't make sense to me.

[Voldemort]

How does it make sense to place the hitter who was tops in the NL in RBIs at the All-Star Break to 2nd in the lineup? Obviously, it isn't working and this team is not scoring runs.

2nd spot gives your best hitter more at bats. This is his third game batting 2nd all season

As it potentially gives a hitter more at bats which, most likely is one more, it also potentially gives a hitter fewer RBI chances.

And that hitter's extra at bats over the course of a season lead to more RBI chances for the team as a whole

Is there some source I could read that stat in? I believe that both the 3rd and 4th places in the order offer more opportunities than one more "probable" at bat.

[RamFan08NY]

How does it make sense to place the hitter who was tops in the NL in RBIs at the All-Star Break to 2nd in the lineup? Obviously, it isn't working and this team is not scoring runs.

2nd spot gives your best hitter more at bats. This is his third game batting 2nd all season

As it potentially gives a hitter more at bats which, most likely is one more, it also potentially gives a hitter fewer RBI chances.

And that hitter's extra at bats over the course of a season lead to more RBI chances for the team as a whole

Is there some source I could read that stat in? I believe that both the 3rd and 4th places in the order offer more opportunities than one more "probable" at bat.

Its a wonder why they never batted Pujols leadoff .....to get him 28 extra ABs throughout the season.

[82birds]

superb first inning Andre

[cbcardsfan]

Good thing Hayes made a bad throw. Very aggressive. Jump start the offense

[82birds]

attaway Burly
70th RBI

[12xu]

How does it make sense to place the hitter who was tops in the NL in RBIs at the All-Star Break to 2nd in the lineup? Obviously, it isn't working and this team is not scoring runs.

2nd spot gives your best hitter more at bats. This is his third game batting 2nd all season

More ABs but with fewer men on base. Thats why JJW only has 30 some rbi.

JJ has 40 RBI