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Re: Ducks match the offer sheet. Carlsson stays.

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Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:39 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:32 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:23 pm
UMR-alum-05 wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:18 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:14 pm Snuggerud going to cost $15 mil per a year from now.
He would have to put up 90 this year for that.

Come on man.

I'm not saying that isn't possible. But to just say that like it's fact is not quite realistic.
He can pop in 25-30 goals and simply wait for an offer sheet. Maybe we get lucky and get him for $12-13 mil but if you are Snuggerud why wouldn’t you just wait and see. It’s the Wild Wild West out there right now. Our $8 mil per year player is over in St. Louis
Why gamble if you can have guaranteed money?

Sure the possibility is there for a larger pay day, but what if it isn't there? What if his wrist snaps again? Has a sophomore slump?

If the blues go to him with a good respectable offer for a good length such as say 80/8 that's 80 freaking million dollars. Would you say no and take your chances that a team might throw an insane offer at you and that some 4th line goon doesn't elbow smash your face into the glass and you miss 40 games from a concussion?

Way too many variables out of their control when the one variable they can control, guaranteed money and a lot of it, is right there.
We shall see…I’ll be shocked if we get him signed for less than $12 mil per year. I believe he’s going to be the highest paid Blue in history a year from now.
Cooley signed for $10m and is a much better player. I would guess something around 5 or 6 years at $8.0-8.5 AAV.
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Re: Ducks match the offer sheet. Carlsson stays.

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TruBlueFan_1970 wrote: 09 Jul 2026 16:36 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:39 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:32 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:23 pm
UMR-alum-05 wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:18 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:14 pm Snuggerud going to cost $15 mil per a year from now.
He would have to put up 90 this year for that.

Come on man.

I'm not saying that isn't possible. But to just say that like it's fact is not quite realistic.
He can pop in 25-30 goals and simply wait for an offer sheet. Maybe we get lucky and get him for $12-13 mil but if you are Snuggerud why wouldn’t you just wait and see. It’s the Wild Wild West out there right now. Our $8 mil per year player is over in St. Louis
Why gamble if you can have guaranteed money?

Sure the possibility is there for a larger pay day, but what if it isn't there? What if his wrist snaps again? Has a sophomore slump?

If the blues go to him with a good respectable offer for a good length such as say 80/8 that's 80 freaking million dollars. Would you say no and take your chances that a team might throw an insane offer at you and that some 4th line goon doesn't elbow smash your face into the glass and you miss 40 games from a concussion?

Way too many variables out of their control when the one variable they can control, guaranteed money and a lot of it, is right there.
We shall see…I’ll be shocked if we get him signed for less than $12 mil per year. I believe he’s going to be the highest paid Blue in history a year from now.
Cooley signed for $10m and is a much better player. I would guess something around 5 or 6 years at $8.0-8.5 AAV.
When did Cooley sign, and what was the going rate for a 30 goal winger at that time - because its quite likely that's what Snuggerud will be. All other things equal, a 10M price last year is easily 12M next year, at this rate.
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Re: Ducks match the offer sheet. Carlsson stays.

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Army's Mom wrote: 09 Jul 2026 17:10 pm
TruBlueFan_1970 wrote: 09 Jul 2026 16:36 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:39 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:32 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:23 pm
UMR-alum-05 wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:18 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:14 pm Snuggerud going to cost $15 mil per a year from now.
He would have to put up 90 this year for that.

Come on man.

I'm not saying that isn't possible. But to just say that like it's fact is not quite realistic.
He can pop in 25-30 goals and simply wait for an offer sheet. Maybe we get lucky and get him for $12-13 mil but if you are Snuggerud why wouldn’t you just wait and see. It’s the Wild Wild West out there right now. Our $8 mil per year player is over in St. Louis
Why gamble if you can have guaranteed money?

Sure the possibility is there for a larger pay day, but what if it isn't there? What if his wrist snaps again? Has a sophomore slump?

If the blues go to him with a good respectable offer for a good length such as say 80/8 that's 80 freaking million dollars. Would you say no and take your chances that a team might throw an insane offer at you and that some 4th line goon doesn't elbow smash your face into the glass and you miss 40 games from a concussion?

Way too many variables out of their control when the one variable they can control, guaranteed money and a lot of it, is right there.
We shall see…I’ll be shocked if we get him signed for less than $12 mil per year. I believe he’s going to be the highest paid Blue in history a year from now.
Cooley signed for $10m and is a much better player. I would guess something around 5 or 6 years at $8.0-8.5 AAV.
When did Cooley sign, and what was the going rate for a 30 goal winger at that time - because its quite likely that's what Snuggerud will be. All other things equal, a 10M price last year is easily 12M next year, at this rate.
He just signed at the end of last October. This upcoming season will be the 1st of his 8 year deal. So, not that long ago. I guess we’ll have to wait on Snuggs, but I don’t see a $12m deal, that’s for sure.
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Re: Ducks match the offer sheet. Carlsson stays.

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Army's Mom wrote: 09 Jul 2026 17:10 pm
TruBlueFan_1970 wrote: 09 Jul 2026 16:36 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:39 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:32 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:23 pm
UMR-alum-05 wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:18 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:14 pm Snuggerud going to cost $15 mil per a year from now.
He would have to put up 90 this year for that.

Come on man.

I'm not saying that isn't possible. But to just say that like it's fact is not quite realistic.
He can pop in 25-30 goals and simply wait for an offer sheet. Maybe we get lucky and get him for $12-13 mil but if you are Snuggerud why wouldn’t you just wait and see. It’s the Wild Wild West out there right now. Our $8 mil per year player is over in St. Louis
Why gamble if you can have guaranteed money?

Sure the possibility is there for a larger pay day, but what if it isn't there? What if his wrist snaps again? Has a sophomore slump?

If the blues go to him with a good respectable offer for a good length such as say 80/8 that's 80 freaking million dollars. Would you say no and take your chances that a team might throw an insane offer at you and that some 4th line goon doesn't elbow smash your face into the glass and you miss 40 games from a concussion?

Way too many variables out of their control when the one variable they can control, guaranteed money and a lot of it, is right there.
We shall see…I’ll be shocked if we get him signed for less than $12 mil per year. I believe he’s going to be the highest paid Blue in history a year from now.
Cooley signed for $10m and is a much better player. I would guess something around 5 or 6 years at $8.0-8.5 AAV.
When did Cooley sign, and what was the going rate for a 30 goal winger at that time - because its quite likely that's what Snuggerud will be. All other things equal, a 10M price last year is easily 12M next year, at this rate.
Actually 10 million last year is equal to 11 million this year.
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Re: Ducks match the offer sheet. Carlsson stays.

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TruBlueFan_1970 wrote: 09 Jul 2026 17:24 pm
Army's Mom wrote: 09 Jul 2026 17:10 pm
TruBlueFan_1970 wrote: 09 Jul 2026 16:36 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:39 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:32 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:23 pm
UMR-alum-05 wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:18 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:14 pm Snuggerud going to cost $15 mil per a year from now.
He would have to put up 90 this year for that.

Come on man.

I'm not saying that isn't possible. But to just say that like it's fact is not quite realistic.
He can pop in 25-30 goals and simply wait for an offer sheet. Maybe we get lucky and get him for $12-13 mil but if you are Snuggerud why wouldn’t you just wait and see. It’s the Wild Wild West out there right now. Our $8 mil per year player is over in St. Louis
Why gamble if you can have guaranteed money?

Sure the possibility is there for a larger pay day, but what if it isn't there? What if his wrist snaps again? Has a sophomore slump?

If the blues go to him with a good respectable offer for a good length such as say 80/8 that's 80 freaking million dollars. Would you say no and take your chances that a team might throw an insane offer at you and that some 4th line goon doesn't elbow smash your face into the glass and you miss 40 games from a concussion?

Way too many variables out of their control when the one variable they can control, guaranteed money and a lot of it, is right there.
We shall see…I’ll be shocked if we get him signed for less than $12 mil per year. I believe he’s going to be the highest paid Blue in history a year from now.
Cooley signed for $10m and is a much better player. I would guess something around 5 or 6 years at $8.0-8.5 AAV.
When did Cooley sign, and what was the going rate for a 30 goal winger at that time - because its quite likely that's what Snuggerud will be. All other things equal, a 10M price last year is easily 12M next year, at this rate.
He just signed at the end of last October. This upcoming season will be the 1st of his 8 year deal. So, not that long ago. I guess we’ll have to wait on Snuggs, but I don’t see a $12m deal, that’s for sure.
Cap was flat last October. Cooley is also better than Tuch and he just signed for 10.5. I’d rather have Snuggerud than Byram and he just signed for 12.5. Snuggy is gonna get paid if produces like a top line winger.
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Re: Ducks match the offer sheet. Carlsson stays.

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Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:39 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:32 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:23 pm
UMR-alum-05 wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:18 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:14 pm Snuggerud going to cost $15 mil per a year from now.
He would have to put up 90 this year for that.

Come on man.

I'm not saying that isn't possible. But to just say that like it's fact is not quite realistic.
He can pop in 25-30 goals and simply wait for an offer sheet. Maybe we get lucky and get him for $12-13 mil but if you are Snuggerud why wouldn’t you just wait and see. It’s the Wild Wild West out there right now. Our $8 mil per year player is over in St. Louis
Why gamble if you can have guaranteed money?

Sure the possibility is there for a larger pay day, but what if it isn't there? What if his wrist snaps again? Has a sophomore slump?

If the blues go to him with a good respectable offer for a good length such as say 80/8 that's 80 freaking million dollars. Would you say no and take your chances that a team might throw an insane offer at you and that some 4th line goon doesn't elbow smash your face into the glass and you miss 40 games from a concussion?

Way too many variables out of their control when the one variable they can control, guaranteed money and a lot of it, is right there.
We shall see…I’ll be shocked if we get him signed for less than $12 mil per year. I believe he’s going to be the highest paid Blue in history a year from now.
How presumptuous! Until JS scores 30, that's one heck of a claim.
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Re: Ducks match the offer sheet. Carlsson stays.

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The Average Gatsby wrote: 09 Jul 2026 17:53 pm
TruBlueFan_1970 wrote: 09 Jul 2026 17:24 pm
Army's Mom wrote: 09 Jul 2026 17:10 pm
TruBlueFan_1970 wrote: 09 Jul 2026 16:36 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:39 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:32 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:23 pm
UMR-alum-05 wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:18 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:14 pm Snuggerud going to cost $15 mil per a year from now.
He would have to put up 90 this year for that.

Come on man.

I'm not saying that isn't possible. But to just say that like it's fact is not quite realistic.
He can pop in 25-30 goals and simply wait for an offer sheet. Maybe we get lucky and get him for $12-13 mil but if you are Snuggerud why wouldn’t you just wait and see. It’s the Wild Wild West out there right now. Our $8 mil per year player is over in St. Louis
Why gamble if you can have guaranteed money?

Sure the possibility is there for a larger pay day, but what if it isn't there? What if his wrist snaps again? Has a sophomore slump?

If the blues go to him with a good respectable offer for a good length such as say 80/8 that's 80 freaking million dollars. Would you say no and take your chances that a team might throw an insane offer at you and that some 4th line goon doesn't elbow smash your face into the glass and you miss 40 games from a concussion?

Way too many variables out of their control when the one variable they can control, guaranteed money and a lot of it, is right there.
We shall see…I’ll be shocked if we get him signed for less than $12 mil per year. I believe he’s going to be the highest paid Blue in history a year from now.
Cooley signed for $10m and is a much better player. I would guess something around 5 or 6 years at $8.0-8.5 AAV.
When did Cooley sign, and what was the going rate for a 30 goal winger at that time - because its quite likely that's what Snuggerud will be. All other things equal, a 10M price last year is easily 12M next year, at this rate.
He just signed at the end of last October. This upcoming season will be the 1st of his 8 year deal. So, not that long ago. I guess we’ll have to wait on Snuggs, but I don’t see a $12m deal, that’s for sure.
Cap was flat last October. Cooley is also better than Tuch and he just signed for 10.5. I’d rather have Snuggerud than Byram and he just signed for 12.5. Snuggy is gonna get paid if produces like a top line winger.
Tuch was UFA
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Predicting these big stat and dollar numbers flat out for the kid should be done if we see he's on the way to such numbers.

If one year of 60 points gets you 12-15M for a basic rookie Katy bar the door.

Unfortunately I do believe it's going to take a number of years for the teams in this league to learn how to negotiate with the rising cap.

More Philly nonsense from others and it's going to get all screwed up for sure.
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Leo with a pisssss poor job making amends:

"It was an offer that 99% of people would sign too. It's a pretty simple answer. I really wanted to be here though. I really wanted them to match. I want to be an Anaheim Duck."
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dhsux wrote: 09 Jul 2026 18:16 pm Leo with a pisssss poor job making amends:

"It was an offer that 99% of people would sign too. It's a pretty simple answer. I really wanted to be here though. I really wanted them to match. I want to be an Anaheim Duck."
There’s nothing to make amends for. He was offered a great contract and signed it. I’d bet most of his teammates are happy for him. If anyone screwed this situation up it was Verbeek. He played hardball with Drysdale and McTavish when their ELC’s were up and got away with it. This time it bit him in the (donkey).
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The Average Gatsby wrote: 09 Jul 2026 19:19 pm
dhsux wrote: 09 Jul 2026 18:16 pm Leo with a pisssss poor job making amends:

"It was an offer that 99% of people would sign too. It's a pretty simple answer. I really wanted to be here though. I really wanted them to match. I want to be an Anaheim Duck."
There’s nothing to make amends for. He was offered a great contract and signed it. I’d bet most of his teammates are happy for him. If anyone screwed this situation up it was Verbeek. He played hardball with Drysdale and McTavish when their ELC’s were up and got away with it. This time it bit him in the (donkey).
I really doubt his teammates are happy about being a worse team so he can make A ridiculous amount of money.
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skilles wrote: 09 Jul 2026 19:22 pm
The Average Gatsby wrote: 09 Jul 2026 19:19 pm
dhsux wrote: 09 Jul 2026 18:16 pm Leo with a pisssss poor job making amends:

"It was an offer that 99% of people would sign too. It's a pretty simple answer. I really wanted to be here though. I really wanted them to match. I want to be an Anaheim Duck."
There’s nothing to make amends for. He was offered a great contract and signed it. I’d bet most of his teammates are happy for him. If anyone screwed this situation up it was Verbeek. He played hardball with Drysdale and McTavish when their ELC’s were up and got away with it. This time it bit him in the (donkey).
I really doubt his teammates are happy about being a worse team so he can make A ridiculous amount of money.
You’re wrong. Teammates are usually friends and they’re typically happy for each other when they get paid.
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Re: Ducks match the offer sheet. Carlsson stays.

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The Average Gatsby wrote: 09 Jul 2026 19:25 pm
skilles wrote: 09 Jul 2026 19:22 pm
The Average Gatsby wrote: 09 Jul 2026 19:19 pm
dhsux wrote: 09 Jul 2026 18:16 pm Leo with a pisssss poor job making amends:

"It was an offer that 99% of people would sign too. It's a pretty simple answer. I really wanted to be here though. I really wanted them to match. I want to be an Anaheim Duck."
There’s nothing to make amends for. He was offered a great contract and signed it. I’d bet most of his teammates are happy for him. If anyone screwed this situation up it was Verbeek. He played hardball with Drysdale and McTavish when their ELC’s were up and got away with it. This time it bit him in the (donkey).
I really doubt his teammates are happy about being a worse team so he can make A ridiculous amount of money.
You’re wrong. Teammates are usually friends and they’re typically happy for each other when they get paid.
lol ok
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Re: Ducks match the offer sheet. Carlsson stays.

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skilles wrote: 09 Jul 2026 18:00 pm
The Average Gatsby wrote: 09 Jul 2026 17:53 pm
TruBlueFan_1970 wrote: 09 Jul 2026 17:24 pm
Army's Mom wrote: 09 Jul 2026 17:10 pm
TruBlueFan_1970 wrote: 09 Jul 2026 16:36 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:39 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:32 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:23 pm
UMR-alum-05 wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:18 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:14 pm Snuggerud going to cost $15 mil per a year from now.
He would have to put up 90 this year for that.

Come on man.

I'm not saying that isn't possible. But to just say that like it's fact is not quite realistic.
He can pop in 25-30 goals and simply wait for an offer sheet. Maybe we get lucky and get him for $12-13 mil but if you are Snuggerud why wouldn’t you just wait and see. It’s the Wild Wild West out there right now. Our $8 mil per year player is over in St. Louis
Why gamble if you can have guaranteed money?

Sure the possibility is there for a larger pay day, but what if it isn't there? What if his wrist snaps again? Has a sophomore slump?

If the blues go to him with a good respectable offer for a good length such as say 80/8 that's 80 freaking million dollars. Would you say no and take your chances that a team might throw an insane offer at you and that some 4th line goon doesn't elbow smash your face into the glass and you miss 40 games from a concussion?

Way too many variables out of their control when the one variable they can control, guaranteed money and a lot of it, is right there.
We shall see…I’ll be shocked if we get him signed for less than $12 mil per year. I believe he’s going to be the highest paid Blue in history a year from now.
Cooley signed for $10m and is a much better player. I would guess something around 5 or 6 years at $8.0-8.5 AAV.
When did Cooley sign, and what was the going rate for a 30 goal winger at that time - because its quite likely that's what Snuggerud will be. All other things equal, a 10M price last year is easily 12M next year, at this rate.
He just signed at the end of last October. This upcoming season will be the 1st of his 8 year deal. So, not that long ago. I guess we’ll have to wait on Snuggs, but I don’t see a $12m deal, that’s for sure.
Cap was flat last October. Cooley is also better than Tuch and he just signed for 10.5. I’d rather have Snuggerud than Byram and he just signed for 12.5. Snuggy is gonna get paid if produces like a top line winger.
Tuch was UFA
And cap was not flat. They had already announced it would be $104m this season and $113m next season.
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dhsux wrote: 09 Jul 2026 18:16 pm Leo with a pisssss poor job making amends:

"It was an offer that 99% of people would sign too. It's a pretty simple answer. I really wanted to be here though. I really wanted them to match. I want to be an Anaheim Duck."
Ala Brady Tkachuck saying he was "committed" to Sens and "tired of talking about it", just before agreeing to trade.
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skilles wrote: 09 Jul 2026 19:22 pm
The Average Gatsby wrote: 09 Jul 2026 19:19 pm
dhsux wrote: 09 Jul 2026 18:16 pm Leo with a pisssss poor job making amends:

"It was an offer that 99% of people would sign too. It's a pretty simple answer. I really wanted to be here though. I really wanted them to match. I want to be an Anaheim Duck."
There’s nothing to make amends for. He was offered a great contract and signed it. I’d bet most of his teammates are happy for him. If anyone screwed this situation up it was Verbeek. He played hardball with Drysdale and McTavish when their ELC’s were up and got away with it. This time it bit him in the (donkey).
I really doubt his teammates are happy about being a worse team so he can make A ridiculous amount of money.
Some may look at it as an opportunity. You never know.