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Re: Ducks match the offer sheet. Carlsson stays.

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This is not the first time this has happened and no last time it happened it still didn't become the norm.
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Re: Ducks match the offer sheet. Carlsson stays.

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Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:23 pm
UMR-alum-05 wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:18 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:14 pm Snuggerud going to cost $15 mil per a year from now.
He would have to put up 90 this year for that.

Come on man.

I'm not saying that isn't possible. But to just say that like it's fact is not quite realistic.
He can pop in 25-30 goals and simply wait for an offer sheet. Maybe we get lucky and get him for $12-13 mil but if you are Snuggerud why wouldn’t you just wait and see. It’s the Wild Wild West out there right now. Our $8 mil per year player is over in St. Louis
Why gamble if you can have guaranteed money?

Sure the possibility is there for a larger pay day, but what if it isn't there? What if his wrist snaps again? Has a sophomore slump?

If the blues go to him with a good respectable offer for a good length such as say 80/8 that's 80 freaking million dollars. Would you say no and take your chances that a team might throw an insane offer at you and that some 4th line goon doesn't elbow smash your face into the glass and you miss 40 games from a concussion?

Way too many variables out of their control when the one variable they can control, guaranteed money and a lot of it, is right there.
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Re: Ducks match the offer sheet. Carlsson stays.

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TheJackBurton wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:32 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:23 pm
UMR-alum-05 wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:18 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:14 pm Snuggerud going to cost $15 mil per a year from now.
He would have to put up 90 this year for that.

Come on man.

I'm not saying that isn't possible. But to just say that like it's fact is not quite realistic.
He can pop in 25-30 goals and simply wait for an offer sheet. Maybe we get lucky and get him for $12-13 mil but if you are Snuggerud why wouldn’t you just wait and see. It’s the Wild Wild West out there right now. Our $8 mil per year player is over in St. Louis
Why gamble if you can have guaranteed money?

Sure the possibility is there for a larger pay day, but what if it isn't there? What if his wrist snaps again? Has a sophomore slump?

If the blues go to him with a good respectable offer for a good length such as say 80/8 that's 80 freaking million dollars. Would you say no and take your chances that a team might throw an insane offer at you and that some 4th line goon doesn't elbow smash your face into the glass and you miss 40 games from a concussion?

Way too many variables out of their control when the one variable they can control, guaranteed money and a lot of it, is right there.
We shall see…I’ll be shocked if we get him signed for less than $12 mil per year. I believe he’s going to be the highest paid Blue in history a year from now.
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Re: Ducks match the offer sheet. Carlsson stays.

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Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:39 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:32 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:23 pm
UMR-alum-05 wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:18 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:14 pm Snuggerud going to cost $15 mil per a year from now.
He would have to put up 90 this year for that.

Come on man.

I'm not saying that isn't possible. But to just say that like it's fact is not quite realistic.
He can pop in 25-30 goals and simply wait for an offer sheet. Maybe we get lucky and get him for $12-13 mil but if you are Snuggerud why wouldn’t you just wait and see. It’s the Wild Wild West out there right now. Our $8 mil per year player is over in St. Louis
Why gamble if you can have guaranteed money?

Sure the possibility is there for a larger pay day, but what if it isn't there? What if his wrist snaps again? Has a sophomore slump?

If the blues go to him with a good respectable offer for a good length such as say 80/8 that's 80 freaking million dollars. Would you say no and take your chances that a team might throw an insane offer at you and that some 4th line goon doesn't elbow smash your face into the glass and you miss 40 games from a concussion?

Way too many variables out of their control when the one variable they can control, guaranteed money and a lot of it, is right there.
We shall see…I’ll be shocked if we get him signed for less than $12 mil per year. I believe he’s going to be the highest paid Blue in history a year from now.
Oh I don't doubt that at all. I just don't see taking the chance of playing out seasons without guarantees when you can make generational money and ensure your life and I think most will still take that over gambling.
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Re: Ducks match the offer sheet. Carlsson stays.

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How in the world would we even begin to guess what Snuggerud will make until we see how he performs next year?

Dude could score anywhere from 50-100 points.
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Re: Ducks match the offer sheet. Carlsson stays.

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Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:23 pm
UMR-alum-05 wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:18 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:14 pm Snuggerud going to cost $15 mil per a year from now.
He would have to put up 90 this year for that.

Come on man.

I'm not saying that isn't possible. But to just say that like it's fact is not quite realistic.
He can pop in 25-30 goals and simply wait for an offer sheet. Maybe we get lucky and get him for $12-13 mil but if you are Snuggerud why wouldn’t you just wait and see. It’s the Wild Wild West out there right now. Our $8 mil per year player is over in St. Louis
Big difference between 8 and 15.

Carlson was going to do 8x10 and he's a center

You're jumping to conclusions big time.
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Re: Ducks match the offer sheet. Carlsson stays.

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UMR-alum-05 wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:47 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:23 pm
UMR-alum-05 wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:18 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:14 pm Snuggerud going to cost $15 mil per a year from now.
He would have to put up 90 this year for that.

Come on man.

I'm not saying that isn't possible. But to just say that like it's fact is not quite realistic.
He can pop in 25-30 goals and simply wait for an offer sheet. Maybe we get lucky and get him for $12-13 mil but if you are Snuggerud why wouldn’t you just wait and see. It’s the Wild Wild West out there right now. Our $8 mil per year player is over in St. Louis
Big difference between 8 and 15.

Carlson was going to do 8x10 and he's a center

You're jumping to conclusions big time.
Where is that info coming from?
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Re: Ducks match the offer sheet. Carlsson stays.

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skilles wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:45 pm How in the world would we even begin to guess what Snuggerud will make until we see how he performs next year?

Dude could score anywhere from 50-100 points.
2,112 percent. He's played 77 NHL games.
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Re: Ducks match the offer sheet. Carlsson stays.

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Unless someone mentioned it, Snuggerud can't be offer-sheeted until summer of 2028. It's going to be real interesting to see how next summer plays out with him being a RFA...it totally depends on this season.

Someone will make more than Thomas very soon...Snuggerud seems like the one that's in line for it.
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Re: Ducks match the offer sheet. Carlsson stays.

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skilles wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:48 pm
UMR-alum-05 wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:47 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:23 pm
UMR-alum-05 wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:18 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:14 pm Snuggerud going to cost $15 mil per a year from now.
He would have to put up 90 this year for that.

Come on man.

I'm not saying that isn't possible. But to just say that like it's fact is not quite realistic.
He can pop in 25-30 goals and simply wait for an offer sheet. Maybe we get lucky and get him for $12-13 mil but if you are Snuggerud why wouldn’t you just wait and see. It’s the Wild Wild West out there right now. Our $8 mil per year player is over in St. Louis
Big difference between 8 and 15.

Carlson was going to do 8x10 and he's a center

You're jumping to conclusions big time.
Where is that info coming from?
I saw it was $12mil is what Leo and his agent wanted, then he got the $18mil per offer and him and his agent went back to the Ducks and told Verbeek they wanted $15mil per and Verbeek still said no.. :lol:
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Re: Ducks match the offer sheet. Carlsson stays.

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skilles wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:48 pm
UMR-alum-05 wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:47 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:23 pm
UMR-alum-05 wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:18 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:14 pm Snuggerud going to cost $15 mil per a year from now.
He would have to put up 90 this year for that.

Come on man.

I'm not saying that isn't possible. But to just say that like it's fact is not quite realistic.
He can pop in 25-30 goals and simply wait for an offer sheet. Maybe we get lucky and get him for $12-13 mil but if you are Snuggerud why wouldn’t you just wait and see. It’s the Wild Wild West out there right now. Our $8 mil per year player is over in St. Louis
Big difference between 8 and 15.

Carlson was going to do 8x10 and he's a center

You're jumping to conclusions big time.
Where is that info coming from?
https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/news/vanco ... hl-careers

He did an interview last summer with Elias Pettersson where they talked about all things hockey and they discussed Carlsson's future deal and he said "I’d take that, for sure" when EP suggested 9.5x8 years.

A few other reporters have also stated that he was willing to sign last summer for something around 12M. Verbeek really messed up.
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Re: Ducks match the offer sheet. Carlsson stays.

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The NHL has become the NBA. They are killing to golden goose.
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Re: Ducks match the offer sheet. Carlsson stays.

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bluetunehead wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:57 pm
skilles wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:48 pm
UMR-alum-05 wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:47 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:23 pm
UMR-alum-05 wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:18 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:14 pm Snuggerud going to cost $15 mil per a year from now.
He would have to put up 90 this year for that.

Come on man.

I'm not saying that isn't possible. But to just say that like it's fact is not quite realistic.
He can pop in 25-30 goals and simply wait for an offer sheet. Maybe we get lucky and get him for $12-13 mil but if you are Snuggerud why wouldn’t you just wait and see. It’s the Wild Wild West out there right now. Our $8 mil per year player is over in St. Louis
Big difference between 8 and 15.

Carlson was going to do 8x10 and he's a center

You're jumping to conclusions big time.
Where is that info coming from?
https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/news/vanco ... hl-careers

He did an interview last summer with Elias Pettersson where they talked about all things hockey and they discussed Carlsson's future deal and he said "I’d take that, for sure" when EP suggested 9.5x8 years.

A few other reporters have also stated that he was willing to sign last summer for something around 12M. Verbeek really messed up.
Oh that is a little harsh, last summer he was coming off of a 45 point season. Nobody was giving him 12 million last summer and definitely not Army.
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Re: Ducks match the offer sheet. Carlsson stays.

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Didn't really doubt that they would match but Verbeek really screwed his own team over. If Carlsson gave them a shot for something less than the offer sheet, then Verbeek needs to be fired immediately as that is inexcusable.

As for RFAs in the future, teams would be wise to ink their deals the summer before these top line/top pair guys are eligible for offer sheets. Probably the best deals they're going to get but for the love of God don't give these kids NTC/NMC. Pay them before they absolutely prove their worth but don't tie your hands if they don't meet the contracts value.
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Re: Ducks match the offer sheet. Carlsson stays.

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Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:54 pm
skilles wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:48 pm
UMR-alum-05 wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:47 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:23 pm
UMR-alum-05 wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:18 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:14 pm Snuggerud going to cost $15 mil per a year from now.
He would have to put up 90 this year for that.

Come on man.

I'm not saying that isn't possible. But to just say that like it's fact is not quite realistic.
He can pop in 25-30 goals and simply wait for an offer sheet. Maybe we get lucky and get him for $12-13 mil but if you are Snuggerud why wouldn’t you just wait and see. It’s the Wild Wild West out there right now. Our $8 mil per year player is over in St. Louis
Big difference between 8 and 15.

Carlson was going to do 8x10 and he's a center

You're jumping to conclusions big time.
Where is that info coming from?
I saw it was $12mil is what Leo and his agent wanted, then he got the $18mil per offer and him and his agent went back to the Ducks and told Verbeek they wanted $15mil per and Verbeek still said no.. :lol:
Well you can't just sign right up for 15 million just because someones agent tells you they have an offer for 18 million.

I'm not trying to defend the Ducks but people are crazy if they think this same thing hasn't been left open by the Blues.
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Re: Ducks match the offer sheet. Carlsson stays.

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Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:39 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:32 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:23 pm
UMR-alum-05 wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:18 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Jul 2026 12:14 pm Snuggerud going to cost $15 mil per a year from now.
He would have to put up 90 this year for that.

Come on man.

I'm not saying that isn't possible. But to just say that like it's fact is not quite realistic.
He can pop in 25-30 goals and simply wait for an offer sheet. Maybe we get lucky and get him for $12-13 mil but if you are Snuggerud why wouldn’t you just wait and see. It’s the Wild Wild West out there right now. Our $8 mil per year player is over in St. Louis
Why gamble if you can have guaranteed money?

Sure the possibility is there for a larger pay day, but what if it isn't there? What if his wrist snaps again? Has a sophomore slump?

If the blues go to him with a good respectable offer for a good length such as say 80/8 that's 80 freaking million dollars. Would you say no and take your chances that a team might throw an insane offer at you and that some 4th line goon doesn't elbow smash your face into the glass and you miss 40 games from a concussion?

Way too many variables out of their control when the one variable they can control, guaranteed money and a lot of it, is right there.
We shall see…I’ll be shocked if we get him signed for less than $12 mil per year. I believe he’s going to be the highest paid Blue in history a year from now.
I think he'll get a huge deal from the Blues but nobody is knocking on his door with 15M.

He's not a center. That's what makes Carlsson so valuable. Snuggerud will never be that. The wingers making over 10M have typically had 90 or 100 point seasons, in some cases repeatedly. The only two that don't are Dorofeyev and Tuch (the two most recent signees). I'm sure he will point to Dorofeyev's 11M as his comp, but that's a long way from 15M, and he's coming off 72 goals the last two years. I suspect Snuggerud comes in around 10M unless he is an absolute force out there this season.