Rangers Ducks talking McTavish

[Pierre McGuire]

I would 100% roll the dice on McTavish.

That said if the Blues really offered #11 we’d be talking about this trade in past tense.

NYR supposedly offered #26. If its taking Anaheim this long to decide, I’m guessing Blues are offering #29+.

What if we offered 11 and Buch

11 is an absolute non starter for McTavish. No way Army moves pick 11 unless we are getting more than McTavish.

[TBone]

11 is an absolute non starter for McTavish. No way Army moves pick 11 unless we are getting more than McTavish.

Agreed. The 11 spot is the pivot point to trade up or draft the one stud player that slips.

[noted]

I would 100% roll the dice on McTavish.

That said if the Blues really offered #11 we’d be talking about this trade in past tense.

NYR supposedly offered #26. If its taking Anaheim this long to decide, I’m guessing Blues are offering #29+.

What if we offered 11 and Buch

11 is an absolute non starter for McTavish. No way Army moves pick 11 unless we are getting more than McTavish.

I hope you are right but per Friedman on 32 thoughts pod this morning, Blues offered #11

https://x.com/nhlrumourreport/status/20 ... 70776?s=46

[skilles]

I wouldn’t be giving up any firsts for McTavish.

What about, as suggested above, 11 for McTavish and our second? With the thought that pick would be used for an offer sheet/trade

If he's not a center or a poor one, where would he slot in as a LW? 2nd line? 3rd line? And do we want a LW at $7 mil x 5 for 20 goals?

It feels like a younger Buchnevich unless the Blues have a real way to fix his deficiencies as a center. Hope they've got it figured out.

He took over 750 face offs last year, was 22 when the season started

[Frank Underwood]

11 is an absolute non starter for McTavish. No way Army moves pick 11 unless we are getting more than McTavish.

Agreed. The 11 spot is the pivot point to trade up or draft the one stud player that slips.

I'm not buying this rumor, but yeah, I find it highly unlikely that Army trades pick #11 BEFORE seeing who is there. Tonight, after the first 10 picks? Maybe then, but I'm still skeptical.

[BalotelliMassive]

11 is an absolute non starter for McTavish. No way Army moves pick 11 unless we are getting more than McTavish.

Agreed. The 11 spot is the pivot point to trade up or draft the one stud player that slips.

I'm not buying this rumor, but yeah, I find it highly unlikely that Army trades pick #11 BEFORE seeing who is there. Tonight, after the first 10 picks? Maybe then, but I'm still skeptical.

Whoever they pick is going to take years to make a difference in the NHL. Moving 11 (who might not make the NHL) for a sure-fire center on a team that wants to compete now is good business for the Blues.

[aslord]

why are we including Suter in every single trade offer? He's making 4.5 can score, is excellent defensively can play center or wing on the 3rd or 4th line, and is a great teammate.

Why would be looking to get rid of that?

Personally I like Pius, for me it's you gotta give to get, and also I don't see him as part of the plan here after this year. He's what going to be 30 and a free agent. The Blues have plenty of players standing by to try and fill that role from Dube (if they sign him), to Kaskimaki, to Dean.

If he helps get you McTavish, makes sense to me to move him.

people still thinking of Dean as an asset? stop

[TheJackBurton]

if it was #11 the deal would be done.

[Frank Underwood]

11 is an absolute non starter for McTavish. No way Army moves pick 11 unless we are getting more than McTavish.

Agreed. The 11 spot is the pivot point to trade up or draft the one stud player that slips.

I'm not buying this rumor, but yeah, I find it highly unlikely that Army trades pick #11 BEFORE seeing who is there. Tonight, after the first 10 picks? Maybe then, but I'm still skeptical.

Whoever they pick is going to take years to make a difference in the NHL. Moving 11 (who might not make the NHL) for a sure-fire center on a team that wants to compete now is good business for the Blues.

I agree with those comments. I have no problem acquiring McTavish......but it would be unlike Army to do it now. He would want to wait and see how the draft plays out, who slips, or what team in the top 10 might decide to trade down with the Blues.

[Pierre McGuire]

if it was #11 the deal would be done.

Last I saw the Ducks are also asking for a prospect to be included with that 1st.

[Rollin' on the River]

Apparently the Blues offer for MacTavish INCLUDES the 11th overall pick according to Friedman

[Ty Webb]

I wouldn’t be giving up any firsts for McTavish.

What about, as suggested above, 11 for McTavish and our second? With the thought that pick would be used for an offer sheet/trade

If he's not a center or a poor one, where would he slot in as a LW? 2nd line? 3rd line? And do we want a LW at $7 mil x 5 for 20 goals?

It feels like a younger Buchnevich unless the Blues have a real way to fix his deficiencies as a center. Hope they've got it figured out.

I was trying to gauge Tim’s thoughts on if Anaheim would sweeten the deal if he could get on board. Obviously he said no.

For me I only want McTavish on two conditions; if our scouts/coaches are sure he can stick at C, and if the cost is not one of our first three picks. Pick 29 and a tier 2 prospect works for me.

[Rollin' on the River]

I would 100% roll the dice on McTavish.

That said if the Blues really offered #11 we’d be talking about this trade in past tense.

NYR supposedly offered #26. If its taking Anaheim this long to decide, I’m guessing Blues are offering #29+.

What if we offered 11 and Buch

11 is an absolute non starter for McTavish. No way Army moves pick 11 unless we are getting more than McTavish.

I hope you are right but per Friedman on 32 thoughts pod this morning, Blues offered #11

https://x.com/nhlrumourreport/status/20 ... 70776?s=46

This is what I was afraid of.

Armstrong stockpiles draft pick bullets going after guys, and trades don’t materialize so he has to overpay for guys by using higher picks.

I don’t think anyone asked “what if” this week and trades don’t materialize. Then what?

Mason MacTavish for the 11th pick is asinine. Don’t overpay to save face. Which is exactly what Armstrong will do on his way out the door

[juan good eye]

11 is an absolute non starter for McTavish. No way Army moves pick 11 unless we are getting more than McTavish.

Agreed. The 11 spot is the pivot point to trade up or draft the one stud player that slips.

I'm not buying this rumor, but yeah, I find it highly unlikely that Army trades pick #11 BEFORE seeing who is there. Tonight, after the first 10 picks? Maybe then, but I'm still skeptical.

Whoever they pick is going to take years to make a difference in the NHL. Moving 11 (who might not make the NHL) for a sure-fire center on a team that wants to compete now is good business for the Blues.

trying to force the team to be competitive now is a bad move. just bc the hawks (bleep) up the blues don’t need to do the same.

[bluetunehead]

Apparently the Blues offer for MacTavish INCLUDES the 11th overall pick according to Friedman

I’m fine with one of 15 or 16. Please no to 11. Sigh. Statistically it might be a small difference but take your best shot in the draft please. We don’t even know who is going to be available there yet.

Edit: for instance if it’s 15/16 then the rationale is basically Faulk or Kyrou for McTavish (and McMichael in the case of the Kyrou deal). I can live with that.

[Rollin' on the River]

Apparently the Blues offer for MacTavish INCLUDES the 11th overall pick according to Friedman

I’m fine with one of 15 or 16. Please no to 11. Sigh. Statistically it might be a small difference but take your best shot in the draft please. We don’t even know who is going to be available there yet.

Agreed. That’s what I’m sayings

If you’re not getting true game changers with these draft picks. Just go into the draft and see what’s there when you’re up and work the phones then.