Rollin' on the River wrote: ↑08 May 2026 03:28 am
If Kyrou thinks St Louis is dull, wait until he gets a load of Central Ohio
You have a source or link on how JK feels about STL?
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SameOldBlues wrote: ↑08 May 2026 05:34 am
Am I the only poster left that wants the Blues to stay the course and even add to the youth movement?
It seems most of the talk is about adding veteran players.
I'm not looking to add expensive players that are on, or near the back 9 of their careers.
Im right there with ya. I actually want to groom our own stars abd have a long contention window, seems like most around here couldn’t care less about winning and just want a couple over the hill stars from other teams and would be happy as hell with some more 1990’s first round exits. BUT AT LEAST WE HAD A CHANCE..derp.
Veterans that are 26 are very different than veterans that are 30.
If they trade Kyrou they need a player that is ready now not a player that is ready in 3 years but thats a 23-25 year old with term not a 27-29 year old.
SameOldBlues wrote: ↑08 May 2026 05:34 am
Am I the only poster left that wants the Blues to stay the course and even add to the youth movement?
It seems most of the talk is about adding veteran players.
I'm not looking to add expensive players that are on, or near the back 9 of their careers.
Im right there with ya. I actually want to groom our own stars abd have a long contention window, seems like most around here couldn’t care less about winning and just want a couple over the hill stars from other teams and would be happy as hell with some more 1990’s first round exits. BUT AT LEAST WE HAD A CHANCE..derp.
Veterans that are 26 are very different than veterans that are 30.
If they trade Kyrou they need a player that is ready now not a player that is ready in 3 years but thats a 23-25 year old with term not a 27-29 year old.
SameOldBlues wrote: ↑08 May 2026 05:34 am
Am I the only poster left that wants the Blues to stay the course and even add to the youth movement?
It seems most of the talk is about adding veteran players.
I'm not looking to add expensive players that are on, or near the back 9 of their careers.
Im right there with ya. I actually want to groom our own stars abd have a long contention window, seems like most around here couldn’t care less about winning and just want a couple over the hill stars from other teams and would be happy as hell with some more 1990’s first round exits. BUT AT LEAST WE HAD A CHANCE..derp.
Veterans that are 26 are very different than veterans that are 30.
If they trade Kyrou they need a player that is ready now not a player that is ready in 3 years but thats a 23-25 year old with term not a 27-29 year old.
If you trade Kyrou and acquire that pick, now you have 4 first rounders. You don’t think you have enough capital to acquire that player?
Blues also have a free asset in Dube that can probably come in and replace Kyrou’s production right now
Look at what they got for Faulk and for Schenn. I would expect more!! Kyrou is just now entering his prime years. So a proven 30+ goal scorer for a pocket full of hope? No way, Jose.
SameOldBlues wrote: ↑08 May 2026 05:34 am
Am I the only poster left that wants the Blues to stay the course and even add to the youth movement?
It seems most of the talk is about adding veteran players.
I'm not looking to add expensive players that are on, or near the back 9 of their careers.
Im right there with ya. I actually want to groom our own stars abd have a long contention window, seems like most around here couldn’t care less about winning and just want a couple over the hill stars from other teams and would be happy as hell with some more 1990’s first round exits. BUT AT LEAST WE HAD A CHANCE..derp.
Veterans that are 26 are very different than veterans that are 30.
If they trade Kyrou they need a player that is ready now not a player that is ready in 3 years but thats a 23-25 year old with term not a 27-29 year old.
If you trade Kyrou and acquire that pick, now you have 4 first rounders. You don’t think you have enough capital to acquire that player?
Blues also have a free asset in Dube that can probably come in and replace Kyrou’s production right now
Dube isn't replacing Kyrou's production. He's at best a 3rd liner and more likely a 4th liner.
Wouldn't the comment "end up with a player ready now" cover your scenario?
SameOldBlues wrote: ↑08 May 2026 05:34 am
Am I the only poster left that wants the Blues to stay the course and even add to the youth movement?
It seems most of the talk is about adding veteran players.
I'm not looking to add expensive players that are on, or near the back 9 of their careers.
Im right there with ya. I actually want to groom our own stars abd have a long contention window, seems like most around here couldn’t care less about winning and just want a couple over the hill stars from other teams and would be happy as hell with some more 1990’s first round exits. BUT AT LEAST WE HAD A CHANCE..derp.
Veterans that are 26 are very different than veterans that are 30.
If they trade Kyrou they need a player that is ready now not a player that is ready in 3 years but thats a 23-25 year old with term not a 27-29 year old.
If you trade Kyrou and acquire that pick, now you have 4 first rounders. You don’t think you have enough capital to acquire that player?
Blues also have a free asset in Dube that can probably come in and replace Kyrou’s production right now
Dube isn't replacing Kyrou's production. He's at best a 3rd liner and more likely a 4th liner.
Wouldn't the comment "end up with a player ready now" cover your scenario?
Please…Dube can easily score 18 goals in the NHL next season
SameOldBlues wrote: ↑08 May 2026 05:34 am
Am I the only poster left that wants the Blues to stay the course and even add to the youth movement?
It seems most of the talk is about adding veteran players.
I'm not looking to add expensive players that are on, or near the back 9 of their careers.
Im right there with ya. I actually want to groom our own stars abd have a long contention window, seems like most around here couldn’t care less about winning and just want a couple over the hill stars from other teams and would be happy as hell with some more 1990’s first round exits. BUT AT LEAST WE HAD A CHANCE..derp.
Veterans that are 26 are very different than veterans that are 30.
If they trade Kyrou they need a player that is ready now not a player that is ready in 3 years but thats a 23-25 year old with term not a 27-29 year old.
If you trade Kyrou and acquire that pick, now you have 4 first rounders. You don’t think you have enough capital to acquire that player?
Blues also have a free asset in Dube that can probably come in and replace Kyrou’s production right now
Dube isn't replacing Kyrou's production. He's at best a 3rd liner and more likely a 4th liner.
Wouldn't the comment "end up with a player ready now" cover your scenario?
Please…Dube can easily score 18 goals in the NHL next season
His history in the NHL doesn't scream easy 18 goal scorer..
Kyrou had a down year last season that's not his norm, the Blues need a 30 goal 60-70 point player and Dube isn't that.. Kyrou has proven he is.
SameOldBlues wrote: ↑08 May 2026 05:34 am
Am I the only poster left that wants the Blues to stay the course and even add to the youth movement?
It seems most of the talk is about adding veteran players.
I'm not looking to add expensive players that are on, or near the back 9 of their careers.
Im right there with ya. I actually want to groom our own stars abd have a long contention window, seems like most around here couldn’t care less about winning and just want a couple over the hill stars from other teams and would be happy as hell with some more 1990’s first round exits. BUT AT LEAST WE HAD A CHANCE..derp.
Veterans that are 26 are very different than veterans that are 30.
If they trade Kyrou they need a player that is ready now not a player that is ready in 3 years but thats a 23-25 year old with term not a 27-29 year old.
If you trade Kyrou and acquire that pick, now you have 4 first rounders. You don’t think you have enough capital to acquire that player?
Blues also have a free asset in Dube that can probably come in and replace Kyrou’s production right now
Dube isn't replacing Kyrou's production. He's at best a 3rd liner and more likely a 4th liner.
Wouldn't the comment "end up with a player ready now" cover your scenario?
Please…Dube can easily score 18 goals in the NHL next season
His history in the NHL doesn't scream easy 18 goal scorer..
Kyrou had a down year last season that's not his norm, the Blues need a 30 goal 60-70 point player and Dube isn't that.. Kyrou has proven he is.
The only thing Kyrou has proven is that he is not a consistent player. He can't drive a line. His forechecking is nonexistent. Let him go elsewhere and it will be addition by subtraction.
SameOldBlues wrote: ↑08 May 2026 05:34 am
Am I the only poster left that wants the Blues to stay the course and even add to the youth movement?
It seems most of the talk is about adding veteran players.
I'm not looking to add expensive players that are on, or near the back 9 of their careers.
Im right there with ya. I actually want to groom our own stars abd have a long contention window, seems like most around here couldn’t care less about winning and just want a couple over the hill stars from other teams and would be happy as hell with some more 1990’s first round exits. BUT AT LEAST WE HAD A CHANCE..derp.
Veterans that are 26 are very different than veterans that are 30.
If they trade Kyrou they need a player that is ready now not a player that is ready in 3 years but thats a 23-25 year old with term not a 27-29 year old.
If you trade Kyrou and acquire that pick, now you have 4 first rounders. You don’t think you have enough capital to acquire that player?
Blues also have a free asset in Dube that can probably come in and replace Kyrou’s production right now
Dube isn't replacing Kyrou's production. He's at best a 3rd liner and more likely a 4th liner.
Wouldn't the comment "end up with a player ready now" cover your scenario?
Please…Dube can easily score 18 goals in the NHL next season
His history in the NHL doesn't scream easy 18 goal scorer..
Kyrou had a down year last season that's not his norm, the Blues need a 30 goal 60-70 point player and Dube isn't that.. Kyrou has proven he is.
And at this point we don’t know what he is anymore. Im as big a Kyrou fan as there is, but he doesn’t even look like the same player anymore.
SameOldBlues wrote: ↑08 May 2026 05:34 am
Am I the only poster left that wants the Blues to stay the course and even add to the youth movement?
It seems most of the talk is about adding veteran players.
I'm not looking to add expensive players that are on, or near the back 9 of their careers.
Im right there with ya. I actually want to groom our own stars abd have a long contention window, seems like most around here couldn’t care less about winning and just want a couple over the hill stars from other teams and would be happy as hell with some more 1990’s first round exits. BUT AT LEAST WE HAD A CHANCE..derp.
Veterans that are 26 are very different than veterans that are 30.
If they trade Kyrou they need a player that is ready now not a player that is ready in 3 years but thats a 23-25 year old with term not a 27-29 year old.
If you trade Kyrou and acquire that pick, now you have 4 first rounders. You don’t think you have enough capital to acquire that player?
Blues also have a free asset in Dube that can probably come in and replace Kyrou’s production right now
Dube isn't replacing Kyrou's production. He's at best a 3rd liner and more likely a 4th liner.
Wouldn't the comment "end up with a player ready now" cover your scenario?
Please…Dube can easily score 18 goals in the NHL next season
His history in the NHL doesn't scream easy 18 goal scorer..
Kyrou had a down year last season that's not his norm, the Blues need a 30 goal 60-70 point player and Dube isn't that.. Kyrou has proven he is.
And at this point we don’t know what he is anymore. Im as big a Kyrou fan as there is, but he doesn’t even look like the same player anymore.
I'm not advocating keeping him, I just don't think Dube is the replacement.
TheHighHat wrote: ↑08 May 2026 05:28 am
I disagree.
The Blues have major team and organizational depth issues at the 2 hardest positions (center & RHD) to fill.
I would absolutely take that #14 pick for Kyrou. Columbus can't be that dumb, can they?
That trade might hurt the current Blues team, but would help the organization immensely.
Am I the only poster left that wants the Blues to stay the course and even add to the youth movement?
It seems most of the talk is about adding veteran players.
I'm not looking to add expensive players that are on, or near the back 9 of their careers.
I don't expect the Blues to be ready for primetime until 2030.
It's going to take time for guys like Dvorsky, Jiricek, Lindstein, Fischer, and Carbonneau to mature.
Adding 3-4 quality prospects at the draft this year will help give us a 2nd wave of players in the pipeline that will be needed to build a top team.
Trading Kyrou creates another hole, only the giant hole is on the NHL roster instead of in the prospects pool. The Blues have major issues with scoring goals outside of the 1st line. If they trade Kyrou for a draft pick, they have no secondary goal scorer.
I’m only interested if that was somehow involved in a 3-way trade to either move up in the draft or pluck a young Center prospect in the vein of Desnoyers, Iginla, or O’Brein.
The hope in moving a Kyrou is a player like Stenberg, Kaskimaki, or Carbonneau can replace that 2021/22-thru-2024/25 offensive production Kyrou brought. How quickly we forget how good JK was in 2024/25 until he got Stanley-Steamrolled in Game 1.
The Blues can likely replace his 2025/26 production w/Drouin+Stenberg, but that still has the squad out if the Stanley Cup Playoffs. Ideally, the Blues are retaining a resurgent Kyrou & and maturing Stenberg and replacing a Drouin w/Kas and/or Carbonneau
Scenario 1
Holloway - Thomas - Snuggerud
Buch - Offseason 2C - Kyrou
Neighbors - Suter - Dvorsky
Carbs/Kas - Finley - O Stenberg
Kas/Carbs, Berggren, Torpedo, Aussie
Scenario 2
Holloway - Thomas - Snuggerud
Buch - Suter - Kyrou
Neighbors - Dvorsky - O Stenberg
Carbs/Kas - Offseason Prospect C - Berggren/Torpedo
Kas/Carbs, Finley, Torp/Berggren, Aussie
I understand that’s a bit of a cluster-eff, because the Scenario 1 plan is to expedite the on-ice product for possible Round 2 playoff contention + Dvorsky’s, Stenberg’s and either Kas/Carbs development and Scenario 2 is more focused on player-development and potential Wild Card 2 contention.
I feel Scenario 1 likely has a Carbonneau in AHL for the beginning of the season if promote Kaskimaki, whereas Scenario 2 would have both on the team getting meaningful Bottom-6 minutes.
You need a reality check if you think you are getting a prospect the caliber of Desnoyers, Iginla, or O’Brein for Jordan Kyrou…
Let’s play a game… point out to me where I said that?
TheHighHat wrote: ↑08 May 2026 05:28 am
I disagree.
The Blues have major team and organizational depth issues at the 2 hardest positions (center & RHD) to fill.
I would absolutely take that #14 pick for Kyrou. Columbus can't be that dumb, can they?
That trade might hurt the current Blues team, but would help the organization immensely.
Am I the only poster left that wants the Blues to stay the course and even add to the youth movement?
It seems most of the talk is about adding veteran players.
I'm not looking to add expensive players that are on, or near the back 9 of their careers.
I don't expect the Blues to be ready for primetime until 2030.
It's going to take time for guys like Dvorsky, Jiricek, Lindstein, Fischer, and Carbonneau to mature.
Adding 3-4 quality prospects at the draft this year will help give us a 2nd wave of players in the pipeline that will be needed to build a top team.
Trading Kyrou creates another hole, only the giant hole is on the NHL roster instead of in the prospects pool. The Blues have major issues with scoring goals outside of the 1st line. If they trade Kyrou for a draft pick, they have no secondary goal scorer.
Pssst - their secondary scoring stunk last season with Kyrou...
