Proposed Kyrou trade to CBJ

[hockey jedi]

Per Michael Whitaker of Clutch Points.

He wonders if there is a match for Kyrou for the Columbus first round pick at 14.

It would be good for the Blues, Kyrou and Columbus.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nhl/2- ... 2121&ei=30

[Rollin' on the River]

If Kyrou thinks St Louis is dull, wait until he gets a load of Central Ohio

[zoiks]

The Blues do not need more mid-1st draft picks or young prospects. If Kyrou is traded, the return should be NHL-ready talent. This proposed trade would be a salary dump for the Blues, which makes no sense since the free agent pool is bleak.

[Zizzle1297]

What about

Kyrou for Cole Sillinger or even Voronkov plus a pick or prospect.

[SameOldBlues]

The Blues do not need more mid-1st draft picks or young prospects. If Kyrou is traded, the return should be NHL-ready talent. This proposed trade would be a salary dump for the Blues, which makes no sense since the free agent pool is bleak.

Oh yes but they do, especially if they have their eyes on movin up. The Blues should trade him for #14 straight up in a heartbeat, unfortunately I doubt Columbus would.

[TheHighHat]

The Blues do not need more mid-1st draft picks or young prospects. If Kyrou is traded, the return should be NHL-ready talent. This proposed trade would be a salary dump for the Blues, which makes no sense since the free agent pool is bleak.

I disagree.
The Blues have major team and organizational depth issues at the 2 hardest positions (center & RHD) to fill.
I would absolutely take that #14 pick for Kyrou. Columbus can't be that dumb, can they?
That trade might hurt the current Blues team, but would help the organization immensely.

Am I the only poster left that wants the Blues to stay the course and even add to the youth movement?
It seems most of the talk is about adding veteran players.
I'm not looking to add expensive players that are on, or near the back 9 of their careers.

I don't expect the Blues to be ready for primetime until 2030.
It's going to take time for guys like Dvorsky, Jiricek, Lindstein, Fischer, and Carbonneau to mature.
Adding 3-4 quality prospects at the draft this year will help give us a 2nd wave of players in the pipeline that will be needed to build a top team.

[SameOldBlues]

Am I the only poster left that wants the Blues to stay the course and even add to the youth movement?
It seems most of the talk is about adding veteran players.
I'm not looking to add expensive players that are on, or near the back 9 of their careers.

Im right there with ya. I actually want to groom our own stars abd have a long contention window, seems like most around here couldn’t care less about winning and just want a couple over the hill stars from other teams and would be happy as hell with some more 1990’s first round exits. BUT AT LEAST WE HAD A CHANCE..derp.

[Zizzle1297]

Am I the only poster left that wants the Blues to stay the course and even add to the youth movement?
It seems most of the talk is about adding veteran players.
I'm not looking to add expensive players that are on, or near the back 9 of their careers.

Im right there with ya. I actually want to groom our own stars abd have a long contention window, seems like most around here couldn’t care less about winning and just want a couple over the hill stars from other teams and would be happy as hell with some more 1990’s first round exits. BUT AT LEAST WE HAD A CHANCE..derp.

I get what your saying to a point but I believe you need to have pretty balanced mix. I strongly believe that why Buffalo has struggled SO long because they have been so young now the players are maturing and they finally figured it out!

[zamadoo]

The Blues do not need more mid-1st draft picks or young prospects. If Kyrou is traded, the return should be NHL-ready talent. This proposed trade would be a salary dump for the Blues, which makes no sense since the free agent pool is bleak.

I disagree.
The Blues have major team and organizational depth issues at the 2 hardest positions (center & RHD) to fill.
I would absolutely take that #14 pick for Kyrou. Columbus can't be that dumb, can they?
That trade might hurt the current Blues team, but would help the organization immensely.

Am I the only poster left that wants the Blues to stay the course and even add to the youth movement?
It seems most of the talk is about adding veteran players.
I'm not looking to add expensive players that are on, or near the back 9 of their careers.

I don't expect the Blues to be ready for primetime until 2030.
It's going to take time for guys like Dvorsky, Jiricek, Lindstein, Fischer, and Carbonneau to mature.
Adding 3-4 quality prospects at the draft this year will help give us a 2nd wave of players in the pipeline that will be needed to build a top team.

I think I'm somewhere in between.

If the right deals are presented, then you take them. Adding a real solid vet or replacing Kyrou with one doesn't mean we're going full tilt just yet, and I would agree we shouldn't be moving out all of our futures at this moment.

I would move Kyrou for the 14th and a prospect or young player that fits, but I might also take a 1st and 2nd in next year's draft. Four picks in a single 1st round doesn't seem too smart to me. Need to spread those over the years. Or, I really think this team needs to move up and get better quality.

I mentioned this in another thread, but maybe multiple trades or a 3-way makes sense to get the #2 or another top pick. In this case, move Kyrou for #14 and then use three picks to move up.

Or something like Kyrou and #15 for #14, our 2nd back, and another pick/prospect.

[TBone]

The Blues do not need more mid-1st draft picks or young prospects. If Kyrou is traded, the return should be NHL-ready talent. This proposed trade would be a salary dump for the Blues, which makes no sense since the free agent pool is bleak.

I want to get rid of him as badly as anyone, but a mid-1st isn't enough for a perrenial 20-30 goal scorer

[a smell of green grass]

The Blues do not need more mid-1st draft picks or young prospects. If Kyrou is traded, the return should be NHL-ready talent. This proposed trade would be a salary dump for the Blues, which makes no sense since the free agent pool is bleak.

I disagree.
The Blues have major team and organizational depth issues at the 2 hardest positions (center & RHD) to fill.
I would absolutely take that #14 pick for Kyrou. Columbus can't be that dumb, can they?
That trade might hurt the current Blues team, but would help the organization immensely.

Am I the only poster left that wants the Blues to stay the course and even add to the youth movement?
It seems most of the talk is about adding veteran players.
I'm not looking to add expensive players that are on, or near the back 9 of their careers.

I don't expect the Blues to be ready for primetime until 2030.
It's going to take time for guys like Dvorsky, Jiricek, Lindstein, Fischer, and Carbonneau to mature.
Adding 3-4 quality prospects at the draft this year will help give us a 2nd wave of players in the pipeline that will be needed to build a top team.

I agree with you. Unfortunately, the Blues are in perpetual win now mode. Army calls it "staying competitive". The owners call it a "reliable cash register". This is how we got Kyrou and Buchnevich got signed for 8 years in the first place. Do Kyrou and Buchnevich look like McDavid and Draisitl to you? It's frustrating to watch teams around us that got rich the right way. These fans are now eating steak, while we are eating hot dogs from the take-out window.

[BleedingBleu]

Per Michael Whitaker of Clutch Points.

He wonders if there is a match for Kyrou for the Columbus first round pick at 14.

It would be good for the Blues, Kyrou and Columbus.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nhl/2- ... 2121&ei=30

I’m only interested if that was somehow involved in a 3-way trade to either move up in the draft or pluck a young Center prospect in the vein of Desnoyers, Iginla, or O’Brein.

The hope in moving a Kyrou is a player like Stenberg, Kaskimaki, or Carbonneau can replace that 2021/22-thru-2024/25 offensive production Kyrou brought. How quickly we forget how good JK was in 2024/25 until he got Stanley-Steamrolled in Game 1.

The Blues can likely replace his 2025/26 production w/Drouin+Stenberg, but that still has the squad out if the Stanley Cup Playoffs. Ideally, the Blues are retaining a resurgent Kyrou & and maturing Stenberg and replacing a Drouin w/Kas and/or Carbonneau

Scenario 1

• Holloway - Thomas - Snuggerud

• Buch - Offseason 2C - Kyrou

• Neighbors - Suter - Dvorsky

• Carbs/Kas - Finley - O Stenberg

Kas/Carbs, Berggren, Torpedo, Aussie

Scenario 2

• Holloway - Thomas - Snuggerud

• Buch - Suter - Kyrou

• Neighbors - Dvorsky - O Stenberg

• Carbs/Kas - Offseason Prospect C - Berggren/Torpedo

Kas/Carbs, Finley, Torp/Berggren, Aussie

I understand that’s a bit of a cluster-eff, because the Scenario 1 plan is to expedite the on-ice product for possible Round 2 playoff contention + Dvorsky’s, Stenberg’s and either Kas/Carbs development and Scenario 2 is more focused on player-development and potential Wild Card 2 contention.

I feel Scenario 1 likely has a Carbonneau in AHL for the beginning of the season if promote Kaskimaki, whereas Scenario 2 would have both on the team getting meaningful Bottom-6 minutes.

[dhsux]

If Kyrou thinks St Louis is dull, wait until he gets a load of Central Ohio

You have a source or link on how JK feels about STL?

[Ty Webb]

Per Michael Whitaker of Clutch Points.

He wonders if there is a match for Kyrou for the Columbus first round pick at 14.

It would be good for the Blues, Kyrou and Columbus.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nhl/2- ... 2121&ei=30

I’m only interested if that was somehow involved in a 3-way trade to either move up in the draft or pluck a young Center prospect in the vein of Desnoyers, Iginla, or O’Brein.

The hope in moving a Kyrou is a player like Stenberg, Kaskimaki, or Carbonneau can replace that 2021/22-thru-2024/25 offensive production Kyrou brought. How quickly we forget how good JK was in 2024/25 until he got Stanley-Steamrolled in Game 1.

The Blues can likely replace his 2025/26 production w/Drouin+Stenberg, but that still has the squad out if the Stanley Cup Playoffs. Ideally, the Blues are retaining a resurgent Kyrou & and maturing Stenberg and replacing a Drouin w/Kas and/or Carbonneau

Scenario 1

• Holloway - Thomas - Snuggerud

• Buch - Offseason 2C - Kyrou

• Neighbors - Suter - Dvorsky

• Carbs/Kas - Finley - O Stenberg

Kas/Carbs, Berggren, Torpedo, Aussie

Scenario 2

• Holloway - Thomas - Snuggerud

• Buch - Suter - Kyrou

• Neighbors - Dvorsky - O Stenberg

• Carbs/Kas - Offseason Prospect C - Berggren/Torpedo

Kas/Carbs, Finley, Torp/Berggren, Aussie

I understand that’s a bit of a cluster-eff, because the Scenario 1 plan is to expedite the on-ice product for possible Round 2 playoff contention + Dvorsky’s, Stenberg’s and either Kas/Carbs development and Scenario 2 is more focused on player-development and potential Wild Card 2 contention.

I feel Scenario 1 likely has a Carbonneau in AHL for the beginning of the season if promote Kaskimaki, whereas Scenario 2 would have both on the team getting meaningful Bottom-6 minutes.

I prefer Scenario 2, unless we can make a deal for a 2C that fits our timeline and core. I've wondered if your Scenario 2 2nd line might work. Did Suter ever play with Buch and JK last season? I don't remember them playing together, but it was a long season.

[noted]

Per Michael Whitaker of Clutch Points.

He wonders if there is a match for Kyrou for the Columbus first round pick at 14.

It would be good for the Blues, Kyrou and Columbus.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nhl/2- ... 2121&ei=30

I’m only interested if that was somehow involved in a 3-way trade to either move up in the draft or pluck a young Center prospect in the vein of Desnoyers, Iginla, or O’Brein.

The hope in moving a Kyrou is a player like Stenberg, Kaskimaki, or Carbonneau can replace that 2021/22-thru-2024/25 offensive production Kyrou brought. How quickly we forget how good JK was in 2024/25 until he got Stanley-Steamrolled in Game 1.

The Blues can likely replace his 2025/26 production w/Drouin+Stenberg, but that still has the squad out if the Stanley Cup Playoffs. Ideally, the Blues are retaining a resurgent Kyrou & and maturing Stenberg and replacing a Drouin w/Kas and/or Carbonneau

Scenario 1

• Holloway - Thomas - Snuggerud

• Buch - Offseason 2C - Kyrou

• Neighbors - Suter - Dvorsky

• Carbs/Kas - Finley - O Stenberg

Kas/Carbs, Berggren, Torpedo, Aussie

Scenario 2

• Holloway - Thomas - Snuggerud

• Buch - Suter - Kyrou

• Neighbors - Dvorsky - O Stenberg

• Carbs/Kas - Offseason Prospect C - Berggren/Torpedo

Kas/Carbs, Finley, Torp/Berggren, Aussie

I understand that’s a bit of a cluster-eff, because the Scenario 1 plan is to expedite the on-ice product for possible Round 2 playoff contention + Dvorsky’s, Stenberg’s and either Kas/Carbs development and Scenario 2 is more focused on player-development and potential Wild Card 2 contention.

I feel Scenario 1 likely has a Carbonneau in AHL for the beginning of the season if promote Kaskimaki, whereas Scenario 2 would have both on the team getting meaningful Bottom-6 minutes.

You need a reality check if you think you are getting a prospect the caliber of Desnoyers, Iginla, or O’Brein for Jordan Kyrou…

[Rollin' on the River]

If Kyrou thinks St Louis is dull, wait until he gets a load of Central Ohio

You have a source or link on how JK feels about STL?

I wasn’t making a statement. Just an inference.

This place is insufferable. My Lord.