If Donovan stays, what do the Cardinals do with Nootbaar and Gorman?

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Re: If Donovan stays, what do the Cardinals do with Nootbaar and Gorman?

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Cusecards wrote: 25 Jan 2026 11:48 am
woofy25 wrote: 24 Jan 2026 22:03 pm The clear answer should be Herrera catches, Gorman DHs, JJ plays 2B and Donovan plays 3B. This is a throw away year. If Herrera sucks behind the plate, it doesn’t matter. There will likely be positions available to Herrera in 2027 as some players may play themselves out of town
Good points.
Herrera catching definitely deepens the lineup from an offensive standpoint.
It gets a little trickier from a defensive standpoint.
Herrera is probably the weakest of the current catching options(Pages/Pozo/Crooks) followed by Bernal(late 2026?) and Rodriguez(2027?).
So the question becomes...do they give Herrera another shot in 2026 OR use the upcoming season to acclimate him to a different position?
Guess we’ll find out.
Sounds like he got the surgery specifically to help him behind the plate. I’d imagine his primary position going into ST is Catcher
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Re: If Donovan stays, what do the Cardinals do with Nootbaar and Gorman?

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woofy25 wrote: 25 Jan 2026 14:03 pm
Cusecards wrote: 25 Jan 2026 11:48 am
woofy25 wrote: 24 Jan 2026 22:03 pm The clear answer should be Herrera catches, Gorman DHs, JJ plays 2B and Donovan plays 3B. This is a throw away year. If Herrera sucks behind the plate, it doesn’t matter. There will likely be positions available to Herrera in 2027 as some players may play themselves out of town
Good points.
Herrera catching definitely deepens the lineup from an offensive standpoint.
It gets a little trickier from a defensive standpoint.
Herrera is probably the weakest of the current catching options(Pages/Pozo/Crooks) followed by Bernal(late 2026?) and Rodriguez(2027?).
So the question becomes...do they give Herrera another shot in 2026 OR use the upcoming season to acclimate him to a different position?
Guess we’ll find out.
Sounds like he got the surgery specifically to help him behind the plate. I’d imagine his primary position going into ST is Catcher
I’m hopeful that removing the bone spurs will allow him to throw from behind the plate. He’s shown the ability to call a game and frame pitches. Even a slightly below average arm will get it done considering his offensive profile.

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Re: If Donovan stays, what do the Cardinals do with Nootbaar and Gorman?

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See the end of old yeller? I kid.
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Re: If Donovan stays, what do the Cardinals do with Nootbaar and Gorman?

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I would look to see which of Donovan, Nootbaar, or Gorman could bring the best return at the deadline. However, i believe Donovan is dealt before Opening Day.
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Re: If Donovan stays, what do the Cardinals do with Nootbaar and Gorman?

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Trade Gorman, keep Donovan. Address the outfield.
Get it done Bloomer
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Re: If Donovan stays, what do the Cardinals do with Nootbaar and Gorman?

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riff raff wrote: 25 Jan 2026 16:12 pm Trade Gorman, keep Donovan. Address the outfield.
Get it done Bloomer
Right now, what could Bloom expect to get for Gorman ?
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Re: If Donovan stays, what do the Cardinals do with Nootbaar and Gorman?

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Shady wrote: 25 Jan 2026 16:19 pm
riff raff wrote: 25 Jan 2026 16:12 pm Trade Gorman, keep Donovan. Address the outfield.
Get it done Bloomer
Right now, what could Bloom expect to get for Gorman ?
Who cares? Get him out of the way for real bb players.
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Re: If Donovan stays, what do the Cardinals do with Nootbaar and Gorman?

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Shady wrote: 25 Jan 2026 16:19 pm
riff raff wrote: 25 Jan 2026 16:12 pm Trade Gorman, keep Donovan. Address the outfield.
Get it done Bloomer
Right now, what could Bloom expect to get for Gorman ?
They could trade Burleson and play Gorman at first.
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Re: If Donovan stays, what do the Cardinals do with Nootbaar and Gorman?

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Mort Gage wrote: 25 Jan 2026 16:33 pm
Shady wrote: 25 Jan 2026 16:19 pm
riff raff wrote: 25 Jan 2026 16:12 pm Trade Gorman, keep Donovan. Address the outfield.
Get it done Bloomer
Right now, what could Bloom expect to get for Gorman ?
They could trade Burleson and play Gorman at first.
sweet
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Re: If Donovan stays, what do the Cardinals do with Nootbaar and Gorman?

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Talkin' Baseball wrote: 25 Jan 2026 16:34 pm
Mort Gage wrote: 25 Jan 2026 16:33 pm
Shady wrote: 25 Jan 2026 16:19 pm
riff raff wrote: 25 Jan 2026 16:12 pm Trade Gorman, keep Donovan. Address the outfield.
Get it done Bloomer
Right now, what could Bloom expect to get for Gorman ?
They could trade Burleson and play Gorman at first.
sweet
That may be the stupidest thing ever suggested on Cards Talk. Credibility lost.
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Re: If Donovan stays, what do the Cardinals do with Nootbaar and Gorman?

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riff raff wrote: 25 Jan 2026 16:21 pm
Shady wrote: 25 Jan 2026 16:19 pm
riff raff wrote: 25 Jan 2026 16:12 pm Trade Gorman, keep Donovan. Address the outfield.
Get it done Bloomer
Right now, what could Bloom expect to get for Gorman ?
Who cares? Get him out of the way for real bb players.
A big +1 I I never bought into the logic “but Gorman sucks nobody wants him and won’t trade anything for him so cards need to keep him and give this player who sucks another season to once again proves he sucks” what? That doesn’t sound right
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Re: If Donovan stays, what do the Cardinals do with Nootbaar and Gorman?

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Shady wrote: 25 Jan 2026 16:56 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 25 Jan 2026 16:34 pm
Mort Gage wrote: 25 Jan 2026 16:33 pm
Shady wrote: 25 Jan 2026 16:19 pm
riff raff wrote: 25 Jan 2026 16:12 pm Trade Gorman, keep Donovan. Address the outfield.
Get it done Bloomer
Right now, what could Bloom expect to get for Gorman ?
They could trade Burleson and play Gorman at first.
sweet
That may be the stupidest thing ever suggested on Cards Talk. Credibility lost.
Nobody puts Shady's Alec in a corner
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Re: If Donovan stays, what do the Cardinals do with Nootbaar and Gorman?

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Shady wrote: 25 Jan 2026 16:56 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 25 Jan 2026 16:34 pm
Mort Gage wrote: 25 Jan 2026 16:33 pm
Shady wrote: 25 Jan 2026 16:19 pm
riff raff wrote: 25 Jan 2026 16:12 pm Trade Gorman, keep Donovan. Address the outfield.
Get it done Bloomer
Right now, what could Bloom expect to get for Gorman ?
They could trade Burleson and play Gorman at first.
sweet
That may be the stupidest thing ever suggested on Cards Talk. Credibility lost.
Nah.

I saw someone suggest giving China economic control of the StL metro area in order to build a Disney park in E. St Louis in order to rejuvenate the Cardinals.

This was just someone’s baseball trade suggestion.