Do you think he hates eBay?Poojols wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 18:28 pmI'm laughing at the socialism and capitalism mentions. This isn't government and different countries being discussed. It's entertainment. What fun is entertainment when it's imbalanced?Ike Hammett wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 13:12 pmI'm certainly not arguing this. Baseball is for everyone, it's for kids and a pastime to get through the day. Back in the day our great grandparents treated our sports heroes to discount groceries and a friendly smile and genuine caring about their families and lives. Today the love is 10s and hundreds of millions. That's capitalism and what Cards fans fight for, maybe the hardest of all fans. So deal with it.Poojols wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 12:42 pmNFL and NHL are pretty balanced. I'm rooting for a lockout if rules aren't changed. Player's salaries have caught up enough the past 25 years.Ike Hammett wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 12:09 pmThe two are not mutually exclusive, I get what you are stating though. No system will ever be completely perfect. Good luck trying to sell Cards fans on a more socialist type MLB TV structure or economic structure. Maybe the biggest downfall of Cards baseball and MLB is that. Everyone for themselves, right? Dodgers fans don't really think that way, they are in it together and want what is best for everyone, at least from my experience.Poojols wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 11:52 am"It's the opposite" and "it isn't really that broken" are contradictory.Ike Hammett wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 10:12 amNo, it's the opposite! Dodgers fans showed up 4 million strong, root like crazy ( in a fun and happy way) people love their players and management, love baseball and pay big bucks to see it.
The system isn't really that broken, you "best fans in baseball" are. Yeah, Cards could definitely use a TV deal like that.
You're getting a little bit closer to the truth with your last sentence though. Keep going!
We get it. You hate capitalism.
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What do economic situations have to do with anything? The Cards are one of the richest franchises in baseball even with those "backwoods hillbillies" buying up those tickets compared to Champagne ticket buyers.Ike Hammett wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 17:10 pmWhat is so hard to understand?TheJackBurton wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 15:49 pmNone of this makes any sense unless you just did an 8 ball before typing any of it.Ike Hammett wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 13:37 pmNot sure if we are allowed to conversate about such things, but this topic has passed and it's about luxury tax. THE PEOPLE OF HOLLYWOOD CAN AND DO AFFORD A LUXURY TAX AND HAVE WORLD CHAMPS TO ROOT FOR! The people of rural West Virginia, Kansas, Arkansas etc are whining about their luxury tax being hire than the whole payroll of the Cards. So root for the rural West Virginia team as i want to compete with the Dodgers! I'm not "talking" I'm posting about economics and the structures of economics. Which you lose at like you do at baseball!TheJackBurton wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 13:16 pmWhat in the holy hell are you even talking about?Ike Hammett wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 12:01 pmThere are 3 teams in Southern California. The Cards have historically owned the Southern Midwest and still have fans in lots of other places around the Midwest. Maybe if Cardinals fan types didn't kill economies and adopted a more fun loving and open type mindset you wouldn't destroy St. Louis either and more fans would show up during the week.cardstatman wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 11:47 amDodgers drew 4 million in an area of maybe 14M to 18M people with a peaking team.Ike Hammett wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 10:12 amNo, it's the opposite! Dodgers fans showed up 4 million strong, root like crazy ( in a fun and happy way) people love their players and management, love baseball and pay big bucks to see it.
The system isn't really that broken, you "best fans in baseball" are. Yeah, Cards could definitely use a TV deal like that.
Cardinals drew 2.5 million in an area of maybe 3M people with a cratering team. Okay, be honest, it was 2.5M tickets but 1.5M people .
This huge difference shows up most strongly in Monday to Thursday games... which is around half of the games.
Working people aren't often going drive over an hour to attend a weeknight game.
They would watch on TV, but MLB is rarely on TV outside of St Louis unless you pay for a package.
Dodgers and people of LA/ Hollywood are rich. Cardinals fans from rural Oklahoma, Kansas West Virginia, Missouri are not. It's obvious as to why, and obvious as to why more players would rather go there.
Do you even have any idea what point you are trying to make?
It doesn't matter if all the Cards attracted was billionaires, they don't have a tv market of 18 million people, they have a tv market of 3 million that's the difference in today's baseball world.
The Dodgers make money before they sell ticket 1, the Cards don't. Your point is completely idiotic.
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"What do economic situations have to do with anything?" What kind of babbling nonsense is this? Obviously people and fans that have better economic situations can support their team and recreational activities at better levels, have more free time to enjoy them, can and will enjoy them along with being in a position to do so if they want.TheJackBurton wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 01:00 amWhat do economic situations have to do with anything? The Cards are one of the richest franchises in baseball even with those "backwoods hillbillies" buying up those tickets compared to Champagne ticket buyers.Ike Hammett wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 17:10 pmWhat is so hard to understand?TheJackBurton wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 15:49 pmNone of this makes any sense unless you just did an 8 ball before typing any of it.Ike Hammett wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 13:37 pmNot sure if we are allowed to conversate about such things, but this topic has passed and it's about luxury tax. THE PEOPLE OF HOLLYWOOD CAN AND DO AFFORD A LUXURY TAX AND HAVE WORLD CHAMPS TO ROOT FOR! The people of rural West Virginia, Kansas, Arkansas etc are whining about their luxury tax being hire than the whole payroll of the Cards. So root for the rural West Virginia team as i want to compete with the Dodgers! I'm not "talking" I'm posting about economics and the structures of economics. Which you lose at like you do at baseball!TheJackBurton wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 13:16 pmWhat in the holy hell are you even talking about?Ike Hammett wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 12:01 pmThere are 3 teams in Southern California. The Cards have historically owned the Southern Midwest and still have fans in lots of other places around the Midwest. Maybe if Cardinals fan types didn't kill economies and adopted a more fun loving and open type mindset you wouldn't destroy St. Louis either and more fans would show up during the week.cardstatman wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 11:47 amDodgers drew 4 million in an area of maybe 14M to 18M people with a peaking team.Ike Hammett wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 10:12 amNo, it's the opposite! Dodgers fans showed up 4 million strong, root like crazy ( in a fun and happy way) people love their players and management, love baseball and pay big bucks to see it.
The system isn't really that broken, you "best fans in baseball" are. Yeah, Cards could definitely use a TV deal like that.
Cardinals drew 2.5 million in an area of maybe 3M people with a cratering team. Okay, be honest, it was 2.5M tickets but 1.5M people .
This huge difference shows up most strongly in Monday to Thursday games... which is around half of the games.
Working people aren't often going drive over an hour to attend a weeknight game.
They would watch on TV, but MLB is rarely on TV outside of St Louis unless you pay for a package.
Dodgers and people of LA/ Hollywood are rich. Cardinals fans from rural Oklahoma, Kansas West Virginia, Missouri are not. It's obvious as to why, and obvious as to why more players would rather go there.
Do you even have any idea what point you are trying to make?
It doesn't matter if all the Cards attracted was billionaires, they don't have a tv market of 18 million people, they have a tv market of 3 million that's the difference in today's baseball world.
The Dodgers make money before they sell ticket 1, the Cards don't. Your point is completely idiotic.
Prove to me the Cards are " one of the richest richest franchises in baseball". I see a team struggling to keep their head above water trying to remain relevant as the big dogs scavenge their parts for something that might help them.
Not all Cards fans are " backwoods hillbillies" and I WOULD NEVER STATE SUCH A THING! A lot of Dodgers fans are immigrants and of not ""champagne" type fans, just folks that love baseball, America and want to be a part of something successful they can identify with.
Obviously the point I'm trying to make (on this headline and particular subject) is, the Dodgers can draw the masses, they can get the people to buy into what they are selling, generate huge revenues (even to a point of subsidies for other clubs). That their fans show up in huge numbers, support the club and are happy. I'm not certain people and fans like you could ever be happy or support their club like that. And if you can't or don't, they beat you AND DESERVE TOO!
Like I stated, there are 3 teams in Southern California and another one soon coming to Las Vegas, along with about another dozen pro teams to root for. YES!!! Southern California is baseball crazy but the Dodgers don't have a monopoly on it and neither does baseball, THEY EARN THAT BUSINESS!
I think it's kind of confusing and contradicting to state the Cards are one of the richest teams, yet make no money and you think crying poor for ticket sales. The Cards definitely need ticket sales and fans to show up, be happy, support the club, and build it up.
You are terrible girl!
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:::sigh::: I don't know how else to explain this, butts in seats are no longer a major league teams primary goal. It is nothing but a small piece of the pie. The tv contracts, luxury boxes, and advertising dollars are all that matters. The Dodgers have 15 million more people to pull from than the Cards do. Therefore they can charge drastically more for televising rights, advertising dollars on tv and inside the park. The type of audience or where they are from makes little to no difference as far as any of that is concerned. The Dodgers can pay Ohtani 700 million dollars because their advertisers will pay significantly more money to be seen during a game because of the possibility of 10 million+ watching a game. The Cards and the vast majority of other teams can't pay Ohtani 700 million dollars because even if they get every eyeball in their cities watching and attending a game they still fall millions of eyeballs short of what LA can potentially have.Ike Hammett wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 08:13 am"What do economic situations have to do with anything?" What kind of babbling nonsense is this? Obviously people and fans that have better economic situations can support their team and recreational activities at better levels, have more free time to enjoy them, can and will enjoy them along with being in a position to do so if they want.TheJackBurton wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 01:00 amWhat do economic situations have to do with anything? The Cards are one of the richest franchises in baseball even with those "backwoods hillbillies" buying up those tickets compared to Champagne ticket buyers.Ike Hammett wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 17:10 pmWhat is so hard to understand?TheJackBurton wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 15:49 pmNone of this makes any sense unless you just did an 8 ball before typing any of it.Ike Hammett wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 13:37 pmNot sure if we are allowed to conversate about such things, but this topic has passed and it's about luxury tax. THE PEOPLE OF HOLLYWOOD CAN AND DO AFFORD A LUXURY TAX AND HAVE WORLD CHAMPS TO ROOT FOR! The people of rural West Virginia, Kansas, Arkansas etc are whining about their luxury tax being hire than the whole payroll of the Cards. So root for the rural West Virginia team as i want to compete with the Dodgers! I'm not "talking" I'm posting about economics and the structures of economics. Which you lose at like you do at baseball!TheJackBurton wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 13:16 pmWhat in the holy hell are you even talking about?Ike Hammett wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 12:01 pmThere are 3 teams in Southern California. The Cards have historically owned the Southern Midwest and still have fans in lots of other places around the Midwest. Maybe if Cardinals fan types didn't kill economies and adopted a more fun loving and open type mindset you wouldn't destroy St. Louis either and more fans would show up during the week.cardstatman wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 11:47 am
Dodgers drew 4 million in an area of maybe 14M to 18M people with a peaking team.
Cardinals drew 2.5 million in an area of maybe 3M people with a cratering team. Okay, be honest, it was 2.5M tickets but 1.5M people .
This huge difference shows up most strongly in Monday to Thursday games... which is around half of the games.
Working people aren't often going drive over an hour to attend a weeknight game.
They would watch on TV, but MLB is rarely on TV outside of St Louis unless you pay for a package.
Dodgers and people of LA/ Hollywood are rich. Cardinals fans from rural Oklahoma, Kansas West Virginia, Missouri are not. It's obvious as to why, and obvious as to why more players would rather go there.
Do you even have any idea what point you are trying to make?
It doesn't matter if all the Cards attracted was billionaires, they don't have a tv market of 18 million people, they have a tv market of 3 million that's the difference in today's baseball world.
The Dodgers make money before they sell ticket 1, the Cards don't. Your point is completely idiotic.
Prove to me the Cards are " one of the richest richest franchises in baseball". I see a team struggling to keep their head above water trying to remain relevant as the big dogs scavenge their parts for something that might help them.
Not all Cards fans are " backwoods hillbillies" and I WOULD NEVER STATE SUCH A THING! A lot of Dodgers fans are immigrants and of not ""champagne" type fans, just folks that love baseball, America and want to be a part of something successful they can identify with.
Obviously the point I'm trying to make (on this headline and particular subject) is, the Dodgers can draw the masses, they can get the people to buy into what they are selling, generate huge revenues (even to a point of subsidies for other clubs). That their fans show up in huge numbers, support the club and are happy. I'm not certain people and fans like you could ever be happy or support their club like that. And if you can't or don't, they beat you AND DESERVE TOO!
Like I stated, there are 3 teams in Southern California and another one soon coming to Las Vegas, along with about another dozen pro teams to root for. YES!!! Southern California is baseball crazy but the Dodgers don't have a monopoly on it and neither does baseball, THEY EARN THAT BUSINESS!
I think it's kind of confusing and contradicting to state the Cards are one of the richest teams, yet make no money and you think crying poor for ticket sales. The Cards definitely need ticket sales and fans to show up, be happy, support the club, and build it up.
You are terrible girl!
Can you possibly understand this now?
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No, because it makes no sense and is way more complicated. So why aren't the LA Sparks or Chargers, LA FC soccer team more valuable and way out spend a team like the Kansas City Chiefs? So you are telling me if the Dodgers drew crowds like Tampa they would still be as good? So why aren't the Angels? Why aren't the Marlins a juggernaut?TheJackBurton wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 13:09 pm:::sigh::: I don't know how else to explain this, butts in seats are no longer a major league teams primary goal. It is nothing but a small piece of the pie. The tv contracts, luxury boxes, and advertising dollars are all that matters. The Dodgers have 15 million more people to pull from than the Cards do. Therefore they can charge drastically more for televising rights, advertising dollars on tv and inside the park. The type of audience or where they are from makes little to no difference as far as any of that is concerned. The Dodgers can pay Ohtani 700 million dollars because their advertisers will pay significantly more money to be seen during a game because of the possibility of 10 million+ watching a game. The Cards and the vast majority of other teams can't pay Ohtani 700 million dollars because even if they get every eyeball in their cities watching and attending a game they still fall millions of eyeballs short of what LA can potentially have.Ike Hammett wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 08:13 am"What do economic situations have to do with anything?" What kind of babbling nonsense is this? Obviously people and fans that have better economic situations can support their team and recreational activities at better levels, have more free time to enjoy them, can and will enjoy them along with being in a position to do so if they want.TheJackBurton wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 01:00 amWhat do economic situations have to do with anything? The Cards are one of the richest franchises in baseball even with those "backwoods hillbillies" buying up those tickets compared to Champagne ticket buyers.Ike Hammett wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 17:10 pmWhat is so hard to understand?TheJackBurton wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 15:49 pmNone of this makes any sense unless you just did an 8 ball before typing any of it.Ike Hammett wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 13:37 pmNot sure if we are allowed to conversate about such things, but this topic has passed and it's about luxury tax. THE PEOPLE OF HOLLYWOOD CAN AND DO AFFORD A LUXURY TAX AND HAVE WORLD CHAMPS TO ROOT FOR! The people of rural West Virginia, Kansas, Arkansas etc are whining about their luxury tax being hire than the whole payroll of the Cards. So root for the rural West Virginia team as i want to compete with the Dodgers! I'm not "talking" I'm posting about economics and the structures of economics. Which you lose at like you do at baseball!TheJackBurton wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 13:16 pmWhat in the holy hell are you even talking about?Ike Hammett wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 12:01 pmThere are 3 teams in Southern California. The Cards have historically owned the Southern Midwest and still have fans in lots of other places around the Midwest. Maybe if Cardinals fan types didn't kill economies and adopted a more fun loving and open type mindset you wouldn't destroy St. Louis either and more fans would show up during the week.cardstatman wrote: ↑20 Dec 2025 11:47 am
Dodgers drew 4 million in an area of maybe 14M to 18M people with a peaking team.
Cardinals drew 2.5 million in an area of maybe 3M people with a cratering team. Okay, be honest, it was 2.5M tickets but 1.5M people .
This huge difference shows up most strongly in Monday to Thursday games... which is around half of the games.
Working people aren't often going drive over an hour to attend a weeknight game.
They would watch on TV, but MLB is rarely on TV outside of St Louis unless you pay for a package.
Dodgers and people of LA/ Hollywood are rich. Cardinals fans from rural Oklahoma, Kansas West Virginia, Missouri are not. It's obvious as to why, and obvious as to why more players would rather go there.
Do you even have any idea what point you are trying to make?
It doesn't matter if all the Cards attracted was billionaires, they don't have a tv market of 18 million people, they have a tv market of 3 million that's the difference in today's baseball world.
The Dodgers make money before they sell ticket 1, the Cards don't. Your point is completely idiotic.
Prove to me the Cards are " one of the richest richest franchises in baseball". I see a team struggling to keep their head above water trying to remain relevant as the big dogs scavenge their parts for something that might help them.
Not all Cards fans are " backwoods hillbillies" and I WOULD NEVER STATE SUCH A THING! A lot of Dodgers fans are immigrants and of not ""champagne" type fans, just folks that love baseball, America and want to be a part of something successful they can identify with.
Obviously the point I'm trying to make (on this headline and particular subject) is, the Dodgers can draw the masses, they can get the people to buy into what they are selling, generate huge revenues (even to a point of subsidies for other clubs). That their fans show up in huge numbers, support the club and are happy. I'm not certain people and fans like you could ever be happy or support their club like that. And if you can't or don't, they beat you AND DESERVE TOO!
Like I stated, there are 3 teams in Southern California and another one soon coming to Las Vegas, along with about another dozen pro teams to root for. YES!!! Southern California is baseball crazy but the Dodgers don't have a monopoly on it and neither does baseball, THEY EARN THAT BUSINESS!
I think it's kind of confusing and contradicting to state the Cards are one of the richest teams, yet make no money and you think crying poor for ticket sales. The Cards definitely need ticket sales and fans to show up, be happy, support the club, and build it up.
You are terrible girl!
Can you possibly understand this now?
This is nonsense you provide ma'am!
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Wow. The above poster is asking why the Chargers don't outspend the Chiefs? Uhhh, because the NFL has a salary cap. I really thought that was common knowledge.
The NFL is king because every market actually has a chance.
Both NY teams in the NFL suck and have sucked for awhile now because they can't just outspend every other team and actually have to be smart and build a team better than the other 31 teams that are all playing by the same rules.
NFL teams also can't just go out and sign an international superstar like Ohtani just because they are situated in LA or NY.
The NFL is king because every market actually has a chance.
Both NY teams in the NFL suck and have sucked for awhile now because they can't just outspend every other team and actually have to be smart and build a team better than the other 31 teams that are all playing by the same rules.
NFL teams also can't just go out and sign an international superstar like Ohtani just because they are situated in LA or NY.
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attendance has been up 3 years in a row (first time in decades) and we just had the best WS I've ever seen
well, someone is an idiot for sure!
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Obviously it has to do with the rules and structure of the league, not the market size right? That it's more complicated than just how many people are in any market.cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 13:58 pm Wow. The above poster is asking why the Chargers don't outspend the Chiefs? Uhhh, because the NFL has a salary cap. I really thought that was common knowledge.
The NFL is king because every market actually has a chance.
Both NY teams in the NFL suck and have sucked for awhile now because they can't just outspend every other team and actually have to be smart and build a team better than the other 31 teams that are all playing by the same rules.
Thanks for proving my point.
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It has everything to do with market size. Large city teams can spend more and play under a completely different rule set than small market teams.Ike Hammett wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 14:03 pmObviously it has to do with the rules and structure of the league, not the market size right? That it's more complicated than just how many people are in any market.cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 13:58 pm Wow. The above poster is asking why the Chargers don't outspend the Chiefs? Uhhh, because the NFL has a salary cap. I really thought that was common knowledge.
The NFL is king because every market actually has a chance.
Both NY teams in the NFL suck and have sucked for awhile now because they can't just outspend every other team and actually have to be smart and build a team better than the other 31 teams that are all playing by the same rules.
Thanks for proving my point.
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Huh? That's only if the rules are different. And it's not true if teams in those big markets don't have the attendence and support like the Dodgers do. It's far more complicated. The strategies and ways to succeed are based on lots of factors.cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 14:06 pmIt has everything to do with market size. Large city teams can spend more and play under a completely different rule set than small market teams.Ike Hammett wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 14:03 pmObviously it has to do with the rules and structure of the league, not the market size right? That it's more complicated than just how many people are in any market.cardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 13:58 pm Wow. The above poster is asking why the Chargers don't outspend the Chiefs? Uhhh, because the NFL has a salary cap. I really thought that was common knowledge.
The NFL is king because every market actually has a chance.
Both NY teams in the NFL suck and have sucked for awhile now because they can't just outspend every other team and actually have to be smart and build a team better than the other 31 teams that are all playing by the same rules.
Thanks for proving my point.
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You must have the memory of a fruit fly.Ike Hammett wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 08:13 am Prove to me the Cards are " one of the richest richest franchises in baseball". I see a team struggling to keep their head above water trying to remain relevant as the big dogs scavenge their parts for something that might help them.
Past 100 years
NYY ALE AL 100 9108 6542 .582 0.0 26 championships
LAD NLW NL 100 8566 7104 .547 552.0 9 championships
STL NLC NL 100 8483 7176 .542 629.5 11 championships
Two of those teams have enjoyed an unfair advantage of being located in the largest metro areas of the USA. They can simply buy the best players from the other teams. They do and they've won 26% and 9% of the championships. I realize the Dodgers moved from Brooklyn to LA about 60 years ago, but they enjoyed the same advantage in both cities.
Ohtani - free agent from Los Angeles Angels
Betts - salary dump from Boston Red Sox (David Price salary)
Yamamoto - free agent from Japan
Freeman - free agent from Atlanta Braves
Kim - free agent from South Korea
Hernandez - free agent from Astros/Blue Jays/Mariners
One of them has enjoyed the support a city not in the 20 largest metro areas of the USA. This city of inferior people has watched their team win 11% of the championships in that same period of time.
Congratulations on your Dodgers almost catching up to the Cardinals in championships. It is truly amazing they aren't already far ahead given their huge advantage. I guess their rich, superior fans have let them down.
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Free agency wasn't even a thing for a lot of those Championships. Sports economics was way different so were city and fans populations (St. Louis had 2 teams and had a huge following for a long time). Players didn't really make anything and needed off season jobs, there was no TV, Cards won the radio battle though.cardstatman wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 14:21 pmYou must have the memory of a fruit fly.Ike Hammett wrote: ↑21 Dec 2025 08:13 am Prove to me the Cards are " one of the richest richest franchises in baseball". I see a team struggling to keep their head above water trying to remain relevant as the big dogs scavenge their parts for something that might help them.
Past 100 years
NYY ALE AL 100 9108 6542 .582 0.0 26 championships
LAD NLW NL 100 8566 7104 .547 552.0 9 championships
STL NLC NL 100 8483 7176 .542 629.5 11 championships
Two of those teams have enjoyed an unfair advantage of being located in the largest metro areas of the USA. They can simply buy the best players from the other teams. They do and they've won 26% and 9% of the championships. I realize the Dodgers moved from Brooklyn to LA about 60 years ago, but they enjoyed the same advantage in both cities.
Ohtani - free agent from Los Angeles Angels
Betts - salary dump from Boston Red Sox (David Price salary)
Yamamoto - free agent from Japan
Freeman - free agent from Atlanta Braves
Kim - free agent from South Korea
Hernandez - free agent from Astros/Blue Jays/Mariners
One of them has enjoyed the support a city not in the 20 largest metro areas of the USA. This city of inferior people has watched their team win 11% of the championships in that same period of time.
Congratulations on your Dodgers almost catching up to the Cardinals in championships. It is truly amazing they aren't already far ahead given their huge advantage. I guess their rich, superior fans have let them down.
It was a totally different time and landscape. Cardinals can be and were competitive in the game today, but if you don't show up, don't support and even call for boycotting the club they can't be. I don't want to insult anybodys way of life or stereotype people, just stating they will keep winning while rural Oklahoma, West Virginia, Missouri, Tennessee, Southern Illinois etc will keep losing.
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Looking back at the 28 seasons since MLB expanded to 30 teams...
Ordered by winning percentage
Team ..W. ..L. .PCT. ..GB.. Championships (Metro Area size rank)
NYY 2592 1838 .585 000.0 4 (#1)
LAD 2492 1942 .562 102.0 3 (#2)
ATL 2437 1993 .550 155.0 1 (#8)
BOS 2420 2013 .546 173.5 4 (#12)
STL 2415 2015 .545 177.0 2 (#25)
CLE 2320 2111 .524 272.5 0 (#36)
HOU 2315 2117 .522 278.0 2 (#5)
SFG 2307 2125 .521 286.0 3 (#14)
OAK 2267 2165 .512 326.0 0 (#14)
PHI 2267 2166 .511 326.5 1 (#9)
LAA 2261 2173 .510 333.0 1 (#2)
NYM 2243 2189 .506 350.0 0 (#1)
TOR 2243 2190 .506 350.5 0 (#10)
SEA 2220 2213 .501 373.5 0 (#17)
CHC 2218 2215 .500 375.5 1 (#3)
MIL 2205 2228 .497 388.5 0 (#43)
TEX 2201 2234 .496 393.5 1 (#4)
MIN 2186 2246 .493 407.0 0 (#18)
TAM 2168 2264 .489 425.0 0 (#19)
ARI 2167 2267 .489 427.0 1 (#11)
SDP 2151 2284 .485 443.5 0 (#20)
CWS 2126 2307 .480 467.5 1 (#3)
CIN 2117 2318 .477 477.5 0 (#33)
WAS 2077 2355 .469 516.0 1 (#7)
DET 2062 2365 .466 528.5 0 (#15)
BAL 2037 2395 .460 556.0 0 (#24)
MIA 2028 2401 .458 563.5 1 (#6)
COL 2001 2434 .451 593.5 0 (#21)
PIT 1985 2443 .448 606.0 0 (#31)
KCR 1955 2477 .441 638.0 1 (#34)
Re-ordered by metro area size you can more easily see St Louis and Kansas City are the ONLY teams outside the top 14 metro areas to win a championship and the Mets and Blue Jays are the only teams inside the top 14 metro areas not to win a championship.
NYY 2592 1838 .585 000.0 4 (#1)
NYM 2243 2189 .506 350.0 0 (#1)
LAD 2492 1942 .562 102.0 3 (#2)
LAA 2261 2173 .510 333.0 1 (#2)
CHC 2218 2215 .500 375.5 1 (#3)
CWS 2126 2307 .480 467.5 1 (#3)
TEX 2201 2234 .496 393.5 1 (#4)
HOU 2315 2117 .522 278.0 2 (#5)
MIA 2028 2401 .458 563.5 1 (#6)
WAS 2077 2355 .469 516.0 1 (#7)
ATL 2437 1993 .550 155.0 1 (#8)
PHI 2267 2166 .511 326.5 1 (#9)
TOR 2243 2190 .506 350.5 0 (#10)
ARI 2167 2267 .489 427.0 1 (#11)
BOS 2420 2013 .546 173.5 4 (#12)
#13 is Riverside–San Bernardino–Ontario
SFG 2307 2125 .521 286.0 3 (#14)
DET 2062 2365 .466 528.5 0 (#15)
#16 is Montreal
SEA 2220 2213 .501 373.5 0 (#17)
MIN 2186 2246 .493 407.0 0 (#18)
TAM 2168 2264 .489 425.0 0 (#19)
SDP 2151 2284 .485 443.5 0 (#20)
COL 2001 2434 .451 593.5 0 (#21)
BAL 2037 2395 .460 556.0 0 (#24)
STL 2415 2015 .545 177.0 2 (#25)
PIT 1985 2443 .448 606.0 0 (#31)
Athl 2267 2165 .512 326.0 0 (#32)
CIN 2117 2318 .477 477.5 0 (#33)
KCR 1955 2477 .441 638.0 1 (#34)
CLE 2320 2111 .524 272.5 0 (#36)
MIL 2205 2228 .497 388.5 0 (#43)
Inferior fans in smaller cities or insufficient resources make it nearly impossible to win in a smaller city? You decide.
Ordered by winning percentage
Team ..W. ..L. .PCT. ..GB.. Championships (Metro Area size rank)
NYY 2592 1838 .585 000.0 4 (#1)
LAD 2492 1942 .562 102.0 3 (#2)
ATL 2437 1993 .550 155.0 1 (#8)
BOS 2420 2013 .546 173.5 4 (#12)
STL 2415 2015 .545 177.0 2 (#25)
CLE 2320 2111 .524 272.5 0 (#36)
HOU 2315 2117 .522 278.0 2 (#5)
SFG 2307 2125 .521 286.0 3 (#14)
OAK 2267 2165 .512 326.0 0 (#14)
PHI 2267 2166 .511 326.5 1 (#9)
LAA 2261 2173 .510 333.0 1 (#2)
NYM 2243 2189 .506 350.0 0 (#1)
TOR 2243 2190 .506 350.5 0 (#10)
SEA 2220 2213 .501 373.5 0 (#17)
CHC 2218 2215 .500 375.5 1 (#3)
MIL 2205 2228 .497 388.5 0 (#43)
TEX 2201 2234 .496 393.5 1 (#4)
MIN 2186 2246 .493 407.0 0 (#18)
TAM 2168 2264 .489 425.0 0 (#19)
ARI 2167 2267 .489 427.0 1 (#11)
SDP 2151 2284 .485 443.5 0 (#20)
CWS 2126 2307 .480 467.5 1 (#3)
CIN 2117 2318 .477 477.5 0 (#33)
WAS 2077 2355 .469 516.0 1 (#7)
DET 2062 2365 .466 528.5 0 (#15)
BAL 2037 2395 .460 556.0 0 (#24)
MIA 2028 2401 .458 563.5 1 (#6)
COL 2001 2434 .451 593.5 0 (#21)
PIT 1985 2443 .448 606.0 0 (#31)
KCR 1955 2477 .441 638.0 1 (#34)
Re-ordered by metro area size you can more easily see St Louis and Kansas City are the ONLY teams outside the top 14 metro areas to win a championship and the Mets and Blue Jays are the only teams inside the top 14 metro areas not to win a championship.
NYY 2592 1838 .585 000.0 4 (#1)
NYM 2243 2189 .506 350.0 0 (#1)
LAD 2492 1942 .562 102.0 3 (#2)
LAA 2261 2173 .510 333.0 1 (#2)
CHC 2218 2215 .500 375.5 1 (#3)
CWS 2126 2307 .480 467.5 1 (#3)
TEX 2201 2234 .496 393.5 1 (#4)
HOU 2315 2117 .522 278.0 2 (#5)
MIA 2028 2401 .458 563.5 1 (#6)
WAS 2077 2355 .469 516.0 1 (#7)
ATL 2437 1993 .550 155.0 1 (#8)
PHI 2267 2166 .511 326.5 1 (#9)
TOR 2243 2190 .506 350.5 0 (#10)
ARI 2167 2267 .489 427.0 1 (#11)
BOS 2420 2013 .546 173.5 4 (#12)
#13 is Riverside–San Bernardino–Ontario
SFG 2307 2125 .521 286.0 3 (#14)
DET 2062 2365 .466 528.5 0 (#15)
#16 is Montreal
SEA 2220 2213 .501 373.5 0 (#17)
MIN 2186 2246 .493 407.0 0 (#18)
TAM 2168 2264 .489 425.0 0 (#19)
SDP 2151 2284 .485 443.5 0 (#20)
COL 2001 2434 .451 593.5 0 (#21)
BAL 2037 2395 .460 556.0 0 (#24)
STL 2415 2015 .545 177.0 2 (#25)
PIT 1985 2443 .448 606.0 0 (#31)
Athl 2267 2165 .512 326.0 0 (#32)
CIN 2117 2318 .477 477.5 0 (#33)
KCR 1955 2477 .441 638.0 1 (#34)
CLE 2320 2111 .524 272.5 0 (#36)
MIL 2205 2228 .497 388.5 0 (#43)
Inferior fans in smaller cities or insufficient resources make it nearly impossible to win in a smaller city? You decide.