Dustin May

[Midrange Jay]

I'm a big fan of finally signing guys that can be dealt at the deadline if they turn in a strong 1st half. If he stinks, it's just a 1 year deal, so nothing lost.

+1 definitely beats signing a guy like mikolas who has limited upside

Agreed. In the past, guys like Lynn and Gibson would have never gotten us much at the deadline. I'd much rather sign guys like May, especially for the upcoming season or 2, who could pay off huge at the deadline. Never understood why Mo didn't do this.

How is May any better than Lynn or Gibson?

“ After scuffling through 19 appearances with L.A., he battled injuries and poor performance with the Red Sox. May set career highs in innings (132 1/3) and games (25) last season, but posted an unsightly 4.96 ERA with an xFIP and SIERA in the mid-4.00s.”

He's 28 and has upside. How old were Gibson and Lynn when we signed them? Both had limited to no upside.

Also, last year was the first year back after the flexor tendon surgery, even though it was done in 23, he had the esophagus tear in 24. So one would expect his numbers to not be the greatest in his first year back pitching.

He had never pitched more than 56 innings before last season.

Your point? Liberatore had a high of 86 until last year. May was severely injured for many of his years in the MLB, so of course his innings would be low. May pitched 132 innings last year while Liberatore pitched 150 innings last year. No reason that May cannot build on his 132 if his health allows.

May has also been in the majors for 3 more seasons than Liberatore. I don’t mind counting on May as a reliever, but he is a crapshoot at SP.

[Melville]

I'm a big fan of finally signing guys that can be dealt at the deadline if they turn in a strong 1st half. If he stinks, it's just a 1 year deal, so nothing lost.

+1 definitely beats signing a guy like mikolas who has limited upside

Agreed. In the past, guys like Lynn and Gibson would have never gotten us much at the deadline. I'd much rather sign guys like May, especially for the upcoming season or 2, who could pay off huge at the deadline. Never understood why Mo didn't do this.

How is May any better than Lynn or Gibson?

“ After scuffling through 19 appearances with L.A., he battled injuries and poor performance with the Red Sox. May set career highs in innings (132 1/3) and games (25) last season, but posted an unsightly 4.96 ERA with an xFIP and SIERA in the mid-4.00s.”

He's 28 and has upside. How old were Gibson and Lynn when we signed them? Both had limited to no upside.

Also, last year was the first year back after the flexor tendon surgery, even though it was done in 23, he had the esophagus tear in 24. So one would expect his numbers to not be the greatest in his first year back pitching.

He had never pitched more than 56 innings before last season.

Your point? Liberatore had a high of 86 until last year. May was severely injured for many of his years in the MLB, so of course his innings would be low. May pitched 132 innings last year while Liberatore pitched 150 innings last year. No reason that May cannot build on his 132 if his health allows.

May has also been in the majors for 3 more seasons than Liberatore. I don’t mind counting on May as a reliever, but he is a crapshoot at SP.

Better to bet on him than Pallante.
May does not need to be a top of the rotation arm.
Just better than Pallante - which is a ridiculously low bar.

[ecleme22]

They have to have a remotely competitive team. People know it wont be winning baseball, but nobody wants to pay to see a White Sox, Colorado level disaster, either.

It’s not exactly like that.

They simply need arms. And they wanna find guys with high up sides that they could trade at the deadline.

No, they didn’t sign Dustin May because they’re trying to win 80 games and increase their attendance…

[mattmitchl44]

I'm a big fan of finally signing guys that can be dealt at the deadline if they turn in a strong 1st half. If he stinks, it's just a 1 year deal, so nothing lost.

+1 definitely beats signing a guy like mikolas who has limited upside

Agreed. In the past, guys like Lynn and Gibson would have never gotten us much at the deadline. I'd much rather sign guys like May, especially for the upcoming season or 2, who could pay off huge at the deadline. Never understood why Mo didn't do this.

How is May any better than Lynn or Gibson?

“ After scuffling through 19 appearances with L.A., he battled injuries and poor performance with the Red Sox. May set career highs in innings (132 1/3) and games (25) last season, but posted an unsightly 4.96 ERA with an xFIP and SIERA in the mid-4.00s.”

He's 28 and has upside. How old were Gibson and Lynn when we signed them? Both had limited to no upside.

Also, last year was the first year back after the flexor tendon surgery, even though it was done in 23, he had the esophagus tear in 24. So one would expect his numbers to not be the greatest in his first year back pitching.

He had never pitched more than 56 innings before last season.

Your point? Liberatore had a high of 86 until last year. May was severely injured for many of his years in the MLB, so of course his innings would be low. May pitched 132 innings last year while Liberatore pitched 150 innings last year. No reason that May cannot build on his 132 if his health allows.

May has also been in the majors for 3 more seasons than Liberatore. I don’t mind counting on May as a reliever, but he is a crapshoot at SP.

And that's fine. Take what should be a relatively cheap gamble on him finally realizing what was thought to be his potential.

[Web7]

I wanted him at last years trade deadline….0f course the usual simpleton’s on here ridiculed me for it

Because it was a dumb idea. You also wanted to sign him to an extension, which is even dumber.

This, however, is a good signing.

You conveniently left out the part where if he pitched well at the end of last year, you could sign into an extension….thats what we expect from you …

[Midrange Jay]

I'm a big fan of finally signing guys that can be dealt at the deadline if they turn in a strong 1st half. If he stinks, it's just a 1 year deal, so nothing lost.

+1 definitely beats signing a guy like mikolas who has limited upside

Agreed. In the past, guys like Lynn and Gibson would have never gotten us much at the deadline. I'd much rather sign guys like May, especially for the upcoming season or 2, who could pay off huge at the deadline. Never understood why Mo didn't do this.

How is May any better than Lynn or Gibson?

“ After scuffling through 19 appearances with L.A., he battled injuries and poor performance with the Red Sox. May set career highs in innings (132 1/3) and games (25) last season, but posted an unsightly 4.96 ERA with an xFIP and SIERA in the mid-4.00s.”

He's 28 and has upside. How old were Gibson and Lynn when we signed them? Both had limited to no upside.

Also, last year was the first year back after the flexor tendon surgery, even though it was done in 23, he had the esophagus tear in 24. So one would expect his numbers to not be the greatest in his first year back pitching.

He had never pitched more than 56 innings before last season.

Your point? Liberatore had a high of 86 until last year. May was severely injured for many of his years in the MLB, so of course his innings would be low. May pitched 132 innings last year while Liberatore pitched 150 innings last year. No reason that May cannot build on his 132 if his health allows.

May has also been in the majors for 3 more seasons than Liberatore. I don’t mind counting on May as a reliever, but he is a crapshoot at SP.

Better to bet on him than Pallante.
May does not need to be a top of the rotation arm.
Just better than Pallante - which is a ridiculously low bar.

Wins Over Pallante/Mikolas seems to be the new standard.

[hornetfb52]

May > Pallante
McGreevy > Mikolas
Fitts > Fedde
Hopefully 2026 Liberatore > 2025 Liberatore

4/5 of the rotation is better…gettin my World Series tickets ordered immediately

[zuck698]

https://www.ocregister.com/2024/07/13/d ... h-in-2024/

Well I know one guy who is happy about the signing, and that is Bill DeWitt III. I imagine his head is about to explode thinking of all the Raggedy Ann Night at the ballpark give aways.

[RamFan08NY]

Dustin May is one of the arms a few of us here have previously stated that Bloom should sign.
Appears Bloom is doing precisely as I advised: add short erm talent to give the team a chance to compete for a W/C in 2026 while adding quality high ceiling prospect talent for the long haul.
Bloom has done that on the pitching side of the equation.
Now time for him to do as I advise on the position player side of the roster.

Good call Melville. When I saw that they signed him I immediately remembered a few of you putting him on your wish list. Good signing. Finally signing guys under 35 with a high cieling potential.

[JuanAgosto]

https://www.ocregister.com/2024/07/13/d ... h-in-2024/

Well I know one guy who is happy about the signing, and that is Bill DeWitt III. I imagine his head is about to explode thinking of all the Raggedy Ann Night at the ballpark give aways.

Hahahaha. Hes already got Girsch on it!

[earp]

St. Louis was in desperate need of rotation depth
A 3 inning start pitcher----well thinking about it, that's what we had last year
I don't think this is a innings pitcher, kinda remember that need spoken by someone in management, of the Cardinals’ championship legacy!

[dugoutrex]

We got our ace!

[C-Unit]

I wanted him at last years trade deadline….0f course the usual simpleton’s on here ridiculed me for it

Because it was a dumb idea. You also wanted to sign him to an extension, which is even dumber.

This, however, is a good signing.

You conveniently left out the part where if he pitched well at the end of last year, you could sign into an extension….thats what we expect from you …

I could leave out that you are one dumb (buzz). It's already proven. But I would like to say it anyway. You are one dumb (buzz).

[hmoss859]

Welcome to Cardinal Nation, Carrot Top!

[craviduce]

Good...we may not have to suffer through meaningful starter innings from Kyle Leahy. Just because he excelled at relieving, doesn't mean he can be a starter.

Welcome, Dustin May....try not to sneeze too hard. If you stay healthy and under 5.00 ERA, we may be able to flip you at the deadline for middling prospect. Perform better, then we'll flip you for a 45 rated prospect or two.

[hmoss859]

Dustin May is one of the arms a few of us here have previously stated that Bloom should sign.
Appears Bloom is doing precisely as I advised: add short erm talent to give the team a chance to compete for a W/C in 2026 while adding quality high ceiling prospect talent for the long haul.
Bloom has done that on the pitching side of the equation.
Now time for him to do as I advise on the position player side of the roster.

I'm afraid Mel that Bloom is not going to improve the offense, just subtract from it.

Donovan
Contreas
Arenado
Nootbaar
Gorman (Highly doubtful he has little trade value now)

It appears that Herrera will get some run at catcher after Bloom's comments this week. Not sure how that pans out