swatski wrote: ↑25 Oct 2025 07:06 am
Absolutely worth the risk in bringing him back assuming the contract is reasonable. Young with a great arm, velocity and breaking ball. Loves the team and the city.
No. CT always wants ex-Cards back. I don't get it. He has one great year
When was that one year? 2022 - 1.25 ERA and 0.74 WHIP, an all-star appearance and 12th in CY Young voting? or when he set the Cards single season save record in 2024? Or did you mean 2023 when he had a 2.45 ERA? Bombed with the Mets in half of this season, but had 21 saves and a 3.00 with us.
Career ERA still under 3 after 7 seasons, yet only one good year?
I like Helsley, but he'll be 31 and this is maybe the only time he'll have a chance at getting a big money deal. He would be smart and take the biggest deal he's offered.
Although there's a chance that last year ended so bad for him that he has to settle for a 1 year deal. I guess if that's the case and if the money was right, it couldn't hurt to bring him back. You could always trade him at the deadline again.
swatski wrote: ↑25 Oct 2025 07:06 am
Absolutely worth the risk in bringing him back assuming the contract is reasonable. Young with a great arm, velocity and breaking ball. Loves the team and the city.
ecleme22 wrote: ↑25 Oct 2025 18:52 pm
Hensley can be a really good get for a playoff team wanting to grab a really good arm on a one year deal.
Problem w Helsley, is his Mets era will make teams buyer beware if a team wants to flip him in 2026.
So if the Bo Sox want to give him 8mil next year as a setup guy, let that happen. Move on…
Agree he will definitely get 8 million plus if the cardinals are gambling on their limited budget I hope it’s for starters coming off injuries who have high upside instead of a potential closer who they don’t need
ecleme22 wrote: ↑25 Oct 2025 18:52 pm
Hensley can be a really good get for a playoff team wanting to grab a really good arm on a one year deal.
Problem w Helsley, is his Mets era will make teams buyer beware if a team wants to flip him in 2026.
So if the Bo Sox want to give him 8mil next year as a setup guy, let that happen. Move on…
Agree he will definitely get 8 million plus if the cardinals are gambling on their limited budget I hope it’s for starters coming off injuries who have high upside instead of a potential closer who they don’t need
Helsley would be a decent flippable option. Trouble is, 2025 happened. Not sure gms want to go there. Or at least give up a nice return.
I’m down for a high reward guy. Possibly Devin Williams? But Helsley, no.
ecleme22 wrote: ↑25 Oct 2025 18:52 pm
Hensley can be a really good get for a playoff team wanting to grab a really good arm on a one year deal.
Problem w Helsley, is his Mets era will make teams buyer beware if a team wants to flip him in 2026.
So if the Bo Sox want to give him 8mil next year as a setup guy, let that happen. Move on…
Agree he will definitely get 8 million plus if the cardinals are gambling on their limited budget I hope it’s for starters coming off injuries who have high upside instead of a potential closer who they don’t need
Helsley would be a decent flippable option. Trouble is, 2025 happened. Not sure gms want to go there. Or at least give up a nice return.
I’m down for a high reward guy. Possibly Devin Williams? But Helsley, no.
Devin Williams?! 4.79 ERA. Made $9 million last year
ecleme22 wrote: ↑25 Oct 2025 18:52 pm
Hensley can be a really good get for a playoff team wanting to grab a really good arm on a one year deal.
Problem w Helsley, is his Mets era will make teams buyer beware if a team wants to flip him in 2026.
So if the Bo Sox want to give him 8mil next year as a setup guy, let that happen. Move on…
Agree he will definitely get 8 million plus if the cardinals are gambling on their limited budget I hope it’s for starters coming off injuries who have high upside instead of a potential closer who they don’t need
Helsley would be a decent flippable option. Trouble is, 2025 happened. Not sure gms want to go there. Or at least give up a nice return.
I’m down for a high reward guy. Possibly Devin Williams? But Helsley, no.
Devin Williams?! 4.79 ERA. Made $9 million last year
Not gonna happen
What’s your logic?
Because the numbers you gave could imply his cost will be a lot lower in 2026…
Devin Williams?! 4.79 ERA. Made $9 million last year