Ryan Helsley

[scoutyjones2]

Absolutely worth the risk in bringing him back assuming the contract is reasonable. Young with a great arm, velocity and breaking ball. Loves the team and the city.

No. CT always wants ex-Cards back. I don't get it. He has one great year

When was that one year? 2022 - 1.25 ERA and 0.74 WHIP, an all-star appearance and 12th in CY Young voting? or when he set the Cards single season save record in 2024? Or did you mean 2023 when he had a 2.45 ERA? Bombed with the Mets in half of this season, but had 21 saves and a 3.00 with us.

Career ERA still under 3 after 7 seasons, yet only one good year?

4.5 ERA and a 1.536 WHIP last year.


Prior year was a career great year.

He threw 36 innings in 2023

[Ronnie Dobbs]

I like Helsley, but he'll be 31 and this is maybe the only time he'll have a chance at getting a big money deal. He would be smart and take the biggest deal he's offered.

Although there's a chance that last year ended so bad for him that he has to settle for a 1 year deal. I guess if that's the case and if the money was right, it couldn't hurt to bring him back. You could always trade him at the deadline again.

[JuanAgosto]

I'd be more interested in Maton than Helsley. And that interest is light.

[No-Mo-Mo]

Absolutely worth the risk in bringing him back assuming the contract is reasonable. Young with a great arm, velocity and breaking ball. Loves the team and the city.

Absolutely Not

[ecleme22]

Hensley can be a really good get for a playoff team wanting to grab a really good arm on a one year deal.

Problem w Helsley, is his Mets era will make teams buyer beware if a team wants to flip him in 2026.

So if the Bo Sox want to give him 8mil next year as a setup guy, let that happen. Move on…

[Ozziesfan41]

Hensley can be a really good get for a playoff team wanting to grab a really good arm on a one year deal.

Problem w Helsley, is his Mets era will make teams buyer beware if a team wants to flip him in 2026.

So if the Bo Sox want to give him 8mil next year as a setup guy, let that happen. Move on…

Agree he will definitely get 8 million plus if the cardinals are gambling on their limited budget I hope it’s for starters coming off injuries who have high upside instead of a potential closer who they don’t need

[ecleme22]

Hensley can be a really good get for a playoff team wanting to grab a really good arm on a one year deal.

Problem w Helsley, is his Mets era will make teams buyer beware if a team wants to flip him in 2026.

So if the Bo Sox want to give him 8mil next year as a setup guy, let that happen. Move on…

Agree he will definitely get 8 million plus if the cardinals are gambling on their limited budget I hope it’s for starters coming off injuries who have high upside instead of a potential closer who they don’t need

Helsley would be a decent flippable option. Trouble is, 2025 happened. Not sure gms want to go there. Or at least give up a nice return.

I’m down for a high reward guy. Possibly Devin Williams? But Helsley, no.

[cardsrmyteam]

Hope is not a strategy and nostalgia does not win championships. He's gone, let's get over it.

[scoutyjones2]

Hensley can be a really good get for a playoff team wanting to grab a really good arm on a one year deal.

Problem w Helsley, is his Mets era will make teams buyer beware if a team wants to flip him in 2026.

So if the Bo Sox want to give him 8mil next year as a setup guy, let that happen. Move on…

Agree he will definitely get 8 million plus if the cardinals are gambling on their limited budget I hope it’s for starters coming off injuries who have high upside instead of a potential closer who they don’t need

Helsley would be a decent flippable option. Trouble is, 2025 happened. Not sure gms want to go there. Or at least give up a nice return.

I’m down for a high reward guy. Possibly Devin Williams? But Helsley, no.

Devin Williams?! 4.79 ERA. Made $9 million last year

Not gonna happen

[ecleme22]

Hensley can be a really good get for a playoff team wanting to grab a really good arm on a one year deal.

Problem w Helsley, is his Mets era will make teams buyer beware if a team wants to flip him in 2026.

So if the Bo Sox want to give him 8mil next year as a setup guy, let that happen. Move on…

Agree he will definitely get 8 million plus if the cardinals are gambling on their limited budget I hope it’s for starters coming off injuries who have high upside instead of a potential closer who they don’t need

Helsley would be a decent flippable option. Trouble is, 2025 happened. Not sure gms want to go there. Or at least give up a nice return.

I’m down for a high reward guy. Possibly Devin Williams? But Helsley, no.

Devin Williams?! 4.79 ERA. Made $9 million last year

Not gonna happen

What’s your logic?

Because the numbers you gave could imply his cost will be a lot lower in 2026…

[Carp4Cy]

If we are indeed in a rebuild, why are we not turning the closer and setup roles over to O’Brien and Svanson?

If that’s the case, why do you want Helsley back at at price?

This is a mindset shift from the past of trying to be half contenders to get 80 plus wins. Need to go all in with a rebuild and bank on development and high draft picks over wins for next season.

Can Svanson hit 103?

No but according to Baseball Savant he:

-hits 96.8 mph (86% tile)
-posted a 29.1% strikeout rate (88% tile)

39 G
1.94 ERA
0.88 WHiP

And all that came at $760,000!

Not sure that’s closer material. The league is gonna figure out 97 a lot faster then they figure out 103.

[rockondlouie]

If we are indeed in a rebuild, why are we not turning the closer and setup roles over to O’Brien and Svanson?

If that’s the case, why do you want Helsley back at at price?

This is a mindset shift from the past of trying to be half contenders to get 80 plus wins. Need to go all in with a rebuild and bank on development and high draft picks over wins for next season.

Can Svanson hit 103?

No but according to Baseball Savant he:

-hits 96.8 mph (86% tile)
-posted a 29.1% strikeout rate (88% tile)

39 G
1.94 ERA
0.88 WHiP

And all that came at $760,000!

Not sure that’s closer material. The league is gonna figure out 97 a lot faster then they figure out 103.

He may not be the 2026 solo closer, I foresee a bullen by committee approach.

Movement is just as important as velo and he's got some solid movement on his pitches.

I wouldn't get so hung up on 103 mph velo (not even sure Helsley will hold that top speed much longer).

Even at that speed hitters can time it if it's straight.