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Re: Outfield

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Cranny wrote: 08 Oct 2025 12:07 pm
Bomber1 wrote: 08 Oct 2025 09:35 am
Cranny wrote: 08 Oct 2025 08:04 am
JuanAgosto wrote: 07 Oct 2025 23:46 pm The StL outfield production has sucked for 3 years. There has not been a legitimate bat out there since Bader and O'Neill. And pud Marmol couldn't stand them. So we end up with the current nonsense of Nootbaar, Scott, and Walker.

Walker looks like baseball is some foreign sport to him.
Scott thinks he's a star but in reality, he sucks.
Nootbaar's most noteworthy action is falling off a rail and landing on IR.

Great work, John boy and Oli. You two dumb[ash] created this (bleep) show.
That’s the spirit, JA. Get it all out so you feel better.
I notice you completely ignored the content of Juan’s post which was completely accurate.
I ignore anyone who says Bader was a legitimate bat.
Bader was and is more legitimate than Nootbaar, Scott and Walker. Your hero was a lazy dumb[ash] when it came to roster construction. And the manager was hired because he is a powerless pud who wouldn't push for better players.
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Re: Outfield

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JuanAgosto wrote: 08 Oct 2025 12:12 pm
Cranny wrote: 08 Oct 2025 12:07 pm
Bomber1 wrote: 08 Oct 2025 09:35 am
Cranny wrote: 08 Oct 2025 08:04 am
JuanAgosto wrote: 07 Oct 2025 23:46 pm The StL outfield production has sucked for 3 years. There has not been a legitimate bat out there since Bader and O'Neill. And pud Marmol couldn't stand them. So we end up with the current nonsense of Nootbaar, Scott, and Walker.

Walker looks like baseball is some foreign sport to him.
Scott thinks he's a star but in reality, he sucks.
Nootbaar's most noteworthy action is falling off a rail and landing on IR.

Great work, John boy and Oli. You two dumb[ash] created this (bleep) show.
That’s the spirit, JA. Get it all out so you feel better.
I notice you completely ignored the content of Juan’s post which was completely accurate.
I ignore anyone who says Bader was a legitimate bat.
Bader was and is more legitimate than Nootbaar, Scott and Walker. Your hero was a lazy dumb[ash] when it came to roster construction. And the manager was hired because he is a powerless pud who wouldn't push for better players.

Bader had a .673 OPS his last year with the Cardinals. O’Neill
had a .715 OPS his last year with the Cardinals. Perhaps we have different definitions of a “legitimate bat”.
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Re: Outfield

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JuanAgosto wrote: 08 Oct 2025 12:12 pm
Cranny wrote: 08 Oct 2025 12:07 pm
Bomber1 wrote: 08 Oct 2025 09:35 am
Cranny wrote: 08 Oct 2025 08:04 am
JuanAgosto wrote: 07 Oct 2025 23:46 pm The StL outfield production has sucked for 3 years. There has not been a legitimate bat out there since Bader and O'Neill. And pud Marmol couldn't stand them. So we end up with the current nonsense of Nootbaar, Scott, and Walker.

Walker looks like baseball is some foreign sport to him.
Scott thinks he's a star but in reality, he sucks.
Nootbaar's most noteworthy action is falling off a rail and landing on IR.

Great work, John boy and Oli. You two dumb[ash] created this (bleep) show.
That’s the spirit, JA. Get it all out so you feel better.
I notice you completely ignored the content of Juan’s post which was completely accurate.
I ignore anyone who says Bader was a legitimate bat.
Bader was and is more legitimate than Nootbaar, Scott and Walker. Your hero was a lazy dumb[ash] when it came to roster construction. And the manager was hired because he is a powerless pud who wouldn't push for better players.
Are you putting too much weight on HB's 2025?

I don't think many would really think much was missed in his time with NYY, NYM, and Reds.
HB was very 2025 VS2 like. Nootbaar until 2025 always outhit him.
TO plays over 100 games x2 out of 8 seasons and gets a $50 million contract.
Balt error.IMO,


MO has made too many errors is an understatement especially in addressing the outfield.
Players outproducing VS2 and JW consist of most of the league to date.
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Re: Outfield

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Dodgers:
Expected to sign Kyle Tucker to a massive deal projected at 10 years, $410 million. He’d slot into right field, pushing Teoscar Hernández to left

Cards:
nothing expected
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Re: Outfield

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Cranny wrote: 08 Oct 2025 12:20 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: 08 Oct 2025 12:12 pm
Cranny wrote: 08 Oct 2025 12:07 pm
Bomber1 wrote: 08 Oct 2025 09:35 am
Cranny wrote: 08 Oct 2025 08:04 am
JuanAgosto wrote: 07 Oct 2025 23:46 pm The StL outfield production has sucked for 3 years. There has not been a legitimate bat out there since Bader and O'Neill. And pud Marmol couldn't stand them. So we end up with the current nonsense of Nootbaar, Scott, and Walker.

Walker looks like baseball is some foreign sport to him.
Scott thinks he's a star but in reality, he sucks.
Nootbaar's most noteworthy action is falling off a rail and landing on IR.

Great work, John boy and Oli. You two dumb[ash] created this (bleep) show.
That’s the spirit, JA. Get it all out so you feel better.
I notice you completely ignored the content of Juan’s post which was completely accurate.
I ignore anyone who says Bader was a legitimate bat.
Bader was and is more legitimate than Nootbaar, Scott and Walker. Your hero was a lazy dumb[ash] when it came to roster construction. And the manager was hired because he is a powerless pud who wouldn't push for better players.

Bader had a .673 OPS his last year with the Cardinals. O’Neill
had a .715 OPS his last year with the Cardinals. Perhaps we have different definitions of a “legitimate bat”.
How many times have the murderers row of Nootbaar, Scott and Walker hit 30 hrs? How many top 10 mvp seasons? How many Gold Gloves? O'Neill and Bader were hands-down better.
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Re: Outfield

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JuanAgosto wrote: 07 Oct 2025 23:46 pm The StL outfield production has sucked for 3 years. There has not been a legitimate bat out there since Bader and O'Neill. And pud Marmol couldn't stand them. So we end up with the current nonsense of Nootbaar, Scott, and Walker.

Walker looks like baseball is some foreign sport to him.
Scott thinks he's a star but in reality, he sucks.
Nootbaar's most noteworthy action is falling off a rail and landing on IR.

Great work, John boy and Oli. You two dumb[ash] created this (bleep) show.
you had me ROFL on that one.
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Re: Outfield

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At this point, I would rather see Joshua Baez in RF over Walker. 20Hr would be nice out of RF. Not sure where the farm is going with outfield development. I would think Bloom and staf could come up with a plan to get better production.
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Re: Outfield

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JuanAgosto wrote: 08 Oct 2025 16:18 pm
Cranny wrote: 08 Oct 2025 12:20 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: 08 Oct 2025 12:12 pm
Cranny wrote: 08 Oct 2025 12:07 pm
Bomber1 wrote: 08 Oct 2025 09:35 am
Cranny wrote: 08 Oct 2025 08:04 am
JuanAgosto wrote: 07 Oct 2025 23:46 pm The StL outfield production has sucked for 3 years. There has not been a legitimate bat out there since Bader and O'Neill. And pud Marmol couldn't stand them. So we end up with the current nonsense of Nootbaar, Scott, and Walker.

Walker looks like baseball is some foreign sport to him.
Scott thinks he's a star but in reality, he sucks.
Nootbaar's most noteworthy action is falling off a rail and landing on IR.

Great work, John boy and Oli. You two dumb[ash] created this (bleep) show.
That’s the spirit, JA. Get it all out so you feel better.
I notice you completely ignored the content of Juan’s post which was completely accurate.
I ignore anyone who says Bader was a legitimate bat.
Bader was and is more legitimate than Nootbaar, Scott and Walker. Your hero was a lazy dumb[ash] when it came to roster construction. And the manager was hired because he is a powerless pud who wouldn't push for better players.

Bader had a .673 OPS his last year with the Cardinals. O’Neill
had a .715 OPS his last year with the Cardinals. Perhaps we have different definitions of a “legitimate bat”.
How many times have the murderers row of Nootbaar, Scott and Walker hit 30 hrs? How many top 10 mvp seasons? How many Gold Gloves? O'Neill and Bader were hands-down better.
What does that have to do with “legitimate bats”?
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Re: Outfield

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Cranny wrote: 08 Oct 2025 18:47 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: 08 Oct 2025 16:18 pm
Cranny wrote: 08 Oct 2025 12:20 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: 08 Oct 2025 12:12 pm
Cranny wrote: 08 Oct 2025 12:07 pm
Bomber1 wrote: 08 Oct 2025 09:35 am
Cranny wrote: 08 Oct 2025 08:04 am
JuanAgosto wrote: 07 Oct 2025 23:46 pm The StL outfield production has sucked for 3 years. There has not been a legitimate bat out there since Bader and O'Neill. And pud Marmol couldn't stand them. So we end up with the current nonsense of Nootbaar, Scott, and Walker.

Walker looks like baseball is some foreign sport to him.
Scott thinks he's a star but in reality, he sucks.
Nootbaar's most noteworthy action is falling off a rail and landing on IR.

Great work, John boy and Oli. You two dumb[ash] created this (bleep) show.
That’s the spirit, JA. Get it all out so you feel better.
I notice you completely ignored the content of Juan’s post which was completely accurate.
I ignore anyone who says Bader was a legitimate bat.
Bader was and is more legitimate than Nootbaar, Scott and Walker. Your hero was a lazy dumb[ash] when it came to roster construction. And the manager was hired because he is a powerless pud who wouldn't push for better players.

Bader had a .673 OPS his last year with the Cardinals. O’Neill
had a .715 OPS his last year with the Cardinals. Perhaps we have different definitions of a “legitimate bat”.
How many times have the murderers row of Nootbaar, Scott and Walker hit 30 hrs? How many top 10 mvp seasons? How many Gold Gloves? O'Neill and Bader were hands-down better.
What does that have to do with “legitimate bats”?
O'Neill accomplished each of those feats. Bader won a Gold Glove. The current group that Mozeliak accumulated and Marmol trots out there couldn't sniff those totals.
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Re: Outfield

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82birds wrote: 08 Oct 2025 16:50 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: 07 Oct 2025 23:46 pm The StL outfield production has sucked for 3 years. There has not been a legitimate bat out there since Bader and O'Neill. And pud Marmol couldn't stand them. So we end up with the current nonsense of Nootbaar, Scott, and Walker.

Walker looks like baseball is some foreign sport to him.
Scott thinks he's a star but in reality, he sucks.
Nootbaar's most noteworthy action is falling off a rail and landing on IR.

Great work, John boy and Oli. You two dumb[ash] created this (bleep) show.
you had me ROFL on that one.
Hahahaha. Its sad, but true. I've never seen a major leaguer look so lost.
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Re: Outfield

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JuanAgosto wrote: 08 Oct 2025 19:19 pm
82birds wrote: 08 Oct 2025 16:50 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: 07 Oct 2025 23:46 pm The StL outfield production has sucked for 3 years. There has not been a legitimate bat out there since Bader and O'Neill. And pud Marmol couldn't stand them. So we end up with the current nonsense of Nootbaar, Scott, and Walker.

Walker looks like baseball is some foreign sport to him.
Scott thinks he's a star but in reality, he sucks.
Nootbaar's most noteworthy action is falling off a rail and landing on IR.

Great work, John boy and Oli. You two dumb[ash] created this (bleep) show.
you had me ROFL on that one.
Hahahaha. Its sad, but true. I've never seen a major leaguer look so lost.
I have memories of Cardinals baseball since the mid 70’s…..I can not remember a more inept, talentless, non-productive OF than what we’ve seen the last couple years here. It’s embarrassing and confusing how the what used to be the most athletic and talent positions could degraded so much and this organization not being able to find 3 athletes to position out there who don’t look like they should be in semi pro ball somewhere
Mid late 70’s
Brock
Tony Scott
Reggie Smith
80’s
Hendrick
Lonnie Smith
McGee
Coleman
Van Slyke
‘90’s
Lankford
Gilkey
Gant
2000’s
Edmonds
Sanders
Walker
Holiday
Berkman
Beltran
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Re: Outfield

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Goldfan wrote: 08 Oct 2025 19:45 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: 08 Oct 2025 19:19 pm
82birds wrote: 08 Oct 2025 16:50 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: 07 Oct 2025 23:46 pm The StL outfield production has sucked for 3 years. There has not been a legitimate bat out there since Bader and O'Neill. And pud Marmol couldn't stand them. So we end up with the current nonsense of Nootbaar, Scott, and Walker.

Walker looks like baseball is some foreign sport to him.
Scott thinks he's a star but in reality, he sucks.
Nootbaar's most noteworthy action is falling off a rail and landing on IR.

Great work, John boy and Oli. You two dumb[ash] created this (bleep) show.
you had me ROFL on that one.
Hahahaha. Its sad, but true. I've never seen a major leaguer look so lost.
I have memories of Cardinals baseball since the mid 70’s…..I can not remember a more inept, talentless, non-productive OF than what we’ve seen the last couple years here. It’s embarrassing and confusing how the what used to be the most athletic and talent positions could degraded so much and this organization not being able to find 3 athletes to position out there who don’t look like they should be in semi pro ball somewhere
Mid late 70’s
Brock
Tony Scott
Reggie Smith
80’s
Hendrick
Lonnie Smith
McGee
Coleman
Van Slyke
‘90’s
Lankford
Gilkey
Gant
2000’s
Edmonds
Sanders
Walker
Holiday
Berkman
Beltran
Pathetic how Mozeliak wrecked this roster.
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Re: Outfield

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Cranny wrote: 08 Oct 2025 12:07 pm
Bomber1 wrote: 08 Oct 2025 09:35 am
Cranny wrote: 08 Oct 2025 08:04 am
JuanAgosto wrote: 07 Oct 2025 23:46 pm The StL outfield production has sucked for 3 years. There has not been a legitimate bat out there since Bader and O'Neill. And pud Marmol couldn't stand them. So we end up with the current nonsense of Nootbaar, Scott, and Walker.

Walker looks like baseball is some foreign sport to him.
Scott thinks he's a star but in reality, he sucks.
Nootbaar's most noteworthy action is falling off a rail and landing on IR.

Great work, John boy and Oli. You two dumb[ash] created this (bleep) show.
That’s the spirit, JA. Get it all out so you feel better.
I notice you completely ignored the content of Juan’s post which was completely accurate.
I ignore anyone who says Bader was a legitimate bat.
They’re not making a bust of Bader for the HOF, but he’s better than any of the incumbent Cardinal outfielders. Are you still trying to justify your numerous mistakes, Mr. Mozo?
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Re: Outfield

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Hazelwood72 wrote: 08 Oct 2025 22:16 pm
Cranny wrote: 08 Oct 2025 12:07 pm
Bomber1 wrote: 08 Oct 2025 09:35 am
Cranny wrote: 08 Oct 2025 08:04 am
JuanAgosto wrote: 07 Oct 2025 23:46 pm The StL outfield production has sucked for 3 years. There has not been a legitimate bat out there since Bader and O'Neill. And pud Marmol couldn't stand them. So we end up with the current nonsense of Nootbaar, Scott, and Walker.

Walker looks like baseball is some foreign sport to him.
Scott thinks he's a star but in reality, he sucks.
Nootbaar's most noteworthy action is falling off a rail and landing on IR.

Great work, John boy and Oli. You two dumb[ash] created this (bleep) show.
That’s the spirit, JA. Get it all out so you feel better.
I notice you completely ignored the content of Juan’s post which was completely accurate.
I ignore anyone who says Bader was a legitimate bat.
They’re not making a bust of Bader for the HOF, but he’s better than any of the incumbent Cardinal outfielders. Are you still trying to justify your numerous mistakes, Mr. Mozo?
Bader? Put some mustard on him.
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Re: Outfield

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Cranny wrote: 10 Oct 2025 14:22 pm
Hazelwood72 wrote: 08 Oct 2025 22:16 pm
Cranny wrote: 08 Oct 2025 12:07 pm
Bomber1 wrote: 08 Oct 2025 09:35 am
Cranny wrote: 08 Oct 2025 08:04 am
JuanAgosto wrote: 07 Oct 2025 23:46 pm The StL outfield production has sucked for 3 years. There has not been a legitimate bat out there since Bader and O'Neill. And pud Marmol couldn't stand them. So we end up with the current nonsense of Nootbaar, Scott, and Walker.

Walker looks like baseball is some foreign sport to him.
Scott thinks he's a star but in reality, he sucks.
Nootbaar's most noteworthy action is falling off a rail and landing on IR.

Great work, John boy and Oli. You two dumb[ash] created this (bleep) show.
That’s the spirit, JA. Get it all out so you feel better.
I notice you completely ignored the content of Juan’s post which was completely accurate.
I ignore anyone who says Bader was a legitimate bat.
They’re not making a bust of Bader for the HOF, but he’s better than any of the incumbent Cardinal outfielders. Are you still trying to justify your numerous mistakes, Mr. Mozo?
Bader? Put some mustard on him.
The pitch clock put an end to his bat flip in-between pitches. I would have liked to have seen him face Bob Gibson.
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Re: Outfield

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Hazelwood72 wrote: 08 Oct 2025 22:16 pm
Cranny wrote: 08 Oct 2025 12:07 pm
Bomber1 wrote: 08 Oct 2025 09:35 am
Cranny wrote: 08 Oct 2025 08:04 am
JuanAgosto wrote: 07 Oct 2025 23:46 pm The StL outfield production has sucked for 3 years. There has not been a legitimate bat out there since Bader and O'Neill. And pud Marmol couldn't stand them. So we end up with the current nonsense of Nootbaar, Scott, and Walker.

Walker looks like baseball is some foreign sport to him.
Scott thinks he's a star but in reality, he sucks.
Nootbaar's most noteworthy action is falling off a rail and landing on IR.

Great work, John boy and Oli. You two dumb[ash] created this (bleep) show.
That’s the spirit, JA. Get it all out so you feel better.
I notice you completely ignored the content of Juan’s post which was completely accurate.
I ignore anyone who says Bader was a legitimate bat.
They’re not making a bust of Bader for the HOF, but he’s better than any of the incumbent Cardinal outfielders. Are you still trying to justify your numerous mistakes, Mr. Mozo?
lol it’s hilarious that people were saying bader sucks when he was here and trade him then they get rid of him he goes on to suck elsewhere for several years then has a good season this season at age 31 and people are like bader is awesome shouldn’t have got rid of him bring him back lol just remember if they dump Scott or church they may have break out seasons at age 31 and you will be complaining how stupid the cardinals were for getting rid of them
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