At least he got the best out of the players he had unlike Oli squashing all Motivation in T.O. And losing the club house.rockondlouie wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 10:35 amMatheny was nothing more than a passenger, inheriting a loaded team.....he was a horrible manager.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 10:31 amAgree on Oli. Matheny won a pennant. I can only wish for a manager that bad today.rockondlouie wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 10:26 amWhy I wasn't mad to see him canned, overrated by many.Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 06:39 amHe’s absolutely horrific in the playoffs.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 06:35 am Inherited great rosters both in St Louis and San Diego. 0-5 in the playoffs.
But looked good compared to Matheny and Oli.![]()
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Based upon Shildt's history in the post season I expected them to get swept. He exceeded expectations.dugoutrex wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 14:32 pmabout what I expected too - although I was hoping the Scrubs would sweep 'emicon wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 13:42 pmBlaming the manager when his team's biggest hitters flunked out is evidence of an anti-Shildt bias. The Padres won 1 of 3 on the road against a favored team. About what would be expected.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 12:45 pmWhat got him fired in St Louis reportedly was going on a local sports talk radio show and saying he did as well as could be expected given the lack of talent on the team. That's still the excuse?icon wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 10:35 amCome on. The Cubs are just a better team and they were playing at home all three games.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 06:35 am Inherited great rosters both in St Louis and San Diego. 0-5 in the playoffs.
San Diego's payroll is higher than the Cubs.
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Gross. I've never once hoped for the slightest bit of success for the Cubs, regardless of opponent.dugoutrex wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 14:32 pmabout what I expected too - although I was hoping the Scrubs would sweep 'emicon wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 13:42 pmBlaming the manager when his team's biggest hitters flunked out is evidence of an anti-Shildt bias. The Padres won 1 of 3 on the road against a favored team. About what would be expected.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 12:45 pmWhat got him fired in St Louis reportedly was going on a local sports talk radio show and saying he did as well as could be expected given the lack of talent on the team. That's still the excuse?icon wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 10:35 amCome on. The Cubs are just a better team and they were playing at home all three games.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 06:35 am Inherited great rosters both in St Louis and San Diego. 0-5 in the playoffs.
San Diego's payroll is higher than the Cubs.
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Bomber1 wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 12:06 pmWell played and true.ecleme22 wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 11:57 amI find it funny Scotch understands the concept of inheriting a solid roster except when it comes to Matheny.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 06:35 am Inherited great rosters both in St Louis and San Diego. 0-5 in the playoffs.

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I don't see much difference in the last 3 managers. Matheny probably did less with more. Oli wasted 15 war between Arenado and Goldy with a hot Pujols in the second half of 22. There's 2 common denominators. Mo hired them and no experience. Oh 3. They're all mediocre at best.
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12xu wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 07:30 am The Padres did not lose the playoff to the cubs because of Shildt. He handled his pitching staff well, and they were superb, holding the cubs to 6 runs in 3 games. He played the best lineup he had available.
The Padres lost the series primarily due to their first 3 batters in the lineup not coming thru. Tatis was 1 for 12, Arraez 2 for 11, Machado 1 for 10. All of their hits came in game 2, which the Padres won.



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Tatis who struck out struck out 129 times batted leadoff in all 3 games. In game 3 he was 0-4 with 3 strikeouts. Head scratcher.
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I don't give Matheny any credit for that, the stars were grizzled veterans.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 16:40 pmAt least he got the best out of the players he had unlike Oli squashing all Motivation in T.O. And losing the club house.rockondlouie wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 10:35 amMatheny was nothing more than a passenger, inheriting a loaded team.....he was a horrible manager.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 10:31 amAgree on Oli. Matheny won a pennant. I can only wish for a manager that bad today.rockondlouie wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 10:26 amWhy I wasn't mad to see him canned, overrated by many.Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 06:39 amHe’s absolutely horrific in the playoffs.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 06:35 am Inherited great rosters both in St Louis and San Diego. 0-5 in the playoffs.
But looked good compared to Matheny and Oli.![]()
But agree on Oli, he's a nothing.
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NonsenseCarp4Cy wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 16:40 pmAt least he got the best out of the players he had unlike Oli squashing all Motivation in T.O. And losing the club house.rockondlouie wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 10:35 amMatheny was nothing more than a passenger, inheriting a loaded team.....he was a horrible manager.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 10:31 amAgree on Oli. Matheny won a pennant. I can only wish for a manager that bad today.rockondlouie wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 10:26 amWhy I wasn't mad to see him canned, overrated by many.Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 06:39 amHe’s absolutely horrific in the playoffs.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 06:35 am Inherited great rosters both in St Louis and San Diego. 0-5 in the playoffs.
But looked good compared to Matheny and Oli.![]()
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Why do idiots hold the manager 100% responsible and not the players. Teams have bad games in critical situations. Not managers fault.
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I'll be rooting for those Scrubbies for 1 more series - I want them to show the brew crew the early hook!sdaltons wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 17:09 pmGross. I've never once hoped for the slightest bit of success for the Cubs, regardless of opponent.dugoutrex wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 14:32 pmabout what I expected too - although I was hoping the Scrubs would sweep 'emicon wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 13:42 pmBlaming the manager when his team's biggest hitters flunked out is evidence of an anti-Shildt bias. The Padres won 1 of 3 on the road against a favored team. About what would be expected.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 12:45 pmWhat got him fired in St Louis reportedly was going on a local sports talk radio show and saying he did as well as could be expected given the lack of talent on the team. That's still the excuse?icon wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 10:35 amCome on. The Cubs are just a better team and they were playing at home all three games.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 06:35 am Inherited great rosters both in St Louis and San Diego. 0-5 in the playoffs.
San Diego's payroll is higher than the Cubs.
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And we all know payroll is the only measuring stick. Not a smart takeScotchMIrish wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 12:45 pmWhat got him fired in St Louis reportedly was going on a local sports talk radio show and saying he did as well as could be expected given the lack of talent on the team. That's still the excuse?icon wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 10:35 amCome on. The Cubs are just a better team and they were playing at home all three games.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 06:35 am Inherited great rosters both in St Louis and San Diego. 0-5 in the playoffs.
San Diego's payroll is higher than the Cubs.
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Even grosser. Go Brewers!dugoutrex wrote: ↑04 Oct 2025 09:05 amI'll be rooting for those Scrubbies for 1 more series - I want them to show the brew crew the early hook!sdaltons wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 17:09 pmGross. I've never once hoped for the slightest bit of success for the Cubs, regardless of opponent.dugoutrex wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 14:32 pmabout what I expected too - although I was hoping the Scrubs would sweep 'emicon wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 13:42 pmBlaming the manager when his team's biggest hitters flunked out is evidence of an anti-Shildt bias. The Padres won 1 of 3 on the road against a favored team. About what would be expected.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 12:45 pmWhat got him fired in St Louis reportedly was going on a local sports talk radio show and saying he did as well as could be expected given the lack of talent on the team. That's still the excuse?icon wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 10:35 amCome on. The Cubs are just a better team and they were playing at home all three games.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 06:35 am Inherited great rosters both in St Louis and San Diego. 0-5 in the playoffs.
San Diego's payroll is higher than the Cubs.
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Cards Talk believes players win and managers lose. It's the mantra here.
Never blame the players, blame Oli. It's simple minded thinking.
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blah - I hate the [fork]ing brewerssdaltons wrote: ↑04 Oct 2025 09:22 amEven grosser. Go Brewers!dugoutrex wrote: ↑04 Oct 2025 09:05 amI'll be rooting for those Scrubbies for 1 more series - I want them to show the brew crew the early hook!sdaltons wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 17:09 pmGross. I've never once hoped for the slightest bit of success for the Cubs, regardless of opponent.dugoutrex wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 14:32 pmabout what I expected too - although I was hoping the Scrubs would sweep 'emicon wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 13:42 pmBlaming the manager when his team's biggest hitters flunked out is evidence of an anti-Shildt bias. The Padres won 1 of 3 on the road against a favored team. About what would be expected.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 12:45 pmWhat got him fired in St Louis reportedly was going on a local sports talk radio show and saying he did as well as could be expected given the lack of talent on the team. That's still the excuse?icon wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 10:35 amCome on. The Cubs are just a better team and they were playing at home all three games.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑03 Oct 2025 06:35 am Inherited great rosters both in St Louis and San Diego. 0-5 in the playoffs.
San Diego's payroll is higher than the Cubs.
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It’s simple minded to believe managers decisions have no impact on wins and losses. Look at what happened in may in may the oli fans were saying look at what a great job oli is doing he’s going to manager of the year everyone should apologize to oli then the cardinals suck again and they say it’s not his fault it’s the players lolcardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑04 Oct 2025 09:31 amCards Talk believes players win and managers lose. It's the mantra here.
Never blame the players, blame Oli. It's simple minded thinking.