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2forDiving wrote: 26 Sep 2025 12:56 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 26 Sep 2025 11:42 am
STL fan in MN wrote: 26 Sep 2025 11:31 am
a smell of green grass wrote: 26 Sep 2025 11:18 am What bothers me about the trade is the big picture.

Army and the Blues select later in the draft by choice. In that scenario, the ABSOLUTE VERY BEST that you can hope for is a Bolduc type player.

So what the Blues gave up is THE VERY BEST that we can hope for in the draft. Further, they gave up a player who was TRENDING UP on NHL ice. Bolduc was PROVEN. He was our Success Story. He was a young player that we all followed closely from draft day.

What did the Canadiens give up? They traded away an UNPROVEN player. They traded away a player that few looked up to in Montreal. They traded away a player that they selected later in the draft. Not only can Montreal draft BETTER than Mailloux, they HAVE DRAFTED HIGHER than Mailloux often.

Bolduc is GONE. The question now is HOW MANY MORE BOLDUCS are we going to be "GIVING AWAY" in the next 3 years--BECAUSE WE DON"T DRAFT HIGH IN THE DRAFT.

Anybody not PO'd about Bolduc is not paying attention. Anybody that doesn't see an ugly, nasty trend starting is not paying attention.
Counterpoint: we are paying attention but just see it much differently than you.

Draft position doesn’t matter much past draft day. After that, what matters is performance and value. Bolduc performed “more” in that he did well in the 2/3 season under Monty. Mailloux isn’t currently as “proven” but he’s a RD and that position is simply much more valuable than a LW/RW.

Players values fluctuate. What spot they were drafted in doesn’t really matter much past draft day. In the 2021 draft, Bolduc was selected 17th and Mailloux 31st…but that hardly matters today. Values change over time. Tyler Boucher was drafted 10th overall that year. Would it have been better value to trade Bolduc for Boucher instead? No! Because Boucher hasn’t performed well at all and his value is much less now.

In the end, both STL and MTL traded from an area of surplus for a player that could help them more now. Bolduc was a good rookie RW for us last season. Snuggerud should be that for us this season and appears likely to have an even bigger impact. In the meantime, we’ve also added Mailloux, getting younger and someone that should fit much better longterm than Leddy. We’ll just have to see how the 2 of them perform over the years. But overall, I agree with dr0zombie in that this trade is very likely to be a win-win for both teams. Life isn’t a zero sum game. For every winner there doesn’t have to be a loser. I think both MTL and STL did well here, trading for an asset that fit both of their needs better.
Ask yourself this...
Which roster improved the most via this trade?
A) The one that got the other team's best, and a proven NHL talent.
B) The one that got the other team's 3rd best and an unproven NHL talent.

Army has taken a huge chance on the raffle ticket for an RHD. Maybe it will work out, but it was a huge gamble.
It isn’t that simple. You are so myopic that you only see the two options you have invented. There is a 3rd option the Blues are better at The 3rd RD position than they were at season’s end last year. That they needed a 3rd RD than a 3rd RW. That you don’t even recognize that shows how much hockey knowledge/sense you lack.
Oh you want more analysis?. Let me connect the 6 years of dots for you.

1. The Blues need a RHD, since Petro left. Petro was drafted #4 years ago.
2. The Blues don't draft high by choice for money reasons.
3. The Blues can't draft another Petro.
4. The Blues need to get a RHD some other way.
5. The Blues draft an injury-prone Jireck (aka a poor man's Petro) at #18 in 2024, and that didn't work out.
6. Because Jiricek was looking like a failure, they needed to try another route to get a RHD.
7. The Blues traded away one of the best prospects (Bolduc) for a Petro raffle ticket (Mailloux).
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a smell of green grass wrote: 26 Sep 2025 13:19 pm
2forDiving wrote: 26 Sep 2025 12:56 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 26 Sep 2025 11:42 am
STL fan in MN wrote: 26 Sep 2025 11:31 am
a smell of green grass wrote: 26 Sep 2025 11:18 am What bothers me about the trade is the big picture.

Army and the Blues select later in the draft by choice. In that scenario, the ABSOLUTE VERY BEST that you can hope for is a Bolduc type player.

So what the Blues gave up is THE VERY BEST that we can hope for in the draft. Further, they gave up a player who was TRENDING UP on NHL ice. Bolduc was PROVEN. He was our Success Story. He was a young player that we all followed closely from draft day.

What did the Canadiens give up? They traded away an UNPROVEN player. They traded away a player that few looked up to in Montreal. They traded away a player that they selected later in the draft. Not only can Montreal draft BETTER than Mailloux, they HAVE DRAFTED HIGHER than Mailloux often.

Bolduc is GONE. The question now is HOW MANY MORE BOLDUCS are we going to be "GIVING AWAY" in the next 3 years--BECAUSE WE DON"T DRAFT HIGH IN THE DRAFT.

Anybody not PO'd about Bolduc is not paying attention. Anybody that doesn't see an ugly, nasty trend starting is not paying attention.
Counterpoint: we are paying attention but just see it much differently than you.

Draft position doesn’t matter much past draft day. After that, what matters is performance and value. Bolduc performed “more” in that he did well in the 2/3 season under Monty. Mailloux isn’t currently as “proven” but he’s a RD and that position is simply much more valuable than a LW/RW.

Players values fluctuate. What spot they were drafted in doesn’t really matter much past draft day. In the 2021 draft, Bolduc was selected 17th and Mailloux 31st…but that hardly matters today. Values change over time. Tyler Boucher was drafted 10th overall that year. Would it have been better value to trade Bolduc for Boucher instead? No! Because Boucher hasn’t performed well at all and his value is much less now.

In the end, both STL and MTL traded from an area of surplus for a player that could help them more now. Bolduc was a good rookie RW for us last season. Snuggerud should be that for us this season and appears likely to have an even bigger impact. In the meantime, we’ve also added Mailloux, getting younger and someone that should fit much better longterm than Leddy. We’ll just have to see how the 2 of them perform over the years. But overall, I agree with dr0zombie in that this trade is very likely to be a win-win for both teams. Life isn’t a zero sum game. For every winner there doesn’t have to be a loser. I think both MTL and STL did well here, trading for an asset that fit both of their needs better.
Ask yourself this...
Which roster improved the most via this trade?
A) The one that got the other team's best, and a proven NHL talent.
B) The one that got the other team's 3rd best and an unproven NHL talent.

Army has taken a huge chance on the raffle ticket for an RHD. Maybe it will work out, but it was a huge gamble.
It isn’t that simple. You are so myopic that you only see the two options you have invented. There is a 3rd option the Blues are better at The 3rd RD position than they were at season’s end last year. That they needed a 3rd RD than a 3rd RW. That you don’t even recognize that shows how much hockey knowledge/sense you lack.
Oh you want more analysis?. Let me connect the 6 years of dots for you.

1. The Blues need a RHD, since Petro left. Petro was drafted #4 years ago.
2. The Blues don't draft high by choice for money reasons.
3. The Blues can't draft another Petro.
4. The Blues need to get a RHD some other way.
5. The Blues draft an injury-prone Jireck (aka a poor man's Petro) at #18 in 2024, and that didn't work out.
6. Because Jiricek was looking like a failure, they needed to try another route to get a RHD.
7. The Blues traded away one of the best prospects (Bolduc) for a Petro raffle ticket (Mailloux).
It isn’t Jiricek or Mailloux. It may be both. You still don’t understand the point. You are willfully obtuse or stupid. Not my job to figure out which.
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5. The Blues draft an injury-prone Jireck (aka a poor man's Petro) at #18 in 2024, and that didn't work out.
6. Because Jiricek was looking like a failure, they needed to try another route to get a RHD.
7. The Blues traded away one of the best prospects (Bolduc) for a Petro raffle ticket (Mailloux).

These arent facts bro. Not Facts. You already wrote off Mailloux and Jiricek? Why?
Dont they get a chance to actually play?

Both look extremely promising. Mailloux is 3 years older. One is NHL ready, and the other is a 19-yr old prospect.
Keep your pipeline full! Keep acquiring and drafting talent--that is what they are doing. (Despite your erroneous opinions.)

You make assumptions based on fake opinions ---not facts. What's your problem? Just like to make [shirt] up?

Enjoy the ride. You control nothing. You are a negative little boy. Very annoying. Very childish. Trolling nonstop and terrible at it.
You have to give to get. Forwards are easier to replace than D. Pietrangelo is hard to replace. Not easy to do. All draft picks dont work out.
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BluesDom wrote: 26 Sep 2025 13:36 pm 5. The Blues draft an injury-prone Jireck (aka a poor man's Petro) at #18 in 2024, and that didn't work out.
6. Because Jiricek was looking like a failure, they needed to try another route to get a RHD.
7. The Blues traded away one of the best prospects (Bolduc) for a Petro raffle ticket (Mailloux).

These arent facts bro. Not Facts. You already wrote off Mailloux and Jiricek? Why?
Dont they get a chance to actually play?

Both look extremely promising. Mailloux is 3 years older. One is NHL ready, and the other is a 19-yr old prospect.
Keep your pipeline full! Keep acquiring and drafting talent--that is what they are doing. (Despite your erroneous opinions.)

You make assumptions based on fake opinions ---not facts. What's your problem? Just like to make [shirt] up?

Enjoy the ride. You control nothing. You are a negative little boy. Very annoying. Very childish. Trolling nonstop and terrible at it.
You have to give to get. Forwards are easier to replace than D. Pietrangelo is hard to replace. Not easy to do. All draft picks dont work out.
Which is the bigger lie?

A) The Blues acquired Mailloux because Jiricek may fail.

B) The Blues don't need a high draft pick because they have all the talent that they need on the roster and in the pipeline.
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a smell of green grass wrote: 26 Sep 2025 14:11 pm
BluesDom wrote: 26 Sep 2025 13:36 pm 5. The Blues draft an injury-prone Jireck (aka a poor man's Petro) at #18 in 2024, and that didn't work out.
6. Because Jiricek was looking like a failure, they needed to try another route to get a RHD.
7. The Blues traded away one of the best prospects (Bolduc) for a Petro raffle ticket (Mailloux).

These arent facts bro. Not Facts. You already wrote off Mailloux and Jiricek? Why?
Dont they get a chance to actually play?

Both look extremely promising. Mailloux is 3 years older. One is NHL ready, and the other is a 19-yr old prospect.
Keep your pipeline full! Keep acquiring and drafting talent--that is what they are doing. (Despite your erroneous opinions.)

You make assumptions based on fake opinions ---not facts. What's your problem? Just like to make [shirt] up?

Enjoy the ride. You control nothing. You are a negative little boy. Very annoying. Very childish. Trolling nonstop and terrible at it.
You have to give to get. Forwards are easier to replace than D. Pietrangelo is hard to replace. Not easy to do. All draft picks dont work out.
Which is the bigger lie?

A) The Blues acquired Mailloux because Jiricek may fail.

B) The Blues don't need a high draft pick because they have all the talent that they need on the roster and in the pipeline.
We have time with Jiricek. Hes a 19 year old teenager.
Do you think the draft is a sure thing?

I prefer Broberg, Maillloux and Holloway to prospects and picks.

I fail to see your issue. The Management is bringing in high end NHL ready players. Thats a good thing. Your mad about Bolduc--Maybe his uninspiring playoffs had something to do with it. Sell high. I dont understand you and your complaints. I really dont.

You act as if a 19 year old recently drafted player is a failure. You act as if he has no shot because you said so. You make no sense. Jiricek looks like a great pick despite some injuries. Injuries are part of sports. The Blues have drafted high end picks. A high-end pick doesnt mean an NHL player.
We didnt tank like you wanted. Get over it. Move on and find a new thing to be mad about. The lie is that you react to your own false opinions. You arent even reacting to facts or things that have happened. Jiricek is not a bust. Quite the opposite.

If you run the team, you can make the decisions. Until then just enjoy the team. Stop complaining about the same thing multiple times a day --most days. It gets old.
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This guy is worse than anything Bleeder has ever contributed to this board.

At least some of the good posters here are at HF - this but wipe would never be allowed to pollute that forum.
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I definitely wasn't a fan of the trade but I understand the rationale and Mailloux needs to pan out as a strong top 4D. That being said I don't consider Bolduc a proven talent but it also wouldn't surprise me if he has a better career than Snuggerud or Neighbours. Kid can play and just might turn out to be the best of the wingers the Blues drafted over the last several years.
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LGB73 wrote: 26 Sep 2025 15:37 pm I definitely wasn't a fan of the trade but I understand the rationale and Mailloux needs to pan out as a strong top 4D. That being said I don't consider Bolduc a proven talent but it also wouldn't surprise me if he has a better career than Snuggerud or Neighbours. Kid can play and just might turn out to be the best of the wingers the Blues drafted over the last several years.
He might, or he could end of being a solid, serviceable 2nd or 3rd line winger. That's not a bad thing or a knock on ZB. But some here have anointed him a perennial all star and future hall of famer based on about two-thirds of a regular season.
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a smell of green grass wrote: 26 Sep 2025 13:19 pm
2forDiving wrote: 26 Sep 2025 12:56 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 26 Sep 2025 11:42 am
STL fan in MN wrote: 26 Sep 2025 11:31 am
a smell of green grass wrote: 26 Sep 2025 11:18 am What bothers me about the trade is the big picture.

Army and the Blues select later in the draft by choice. In that scenario, the ABSOLUTE VERY BEST that you can hope for is a Bolduc type player.

So what the Blues gave up is THE VERY BEST that we can hope for in the draft. Further, they gave up a player who was TRENDING UP on NHL ice. Bolduc was PROVEN. He was our Success Story. He was a young player that we all followed closely from draft day.

What did the Canadiens give up? They traded away an UNPROVEN player. They traded away a player that few looked up to in Montreal. They traded away a player that they selected later in the draft. Not only can Montreal draft BETTER than Mailloux, they HAVE DRAFTED HIGHER than Mailloux often.

Bolduc is GONE. The question now is HOW MANY MORE BOLDUCS are we going to be "GIVING AWAY" in the next 3 years--BECAUSE WE DON"T DRAFT HIGH IN THE DRAFT.

Anybody not PO'd about Bolduc is not paying attention. Anybody that doesn't see an ugly, nasty trend starting is not paying attention.
Counterpoint: we are paying attention but just see it much differently than you.

Draft position doesn’t matter much past draft day. After that, what matters is performance and value. Bolduc performed “more” in that he did well in the 2/3 season under Monty. Mailloux isn’t currently as “proven” but he’s a RD and that position is simply much more valuable than a LW/RW.

Players values fluctuate. What spot they were drafted in doesn’t really matter much past draft day. In the 2021 draft, Bolduc was selected 17th and Mailloux 31st…but that hardly matters today. Values change over time. Tyler Boucher was drafted 10th overall that year. Would it have been better value to trade Bolduc for Boucher instead? No! Because Boucher hasn’t performed well at all and his value is much less now.

In the end, both STL and MTL traded from an area of surplus for a player that could help them more now. Bolduc was a good rookie RW for us last season. Snuggerud should be that for us this season and appears likely to have an even bigger impact. In the meantime, we’ve also added Mailloux, getting younger and someone that should fit much better longterm than Leddy. We’ll just have to see how the 2 of them perform over the years. But overall, I agree with dr0zombie in that this trade is very likely to be a win-win for both teams. Life isn’t a zero sum game. For every winner there doesn’t have to be a loser. I think both MTL and STL did well here, trading for an asset that fit both of their needs better.
Ask yourself this...
Which roster improved the most via this trade?
A) The one that got the other team's best, and a proven NHL talent.
B) The one that got the other team's 3rd best and an unproven NHL talent.

Army has taken a huge chance on the raffle ticket for an RHD. Maybe it will work out, but it was a huge gamble.
It isn’t that simple. You are so myopic that you only see the two options you have invented. There is a 3rd option the Blues are better at The 3rd RD position than they were at season’s end last year. That they needed a 3rd RD than a 3rd RW. That you don’t even recognize that shows how much hockey knowledge/sense you lack.
Oh you want more analysis?. Let me connect the 6 years of dots for you.

1. The Blues need a RHD, since Petro left. Petro was drafted #4 years ago.
2. The Blues don't draft high by choice for money reasons.
3. The Blues can't draft another Petro.
4. The Blues need to get a RHD some other way.
5. The Blues draft an injury-prone Jireck (aka a poor man's Petro) at #18 in 2024, and that didn't work out.
6. Because Jiricek was looking like a failure, they needed to try another route to get a RHD.
7. The Blues traded away one of the best prospects (Bolduc) for a Petro raffle ticket (Mailloux).
1. The Blues need a RHD, since Petro left. Petro was drafted #4 years ago.
parayko, Mailloux, jircirek

2. The Blues don't draft high by choice for money reasons.
Cause they put a GOOD product out to the fans

3. The Blues can't draft another Petro.
We got maillux and broberg with lindstein and jicriek

4. The Blues need to get a RHD some other way.
Yeah and they did you ratard

5. The Blues draft an injury-prone Jireck (aka a poor man's Petro) at #18 in 2024, and that didn't work out.
AKA you are a gray boy

6. Because Jiricek was looking like a failure, they needed to try another route to get a RHD.
Um they actually said he was impressive
https://www.stltoday.com/sports/profess ... a4a22.html

7. The Blues traded away one of the best prospects (Bolduc) for a Petro raffle ticket (Mailloux).

Sorry bolduc was below snuggy dvorsky neighbors and holloway. And now carbonneau is already the bigger and more physical version

BRO you are the most ratarded person i have ever seen on this site.
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a smell of green grass wrote: 26 Sep 2025 14:11 pm
BluesDom wrote: 26 Sep 2025 13:36 pm 5. The Blues draft an injury-prone Jireck (aka a poor man's Petro) at #18 in 2024, and that didn't work out.
6. Because Jiricek was looking like a failure, they needed to try another route to get a RHD.
7. The Blues traded away one of the best prospects (Bolduc) for a Petro raffle ticket (Mailloux).

These arent facts bro. Not Facts. You already wrote off Mailloux and Jiricek? Why?
Dont they get a chance to actually play?

Both look extremely promising. Mailloux is 3 years older. One is NHL ready, and the other is a 19-yr old prospect.
Keep your pipeline full! Keep acquiring and drafting talent--that is what they are doing. (Despite your erroneous opinions.)

You make assumptions based on fake opinions ---not facts. What's your problem? Just like to make [shirt] up?

Enjoy the ride. You control nothing. You are a negative little boy. Very annoying. Very childish. Trolling nonstop and terrible at it.
You have to give to get. Forwards are easier to replace than D. Pietrangelo is hard to replace. Not easy to do. All draft picks dont work out.
Which is the bigger lie?

A) The Blues acquired Mailloux because Jiricek may fail.

B) The Blues don't need a high draft pick because they have all the talent that they need on the roster and in the pipeline.
how about f as in f you dummy. we have two vettsin first line roles that are great.
Then we have two young guys in the lhd and rhd. Army made the best choice and you are just jealous and gray
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a smell of green grass wrote: 26 Sep 2025 11:18 am What bothers me about the trade is the big picture.

Army and the Blues select later in the draft by choice. In that scenario, the ABSOLUTE VERY BEST that you can hope for is a Bolduc type player.

So what the Blues gave up is THE VERY BEST that we can hope for in the draft. Further, they gave up a player who was TRENDING UP on NHL ice. Bolduc was PROVEN. He was our Success Story. He was a young player that we all followed closely from draft day.

What did the Canadiens give up? They traded away an UNPROVEN player. They traded away a player that few looked up to in Montreal. They traded away a player that they selected later in the draft. Not only can Montreal draft BETTER than Mailloux, they HAVE DRAFTED HIGHER than Mailloux often.

Bolduc is GONE. The question now is HOW MANY MORE BOLDUCS are we going to be "GIVING AWAY" in the next 3 years--BECAUSE WE DON"T DRAFT HIGH IN THE DRAFT.

Anybody not PO'd about Bolduc is not paying attention. Anybody that doesn't see an ugly, nasty trend starting is not paying attention.
The Blues needed a RHD with good size and generally considered to have strong potential to be a very good NHL caliber player.
The Canadiens needed a forward whom is generally considered to have strong potential to be a very good NHL caliber player.
What is so difficult to understand about those two facts??
It is not so much that you are stupid...it's that you are stubbornly stupid. Your obsessive compulsive disorder that drives your thinking and posting needs professional treatment. Pay attention, try to think, seek professional counseling.
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Old_Goat wrote: 26 Sep 2025 16:00 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 26 Sep 2025 11:18 am What bothers me about the trade is the big picture.

Army and the Blues select later in the draft by choice. In that scenario, the ABSOLUTE VERY BEST that you can hope for is a Bolduc type player.

So what the Blues gave up is THE VERY BEST that we can hope for in the draft. Further, they gave up a player who was TRENDING UP on NHL ice. Bolduc was PROVEN. He was our Success Story. He was a young player that we all followed closely from draft day.

What did the Canadiens give up? They traded away an UNPROVEN player. They traded away a player that few looked up to in Montreal. They traded away a player that they selected later in the draft. Not only can Montreal draft BETTER than Mailloux, they HAVE DRAFTED HIGHER than Mailloux often.

Bolduc is GONE. The question now is HOW MANY MORE BOLDUCS are we going to be "GIVING AWAY" in the next 3 years--BECAUSE WE DON"T DRAFT HIGH IN THE DRAFT.

Anybody not PO'd about Bolduc is not paying attention. Anybody that doesn't see an ugly, nasty trend starting is not paying attention.
The Blues needed a RHD with good size and generally considered to have strong potential to be a very good NHL caliber player.
The Canadiens needed a forward whom is generally considered to have strong potential to be a very good NHL caliber player.
What is so difficult to understand about those two facts??
It is not so much that you are stupid...it's that you are stubbornly stupid. Your obsessive compulsive disorder that drives your thinking and posting needs professional treatment. Pay attention, try to think, seek professional counseling.
I need BluesTalk. I don't need PsychologyTalk.

Army has needed a RHD with good size and potential for how many years now? Regardless of that, you're confident that Army has finally hit the nail on the head this time.

Did we just give up a proven NHL player for yet another Armstrong whiff?
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a smell of green grass wrote: 27 Sep 2025 04:02 am
Old_Goat wrote: 26 Sep 2025 16:00 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 26 Sep 2025 11:18 am What bothers me about the trade is the big picture.

Army and the Blues select later in the draft by choice. In that scenario, the ABSOLUTE VERY BEST that you can hope for is a Bolduc type player.

So what the Blues gave up is THE VERY BEST that we can hope for in the draft. Further, they gave up a player who was TRENDING UP on NHL ice. Bolduc was PROVEN. He was our Success Story. He was a young player that we all followed closely from draft day.

What did the Canadiens give up? They traded away an UNPROVEN player. They traded away a player that few looked up to in Montreal. They traded away a player that they selected later in the draft. Not only can Montreal draft BETTER than Mailloux, they HAVE DRAFTED HIGHER than Mailloux often.

Bolduc is GONE. The question now is HOW MANY MORE BOLDUCS are we going to be "GIVING AWAY" in the next 3 years--BECAUSE WE DON"T DRAFT HIGH IN THE DRAFT.

Anybody not PO'd about Bolduc is not paying attention. Anybody that doesn't see an ugly, nasty trend starting is not paying attention.
The Blues needed a RHD with good size and generally considered to have strong potential to be a very good NHL caliber player.
The Canadiens needed a forward whom is generally considered to have strong potential to be a very good NHL caliber player.
What is so difficult to understand about those two facts??
It is not so much that you are stupid...it's that you are stubbornly stupid. Your obsessive compulsive disorder that drives your thinking and posting needs professional treatment. Pay attention, try to think, seek professional counseling.
I need BluesTalk. I don't need PsychologyTalk.

Army has needed a RHD with good size and potential for how many years now? Regardless of that, you're confident that Army has finally hit the nail on the head this time.

Did we just give up a proven NHL player for yet another Armstrong whiff?
RHD NEED: A strong case can be made that Mailloux is arriving "just in time" to be groomed as an eventual top-4. The Blues have had a solid top-4 veteran RHD for years now, at least back to when Parayko emerged and settled in as a starter. They played through his injury last season without missing a beat in the win column and the D unit was THIRD in the NHL in goals scored with 46 (Avs had 54).

It's always possible to fill the 3rd pairing and depth with veterans and LH defensemen.

In prior seasons Parayko's back problems were at times problematic but Bortuzzo was around. So, there were times when they could have used a young RHD with size and potential but with Parayko-Pietrangelo/Faulk and with Bortuzzo they haven't needed one except arguably in 2023-24.

WHIFF: You continue to pound ad infinitum with the negativity. Get a life. The answer is "highly unlikely".

Players are players, they come and go. The Blues won a Cup without Federko, Hull, Stevens, MacInnis, Pronger, even Backes. Bolduc is just another emerging young forward, until he isn't, Mailloux is a hot prospect who was named to the AHL Top Prospects team. The Blues have other veterans and prospects to backfill Bolduc and his path into the top-6 was BLOCKED, establishing a greater team need for a solid prospect at RD.

Literally EVERYONE who regularly visits this forum gets this, even you. Some really liked Bolduc but if the team plays well their attachment will fade in time. Some troll.
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Re: Bolduc Analysis - Proven Ability

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TheJackBurton wrote: 26 Sep 2025 08:48 am The way I look at it is this:

I can draft another Bolduc, and in fact looks like the Blues already did.

With the way the position is going, unless you are drafting top 15 or so, the odds of being able to draft a potential top 4 RHDman are becoming incredibly small, unless you keep who you are scouting on the extreme down low like the Blues did with Parayko.

With those odds, I'm trading a Bolduc for a Mailloux every single team. I'm taking that gamble without even blinking.
Every time no doubt.

I'm not sold on Bolduc long term.

I believe Mailloux is going to be a star.
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Re: Bolduc Analysis - Proven Ability

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a smell of green grass wrote: 27 Sep 2025 04:02 am
Old_Goat wrote: 26 Sep 2025 16:00 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 26 Sep 2025 11:18 am What bothers me about the trade is the big picture.

Army and the Blues select later in the draft by choice. In that scenario, the ABSOLUTE VERY BEST that you can hope for is a Bolduc type player.

So what the Blues gave up is THE VERY BEST that we can hope for in the draft. Further, they gave up a player who was TRENDING UP on NHL ice. Bolduc was PROVEN. He was our Success Story. He was a young player that we all followed closely from draft day.

What did the Canadiens give up? They traded away an UNPROVEN player. They traded away a player that few looked up to in Montreal. They traded away a player that they selected later in the draft. Not only can Montreal draft BETTER than Mailloux, they HAVE DRAFTED HIGHER than Mailloux often.

Bolduc is GONE. The question now is HOW MANY MORE BOLDUCS are we going to be "GIVING AWAY" in the next 3 years--BECAUSE WE DON"T DRAFT HIGH IN THE DRAFT.

Anybody not PO'd about Bolduc is not paying attention. Anybody that doesn't see an ugly, nasty trend starting is not paying attention.
The Blues needed a RHD with good size and generally considered to have strong potential to be a very good NHL caliber player.
The Canadiens needed a forward whom is generally considered to have strong potential to be a very good NHL caliber player.
What is so difficult to understand about those two facts??
It is not so much that you are stupid...it's that you are stubbornly stupid. Your obsessive compulsive disorder that drives your thinking and posting needs professional treatment. Pay attention, try to think, seek professional counseling.
I need BluesTalk. I don't need PsychologyTalk.

Army has needed a RHD with good size and potential for how many years now? Regardless of that, you're confident that Army has finally hit the nail on the head this time.

Did we just give up a proven NHL player for yet another Armstrong whiff?
The answer so far is yes. The Blues are replacing Bolduc with Joseph or Texier right now at 3rd line wing coming out of camp. That’s a downgrade for sure. Also Dvorsky looks like he’s not gonna make the team. Not good.
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