Can JJ be our George Brett

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Re: Can JJ be our George Brett

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Bully4you wrote: 04 Aug 2025 08:40 am
rockondlouie wrote: 04 Aug 2025 08:39 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 04 Aug 2025 05:46 am Good morning.

Big advocate to moving him to third base. Nado will be gone in off season, and JJ is too talented for second, plus a huge black hole comes open at third. All reasons why he plays there.

To Brett-
13 x AS
3 x SS
3 x Batting title
MVP
GG
HOF
.305
317 HR
3154 hits

It’s been since Rolen in my opinion as to a stud third baseman. It’s been awhile since there was a Brett type third baseman.

What comes around goes around. That works both ways.

Finally, if JJ sniffs Brett’s career, we are all n good shape/
Chase Utley :wink:
That's the most likely.
Was he ever the face of baseball?
Because that's my prediction for JJ
Utley was/is a borderline Hall of Fame 2nd baseman:
259 HR
1025 RBI
.275 .358 .465 .823

ONLY an Albert-like talent will ever be the face of baseball playing for the Cardinals but I hope you're right bully!
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Re: Can JJ be our George Brett

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RunSup wrote: 04 Aug 2025 08:14 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 04 Aug 2025 07:26 am
RunSup wrote: 04 Aug 2025 07:12 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 04 Aug 2025 06:09 am
swatski wrote: 04 Aug 2025 06:05 am We’ve been burned before.
Exactly. Law of averages say we are due. Can’t think badly here. Gotta hope for an offensive decent defensive player. One hole filled.

And I had Walker as the next Clemente. But that’s my mental issue.
The Law of Averages? You mean the Gamblers Fallacy? Maybe you should avoid Vegas, Bulldog.

JJ at 2B. JJ at 3B. Either is a plus. We have not seen JJ's arm yet.

Donovan can play 3B too. Or get traded for one.

Try Herrera at 3B. Or Walker? Law of Averages says at least one of dese bums will be decent.

Nolan Arenado called to ask, "How do you like me now?!?"
No. The law of averages says no such thing
Law of Averages is mostly a colloquialism and statistical fallacy that is misapplied. I am not an Actuary. You probably are. I am just an engineer and not Captain America. I've gotta go to work and can't do this all day. So I forfeit on this branch of the thread.

BUT, ... we are headed into Yadier Molina Catcher Syndrome.

None of these guys are Nolan Arenado nor Scott Rolen. To quote Popeye, they "ams what they am." Just give them some spinach-k and see what happens.

PS. When was the last time the Cardinals developed a quality home-grown third baseman. My failing memory goes all the way back to Terry Pendleton. Would you be happy if JJ turned into Todd Zeile? He did have a 19 WAR career.

The Cardinals may just not be good at drafting and developing all star 3B.
Way to misapply. Now get back to work, sanitation engineer. My trash doesn't empty itself
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Re: Can JJ be our George Brett

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Bully4you wrote: 04 Aug 2025 08:38 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 04 Aug 2025 08:36 am
RunSup wrote: 04 Aug 2025 08:27 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 04 Aug 2025 08:19 am
RunSup wrote: 04 Aug 2025 08:14 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 04 Aug 2025 07:26 am
RunSup wrote: 04 Aug 2025 07:12 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 04 Aug 2025 06:09 am
swatski wrote: 04 Aug 2025 06:05 am We’ve been burned before.
Exactly. Law of averages say we are due. Can’t think badly here. Gotta hope for an offensive decent defensive player. One hole filled.

And I had Walker as the next Clemente. But that’s my mental issue.
The Law of Averages? You mean the Gamblers Fallacy? Maybe you should avoid Vegas, Bulldog.

JJ at 2B. JJ at 3B. Either is a plus. We have not seen JJ's arm yet.

Donovan can play 3B too. Or get traded for one.

Try Herrera at 3B. Or Walker? Law of Averages says at least one of dese bums will be decent.

Nolan Arenado called to ask, "How do you like me now?!?"
No. The law of averages says no such thing
Law of Averages is mostly a colloquialism and statistical fallacy that is misapplied. I am not an Actuary. You probably are. I am just an engineer and not Captain America. I've gotta go to work and can't do this all day. So I forfeit on this branch of the thread.

BUT, ... we are headed into Yadier Molina Catcher Syndrome.

None of these guys are Nolan Arenado nor Scott Rolen. To quote Popeye, they "ams what they am." Just give them some spinach-k and see what happens.

PS. When was the last time the Cardinals developed a quality home-grown third baseman. My failing memory goes all the way back to Terry Pendleton. Would you be happy if JJ turned into Todd Zeile? He did have a 19 WAR career.

The Cardinals may just not be good at drafting and developing all star 3B.
You are right. Been forever. That’s why it’s exciting to speculate, because this opportunity has been few and far in between. It’s a hope thread- Ha.
And the title of the thread is Shady-esque. Which means I may have missed the joke. Touché.

I only get my own jokes here and they're friggin hilarious. Just ask me.
Yea. I can see the similarities. My title might should have been- is JJ capable of Brett like numbers.
Why does everyone disparage this Shady person?
They do it to me too.
Just voicing an opinion and get berated like that.
Ridiculous.
Everybody has their own style, Bully. You do you.

Shady gets flack for repeatedly starting multiple threads on the same topic. If he gave himself just 1 ticket a day to start threads, people would probably leave him be.

Melville's persona is funny but grates on many here. Everybody "ams who they am" on an anonymous board. I don't take anything here to seriously.
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Re: Can JJ be our George Brett

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I just hope he's not our next Adam Kennedy.
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Re: Can JJ be our George Brett

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I’m not a fan of a formula-driven team makeup, where a batters performance dictates where he plays on the field. There’s been good teams that had their best hitter playing SS or 2B, for example.

You need to design your field players where they play the best. Pitching and defense will keep many teams competitive , where offense often fails

As for JJ, if 2B is his best position, play him there. Donovan, for one, can slide over to 3b if ndvsssary.

Beware of a field team made up of DHs
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Re: Can JJ be our George Brett

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He can chew tobacco and get hemorrhoids.

But let’s not get crazy. He can’t chew Brett like tobacco, get hemorrhoids in the WS and [shirt] himself at the bellagio. Triple crown threats don’t grow on trees.
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Re: Can JJ be our George Brett

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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 04 Aug 2025 05:46 am Good morning.

Big advocate to moving him to third base. Nado will be gone in off season, and JJ is too talented for second, plus a huge black hole comes open at third. All reasons why he plays there.

To Brett-
13 x AS
3 x SS
3 x Batting title
MVP
GG
HOF
.305
317 HR
3154 hits

It’s been since Rolen in my opinion as to a stud third baseman. It’s been awhile since there was a Brett type third baseman.

What comes around goes around. That works both ways.

Finally, if JJ sniffs Brett’s career, we are all n good shape/
That would be a let down. I'm expecting Mike Schmidt.
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Re: Can JJ be our George Brett

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Absolut wrote: 04 Aug 2025 12:09 pm He can chew tobacco and get hemorrhoids.

But let’s not get crazy. He can’t chew Brett like tobacco, get hemorrhoids in the WS and [shirt] himself at the bellagio. Triple crown threats don’t grow on trees.
JJ Wetherholt only takes perfect, double tapered [censored]. We better trade him.
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Re: Can JJ be our George Brett

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BrummerStealsHome wrote: 04 Aug 2025 10:55 am I just hope he's not our next Adam Kennedy.
He can be Adam Kennedy all day long if he can return another Jim Edmonds in a deal.

Seriously, his amateur performance dwarfs AKs as does his brief MiLB stint thus far. AK was a 2oth pick and JJW was 7th, but rated by many as a top 3 guy.

FWIW, though, many players would kill to have a career like AKs.
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Re: Can JJ be our George Brett

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Ronnie Dobbs wrote: 04 Aug 2025 13:25 pm
Absolut wrote: 04 Aug 2025 12:09 pm He can chew tobacco and get hemorrhoids.

But let’s not get crazy. He can’t chew Brett like tobacco, get hemorrhoids in the WS and [shirt] himself at the bellagio. Triple crown threats don’t grow on trees.
JJ Wetherholt only takes perfect, double tapered [censored]. We better trade him.
Hahahahhaa
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Re: Can JJ be our George Brett

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I think JJ has the potential to be Brett like, but I will be surprised if Bloom will be able to move Arenado this winter. Which means Arenado will probably be the starting 3B in 2026. Once Bloom can’t move Arenado I then see him moving Donovan to open spot for JJ at 2B and get other pieces the team needs and or prospects.
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Re: Can JJ be our George Brett

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IndCard75 wrote: 04 Aug 2025 16:31 pm I think JJ has the potential to be Brett like, but I will be surprised if Bloom will be able to move Arenado this winter. Which means Arenado will probably be the starting 3B in 2026. Once Bloom can’t move Arenado I then see him moving Donovan to open spot for JJ at 2B and get other pieces the team needs and or prospects.
Good write. They will some how move arenado.
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Re: Can JJ be our George Brett

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Does JJ know the MLB pine tar rule??

All I can think of is Brett rushing wild eyed at CT for using his stats and name, like he did the home plate umpire in the Yanks pine tar game.
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Re: Can JJ be our George Brett

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ilcubuffs wrote: 04 Aug 2025 20:29 pm Does JJ know the MLB pine tar rule??

All I can think of is Brett rushing wild eyed at CT for using his stats and name, like he did the home plate umpire in the Yanks pine tar game.
Ha that’s a good vision. He was animated. To the extreme.
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Re: Can JJ be our George Brett

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A thought. If you play JJ at third the rest of the year at Memphis, call up or not, does that send NA a message.
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