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[Cardinals4Life]

CT loves Bubbles, detests Oli...and yet

CT has a current love affair for Francona, who also has his team looking up at the Cards in the standings.

The blind hatred over anything Oli is pretty funny.

Before this season, it wasn't "blind hatred."

It all began 2022 Game 1 against the Phils; pulling Quintana was idiotic. Then, trying to get 2 innings out of Helsley because of his earlier blunder when the guy had jammed a finger on his throwing hand just 3 days before was equally dumb. To make matters worse, when asked postgame, he said "everything went to script until that last inning." You can't script a regular season game, much less a playoff game.

He's made a terrible habit out of pulling starters too early when they're cruising, overusing BP arms, overplaying L/R matchups, subbing in ancient vets with small sample size history over hot hitters, and musical chairs with the lineup.

That hatred was well deserved. But I'll admit, he's either learned or changed or something because he's not making the same mistakes over and over again this season.

Sonny throwing a complete game and Libby pitching into the 7th would have never happened before this season. Overall, a fine job thus far.

Agree with first 2 paragraphs!

Sonny pitching a CG was only allowed because of an extremely low PC. If he was anywhere near 100, hed have yanked him faster than VSII gets down the line. He doesn't have the feel of a game to make decisions in the heat of the moment based on in-game factors. If it isn't pre-planned, he can’t handle it.

How did Fedde get a 109 pitch CG shutout earlier this season?

109? OMG his arm must be falling off!!!! Hahaha

[AnExParrot]

CT loves Bubbles, detests Oli...and yet

CT has a current love affair for Francona, who also has his team looking up at the Cards in the standings.

The blind hatred over anything Oli is pretty funny.

Before this season, it wasn't "blind hatred."

It all began 2022 Game 1 against the Phils; pulling Quintana was idiotic. Then, trying to get 2 innings out of Helsley because of his earlier blunder when the guy had jammed a finger on his throwing hand just 3 days before was equally dumb. To make matters worse, when asked postgame, he said "everything went to script until that last inning." You can't script a regular season game, much less a playoff game.

He's made a terrible habit out of pulling starters too early when they're cruising, overusing BP arms, overplaying L/R matchups, subbing in ancient vets with small sample size history over hot hitters, and musical chairs with the lineup.

That hatred was well deserved. But I'll admit, he's either learned or changed or something because he's not making the same mistakes over and over again this season.

Sonny throwing a complete game and Libby pitching into the 7th would have never happened before this season. Overall, a fine job thus far.

Agree with first 2 paragraphs!

Sonny pitching a CG was only allowed because of an extremely low PC. If he was anywhere near 100, hed have yanked him faster than VSII gets down the line. He doesn't have the feel of a game to make decisions in the heat of the moment based on in-game factors. If it isn't pre-planned, he can’t handle it.

How did Fedde get a 109 pitch CG shutout earlier this season?

109? OMG his arm must be falling off!!!! Hahaha

Doesn't fit your narrative, not going to address it?

[RamFan08NY]

CT loves Bubbles, detests Oli...and yet

CT has a current love affair for Francona, who also has his team looking up at the Cards in the standings.

The blind hatred over anything Oli is pretty funny.

Before this season, it wasn't "blind hatred."

It all began 2022 Game 1 against the Phils; pulling Quintana was idiotic. Then, trying to get 2 innings out of Helsley because of his earlier blunder when the guy had jammed a finger on his throwing hand just 3 days before was equally dumb. To make matters worse, when asked postgame, he said "everything went to script until that last inning." You can't script a regular season game, much less a playoff game.

He's made a terrible habit out of pulling starters too early when they're cruising, overusing BP arms, overplaying L/R matchups, subbing in ancient vets with small sample size history over hot hitters, and musical chairs with the lineup.

That hatred was well deserved. But I'll admit, he's either learned or changed or something because he's not making the same mistakes over and over again this season.

Sonny throwing a complete game and Libby pitching into the 7th would have never happened before this season. Overall, a fine job thus far.

Agree with first 2 paragraphs!

Sonny pitching a CG was only allowed because of an extremely low PC. If he was anywhere near 100, hed have yanked him faster than VSII gets down the line. He doesn't have the feel of a game to make decisions in the heat of the moment based on in-game factors. If it isn't pre-planned, he can’t handle it.

Of course he would have. It would be negligent for a manager NOT to monitor and act on a pitchers pitch count.

[woofy25]

CT loves Bubbles, detests Oli...and yet

I like Shilt, bc he makes the playoffs pretty much every season he has been a big league manager and wins a minimum of 90 games sans COVID. He's ranked 33rd all time in winning % for a manager. He could manage my club if I owned a franchise. Not good enough for the Cardinals though.

[Futuregm2]

CT loves Bubbles, detests Oli...and yet

So that makes you detest Bubbles and love Oli because you’re a contrarian.

[scoutyjones2]

CT loves Bubbles, detests Oli...and yet

So that makes you detest Bubbles and love Oli because you’re a contrarian.

Nope.

[dugoutrex]

Oli > Mikey

[Bad14]

Oli > Mikey

That's not saying much. He was awful.

[Cardinals4Life]

CT loves Bubbles, detests Oli...and yet

CT has a current love affair for Francona, who also has his team looking up at the Cards in the standings.

The blind hatred over anything Oli is pretty funny.

Before this season, it wasn't "blind hatred."

It all began 2022 Game 1 against the Phils; pulling Quintana was idiotic. Then, trying to get 2 innings out of Helsley because of his earlier blunder when the guy had jammed a finger on his throwing hand just 3 days before was equally dumb. To make matters worse, when asked postgame, he said "everything went to script until that last inning." You can't script a regular season game, much less a playoff game.

He's made a terrible habit out of pulling starters too early when they're cruising, overusing BP arms, overplaying L/R matchups, subbing in ancient vets with small sample size history over hot hitters, and musical chairs with the lineup.

That hatred was well deserved. But I'll admit, he's either learned or changed or something because he's not making the same mistakes over and over again this season.

Sonny throwing a complete game and Libby pitching into the 7th would have never happened before this season. Overall, a fine job thus far.

Agree with first 2 paragraphs!

Sonny pitching a CG was only allowed because of an extremely low PC. If he was anywhere near 100, hed have yanked him faster than VSII gets down the line. He doesn't have the feel of a game to make decisions in the heat of the moment based on in-game factors. If it isn't pre-planned, he can’t handle it.

Of course he would have. It would be negligent for a manager NOT to monitor and act on a pitchers pitch count.

PC are not some magic numbers. There has to be be some "feel" involved. Every pitch is not equal. Just because a guy hits a # doesn't mean he should automatically be pulled.

[woofy25]

CT loves Bubbles, detests Oli...and yet

CT has a current love affair for Francona, who also has his team looking up at the Cards in the standings.

The blind hatred over anything Oli is pretty funny.

This team would be even better without Marmol as manager. He costs us games consistently. He is an AWFUL manager. No in game feel whatsoever. None!

Name them. Must be a lot if he consistently costs them games. Back up your accusation.

[Ozziesfan41]

CT loves Bubbles, detests Oli...and yet

So that makes you detest Bubbles and love Oli because you’re a contrarian.

If a majority of cards talk loved oli he wouldn’t like him.

[Cardinals4Life]

CT loves Bubbles, detests Oli...and yet

CT has a current love affair for Francona, who also has his team looking up at the Cards in the standings.

The blind hatred over anything Oli is pretty funny.

This team would be even better without Marmol as manager. He costs us games consistently. He is an AWFUL manager. No in game feel whatsoever. None!

Name them. Must be a lot if he consistently costs them games. Back up your accusation.

His atrocious lineups over the past several years alone account for god knows how many losses.

[woofy25]

CT loves Bubbles, detests Oli...and yet

CT has a current love affair for Francona, who also has his team looking up at the Cards in the standings.

The blind hatred over anything Oli is pretty funny.

This team would be even better without Marmol as manager. He costs us games consistently. He is an AWFUL manager. No in game feel whatsoever. None!

Name them. Must be a lot if he consistently costs them games. Back up your accusation.

His atrocious lineups over the past several years alone account for god knows how many losses.

You're giving the manager too much credit for wins and losses, and you're not quantifying nor qualifying your position.

[Cardinals4Life]

CT loves Bubbles, detests Oli...and yet

CT has a current love affair for Francona, who also has his team looking up at the Cards in the standings.

The blind hatred over anything Oli is pretty funny.

This team would be even better without Marmol as manager. He costs us games consistently. He is an AWFUL manager. No in game feel whatsoever. None!

Name them. Must be a lot if he consistently costs them games. Back up your accusation.

His atrocious lineups over the past several years alone account for god knows how many losses.

You're giving the manager too much credit for wins and losses, and you're not quantifying nor qualifying your position.

Ok. Sorry. Not really wanting to argue, guy. Just stating my opinion. A manager's job is to put his players in the best position to be successful. In my opinion, Marmol rarely does either. (The countless games using Goldy as a table setter for Noot is a prime example!)

[Bad14]

CT loves Bubbles, detests Oli...and yet

CT has a current love affair for Francona, who also has his team looking up at the Cards in the standings.

The blind hatred over anything Oli is pretty funny.

This team would be even better without Marmol as manager. He costs us games consistently. He is an AWFUL manager. No in game feel whatsoever. None!

Name them. Must be a lot if he consistently costs them games. Back up your accusation.

His atrocious lineups over the past several years alone account for god knows how many losses.

You're giving the manager too much credit for wins and losses, and you're not quantifying nor qualifying your position.

Ok. Sorry. Not really wanting to argue, guy. Just stating my opinion. A manager's job is to put his players in the best position to be successful. In my opinion, Marmol rarely does either. (The countless games using Goldy as a table setter for Noot is a prime example!)

I tend to agree with you but in fairness he has a terrible offensive team. The most recent blunder I thought he made was leaving Leahy in to throw 100 pitches (exaggerating) against the Sox when he had nothing on his pitches. Having Barrero attempt a safety squeeze in the same game also was baffling. As one clever person posted "The Cardinals Beat Oli AND the White Sox."

[ScotchMIrish]

CT loves Bubbles, detests Oli...and yet

I like Shilt, bc he makes the playoffs pretty much every season he has been a big league manager and wins a minimum of 90 games sans COVID. He's ranked 33rd all time in winning % for a manager. He could manage my club if I owned a franchise. Not good enough for the Cardinals though.

Small sample size and he inherited the job both in St Louis and San Diego from managers who had winning records. It's not like he took the Pirates to the playoffs. $200 million payroll in San Diego.