Jordan Kyrou

[theograce]

When I saw how shallow all that progress turned out to be after one really hard hit, it was as if the old Kyrou never left.

What were you thinking when you saw Buchnevich choke as hard as any Blue ever has?

[Aesa]

I'll stand firm that Kyrou stays, improves in all the necessary areas and that he and Holloway each hit 40 goals in the 25-26 season.

Wishful thinking? Maybe, and maybe bleedr actually leaves the board. I think my statement is more likely than that happening.

[dhsux]

Yes.

It's a culture thing. You simply can't have one of your highest paid players decide when he wants to play. He proved that he can't get through one round. You need four. With a lot of young players coming into the fold, you simply can't have that guy in your room.

He plays when he wants. If you demote him down the lineup, he pouts.

Frankly, I'm surprised no one has gone Bortuzzo on him in practice.

He got hit by a freight train to start that series.

But let's forget that.

That never stops a big heart though, does it?
But let’s forget that.

The playoffs will always have freight trains. Some can still play well, even though the threat is always there.

That's ridiculous...to deny sheer impact injury in this game...it's happened to the best.

Is that heart of his the one that scores goals and assists? That makes his legs move fast?

I don't do much running around here pumping him up seems I just spend time responding to all the criticism he takes around here about his play and character.....and it's clear as day to anyone watching he's making effort and strides to improve is full ice play.

I'm happy to stand behind him moving forward. His progress will continue.

I agree the progress will continue. Playing with a winger even smaller than he is and who has an actual big heart and a burning desire to win, will continue to embarrass and inspire him.

Funny that a Blues fan with such admirable passion for the team can …overlook the gigantic faults in a player who got the Chief fired because of lazy and thoughtless play, and who let his team down in such a shameful way
I never think of either of the above acts as “Bleeding Blue”.

The Stanley Cup Playoffs ARE a freight trains. That is why it is the hardest trophy to win I’m ALL sports.
A Champion doesn’t let one bad hit …. Make him quit giving 100%.

Kyrou did not get Berube fired, c’mon man, as someone that professes to have been in the game as much as you say you should know that all coaches have a shelf life, and Chief hit his here.

Of course he did.
The thousands who booed Kyrou at the Enterprise Center the first game after Chief was canned understood the equation.

Kyrou had been making early Brett Hull look like a Selke winner for a long time, but the straw that broke the camel’s back was this- they had been using Kyrou on the point on the PP and he could not keep a puck in. If keeping it in meant taking a hit, he let the other player walk away with it for a breakaway. Chief couldnt take it anymore and called his wimpy (donkey) out for it after a game where it cost the team a “W”. Kyrou was too much of a Prima Donna to accept this valid criticism and Thomas backed him up. That was 128 million dollars of boys who had never won a (buzz) thing against a Cup-Winning Coach who was, regrettably, easier to let go.

It was one of the darkest moments in the history of the franchise in my opinion.

Not quite. He was booed after the firing because when approached by the media for a statement he dared to not sob and gnash his teeth over it. Talk about a hot take by that crowd.
My question would be, who thought it was a good idea to put him on the point in the first place? He should have been in the slot or at least half boards for the O and do you really want a (at the time) defensive liability as your last line of defense?
Darkest moment? Quite the hyperbole there, it doesn’t even crack the top 20

He was also highly immature with how he initially handled things. Then he made amends publicly and the crowd, and the fans, have since been behind him.

And his play has dramatically improved since that "incident".

We'll see who's right and wrong on JK going forward. Whether some people will admit to it or not remains in doubt.

I have always admitted it. When Kyrou made baby steps toward playing like you would expect an incredibly gifted 6’1” 196 pound player to play, I gave him the benefit of the doubt.When he got paired with a player who actually could outplay him, because his heart was bigger, I was elated.
When I saw how shallow all that progress turned out to be after one really hard hit, it was as if the old Kyrou never left.

No GM will give up anything decent for him, it appears.

Good for you Harry.

Your bias is over the top and totally clouding your assessment with a bunch of unproven claims. It's hard to read your harping over and over and not countering it. And pretending this one guy ruined your dream of round 2 is just ridiculous.

You want him gone. Get that. Enough already. And if he turns into where I think he's STILL going you will be wrong for your position because this isn't some matter of fact that you claim.

You're a good fan Harry but your wrong slandering the guy the way you have.

I'm done, at least for now.

If the Blues move him, I hope it's a great value coming in, I will support that if it is for sake of the team.

[theograce]

Get that. Enough already.

You cry to the mods … they tell you what to do and you ignore it.

Enough already is right … or keep crying and ignoring them

[TheJackBurton]

No, because I don't believe the right return is there. If the right return were there it's pretty clear that trigger is getting pulled. But, the guy was Dobson and that is done, so no it's not happening.

In 48 hrs we will be talking about shipping Buch out and Kyrou is here for the long haul

Buch isn't going anywhere he has a full no trade.

[Harry York 37]

Yes.

It's a culture thing. You simply can't have one of your highest paid players decide when he wants to play. He proved that he can't get through one round. You need four. With a lot of young players coming into the fold, you simply can't have that guy in your room.

He plays when he wants. If you demote him down the lineup, he pouts.

Frankly, I'm surprised no one has gone Bortuzzo on him in practice.

He got hit by a freight train to start that series.

But let's forget that.

That never stops a big heart though, does it?
But let’s forget that.

The playoffs will always have freight trains. Some can still play well, even though the threat is always there.

That's ridiculous...to deny sheer impact injury in this game...it's happened to the best.

Is that heart of his the one that scores goals and assists? That makes his legs move fast?

I don't do much running around here pumping him up seems I just spend time responding to all the criticism he takes around here about his play and character.....and it's clear as day to anyone watching he's making effort and strides to improve is full ice play.

I'm happy to stand behind him moving forward. His progress will continue.

I agree the progress will continue. Playing with a winger even smaller than he is and who has an actual big heart and a burning desire to win, will continue to embarrass and inspire him.

Funny that a Blues fan with such admirable passion for the team can …overlook the gigantic faults in a player who got the Chief fired because of lazy and thoughtless play, and who let his team down in such a shameful way
I never think of either of the above acts as “Bleeding Blue”.

The Stanley Cup Playoffs ARE a freight trains. That is why it is the hardest trophy to win I’m ALL sports.
A Champion doesn’t let one bad hit …. Make him quit giving 100%.

Kyrou did not get Berube fired, c’mon man, as someone that professes to have been in the game as much as you say you should know that all coaches have a shelf life, and Chief hit his here.

Of course he did.
The thousands who booed Kyrou at the Enterprise Center the first game after Chief was canned understood the equation.

Kyrou had been making early Brett Hull look like a Selke winner for a long time, but the straw that broke the camel’s back was this- they had been using Kyrou on the point on the PP and he could not keep a puck in. If keeping it in meant taking a hit, he let the other player walk away with it for a breakaway. Chief couldnt take it anymore and called his wimpy (donkey) out for it after a game where it cost the team a “W”. Kyrou was too much of a Prima Donna to accept this valid criticism and Thomas backed him up. That was 128 million dollars of boys who had never won a (buzz) thing against a Cup-Winning Coach who was, regrettably, easier to let go.

It was one of the darkest moments in the history of the franchise in my opinion.

Not quite. He was booed after the firing because when approached by the media for a statement he dared to not sob and gnash his teeth over it. Talk about a hot take by that crowd.
My question would be, who thought it was a good idea to put him on the point in the first place? He should have been in the slot or at least half boards for the O and do you really want a (at the time) defensive liability as your last line of defense?
Darkest moment? Quite the hyperbole there, it doesn’t even crack the top 20

He was also highly immature with how he initially handled things. Then he made amends publicly and the crowd, and the fans, have since been behind him.

And his play has dramatically improved since that "incident".

We'll see who's right and wrong on JK going forward. Whether some people will admit to it or not remains in doubt.

I have always admitted it. When Kyrou made baby steps toward playing like you would expect an incredibly gifted 6’1” 196 pound player to play, I gave him the benefit of the doubt.When he got paired with a player who actually could outplay him, because his heart was bigger, I was elated.
When I saw how shallow all that progress turned out to be after one really hard hit, it was as if the old Kyrou never left.

No GM will give up anything decent for him, it appears.

Good for you Harry.

Your bias is over the top and totally clouding your assessment with a bunch of unproven claims. It's hard to read your harping over and over and not countering it. And pretending this one guy ruined your dream of round 2 is just ridiculous.

You want him gone. Get that. Enough already. And if he turns into where I think he's STILL going you will be wrong for your position because this isn't some matter of fact that you claim.

You're a good fan Harry but your wrong slandering the guy the way you have.

I'm done, at least for now.

If the Blues move him, I hope it's a great value coming in, I will support that if it is for sake of the team.

Character and heart mean way more to me than a legion of other fans.
You dont lay down in a game seven.
Ever.

[netboy65]

Yes.

It's a culture thing. You simply can't have one of your highest paid players decide when he wants to play. He proved that he can't get through one round. You need four. With a lot of young players coming into the fold, you simply can't have that guy in your room.

He plays when he wants. If you demote him down the lineup, he pouts.

Frankly, I'm surprised no one has gone Bortuzzo on him in practice.

He got hit by a freight train to start that series.

But let's forget that.

That never stops a big heart though, does it?
But let’s forget that.

The playoffs will always have freight trains. Some can still play well, even though the threat is always there.

That's ridiculous...to deny sheer impact injury in this game...it's happened to the best.

Is that heart of his the one that scores goals and assists? That makes his legs move fast?

I don't do much running around here pumping him up seems I just spend time responding to all the criticism he takes around here about his play and character.....and it's clear as day to anyone watching he's making effort and strides to improve is full ice play.

I'm happy to stand behind him moving forward. His progress will continue.

I agree the progress will continue. Playing with a winger even smaller than he is and who has an actual big heart and a burning desire to win, will continue to embarrass and inspire him.

Funny that a Blues fan with such admirable passion for the team can …overlook the gigantic faults in a player who got the Chief fired because of lazy and thoughtless play, and who let his team down in such a shameful way
I never think of either of the above acts as “Bleeding Blue”.

The Stanley Cup Playoffs ARE a freight trains. That is why it is the hardest trophy to win I’m ALL sports.
A Champion doesn’t let one bad hit …. Make him quit giving 100%.

Kyrou did not get Berube fired, c’mon man, as someone that professes to have been in the game as much as you say you should know that all coaches have a shelf life, and Chief hit his here.

Of course he did.
The thousands who booed Kyrou at the Enterprise Center the first game after Chief was canned understood the equation.

Kyrou had been making early Brett Hull look like a Selke winner for a long time, but the straw that broke the camel’s back was this- they had been using Kyrou on the point on the PP and he could not keep a puck in. If keeping it in meant taking a hit, he let the other player walk away with it for a breakaway. Chief couldnt take it anymore and called his wimpy (donkey) out for it after a game where it cost the team a “W”. Kyrou was too much of a Prima Donna to accept this valid criticism and Thomas backed him up. That was 128 million dollars of boys who had never won a (buzz) thing against a Cup-Winning Coach who was, regrettably, easier to let go.

It was one of the darkest moments in the history of the franchise in my opinion.

Not quite. He was booed after the firing because when approached by the media for a statement he dared to not sob and gnash his teeth over it. Talk about a hot take by that crowd.
My question would be, who thought it was a good idea to put him on the point in the first place? He should have been in the slot or at least half boards for the O and do you really want a (at the time) defensive liability as your last line of defense?
Darkest moment? Quite the hyperbole there, it doesn’t even crack the top 20

He was also highly immature with how he initially handled things. Then he made amends publicly and the crowd, and the fans, have since been behind him.

And his play has dramatically improved since that "incident".

We'll see who's right and wrong on JK going forward. Whether some people will admit to it or not remains in doubt.

I have always admitted it. When Kyrou made baby steps toward playing like you would expect an incredibly gifted 6’1” 196 pound player to play, I gave him the benefit of the doubt.When he got paired with a player who actually could outplay him, because his heart was bigger, I was elated.
When I saw how shallow all that progress turned out to be after one really hard hit, it was as if the old Kyrou never left.

No GM will give up anything decent for him, it appears.

Good for you Harry.

Your bias is over the top and totally clouding your assessment with a bunch of unproven claims. It's hard to read your harping over and over and not countering it. And pretending this one guy ruined your dream of round 2 is just ridiculous.

You want him gone. Get that. Enough already. And if he turns into where I think he's STILL going you will be wrong for your position because this isn't some matter of fact that you claim.

You're a good fan Harry but your wrong slandering the guy the way you have.

I'm done, at least for now.

If the Blues move him, I hope it's a great value coming in, I will support that if it is for sake of the team.

Character and heart mean way more to me than a legion of other fans.
You dont lay down in a game seven.
Ever.

No one did.

[skilles]

Pretty sure the dude scored in game 7

[Harry York 37]

Pretty sure the dude scored in game 7

It was a tap in on a broken play. No one was around. On a good day, my cat could have pawed that one in.
Did you see it?

There was 59 minutes and fifty plus seconds of hockey where he … didn’t really care.

[skilles]

Pretty sure the dude scored in game 7

It was a tap in on a broken play. No one was around. On a good day, my cat could have pawed that one in.
Did you see it?

There was 59 minutes and fifty plus seconds of hockey where he … didn’t really care.

Thats just ignorant

[Harry York 37]

He got hit by a freight train to start that series.

But let's forget that.

That never stops a big heart though, does it?
But let’s forget that.

The playoffs will always have freight trains. Some can still play well, even though the threat is always there.

That's ridiculous...to deny sheer impact injury in this game...it's happened to the best.

Is that heart of his the one that scores goals and assists? That makes his legs move fast?

I don't do much running around here pumping him up seems I just spend time responding to all the criticism he takes around here about his play and character.....and it's clear as day to anyone watching he's making effort and strides to improve is full ice play.

I'm happy to stand behind him moving forward. His progress will continue.

I agree the progress will continue. Playing with a winger even smaller than he is and who has an actual big heart and a burning desire to win, will continue to embarrass and inspire him.

Funny that a Blues fan with such admirable passion for the team can …overlook the gigantic faults in a player who got the Chief fired because of lazy and thoughtless play, and who let his team down in such a shameful way
I never think of either of the above acts as “Bleeding Blue”.

The Stanley Cup Playoffs ARE a freight trains. That is why it is the hardest trophy to win I’m ALL sports.
A Champion doesn’t let one bad hit …. Make him quit giving 100%.

Kyrou did not get Berube fired, c’mon man, as someone that professes to have been in the game as much as you say you should know that all coaches have a shelf life, and Chief hit his here.

Of course he did.
The thousands who booed Kyrou at the Enterprise Center the first game after Chief was canned understood the equation.

Kyrou had been making early Brett Hull look like a Selke winner for a long time, but the straw that broke the camel’s back was this- they had been using Kyrou on the point on the PP and he could not keep a puck in. If keeping it in meant taking a hit, he let the other player walk away with it for a breakaway. Chief couldnt take it anymore and called his wimpy (donkey) out for it after a game where it cost the team a “W”. Kyrou was too much of a Prima Donna to accept this valid criticism and Thomas backed him up. That was 128 million dollars of boys who had never won a (buzz) thing against a Cup-Winning Coach who was, regrettably, easier to let go.

It was one of the darkest moments in the history of the franchise in my opinion.

Not quite. He was booed after the firing because when approached by the media for a statement he dared to not sob and gnash his teeth over it. Talk about a hot take by that crowd.
My question would be, who thought it was a good idea to put him on the point in the first place? He should have been in the slot or at least half boards for the O and do you really want a (at the time) defensive liability as your last line of defense?
Darkest moment? Quite the hyperbole there, it doesn’t even crack the top 20

He was also highly immature with how he initially handled things. Then he made amends publicly and the crowd, and the fans, have since been behind him.

And his play has dramatically improved since that "incident".

We'll see who's right and wrong on JK going forward. Whether some people will admit to it or not remains in doubt.

I have always admitted it. When Kyrou made baby steps toward playing like you would expect an incredibly gifted 6’1” 196 pound player to play, I gave him the benefit of the doubt.When he got paired with a player who actually could outplay him, because his heart was bigger, I was elated.
When I saw how shallow all that progress turned out to be after one really hard hit, it was as if the old Kyrou never left.

No GM will give up anything decent for him, it appears.

Good for you Harry.

Your bias is over the top and totally clouding your assessment with a bunch of unproven claims. It's hard to read your harping over and over and not countering it. And pretending this one guy ruined your dream of round 2 is just ridiculous.

You want him gone. Get that. Enough already. And if he turns into where I think he's STILL going you will be wrong for your position because this isn't some matter of fact that you claim.

You're a good fan Harry but your wrong slandering the guy the way you have.

I'm done, at least for now.

If the Blues move him, I hope it's a great value coming in, I will support that if it is for sake of the team.

Character and heart mean way more to me than a legion of other fans.
You dont lay down in a game seven.
Ever.

No one did.

There were several of us here who were stunned by Kyrou’s timid and thoughtless play. Check the GDT.
You need to support that statement.

[zamadoo]

Pretty sure the dude scored in game 7

It was a tap in on a broken play. No one was around. On a good day, my cat could have pawed that one in.
Did you see it?

There was 59 minutes and fifty plus seconds of hockey where he … didn’t really care.

Thats just ignorant

He had more TOI in games we lost and less TOI in games we won. Maybe they were resting him when we had the lead?

[larueskee]

I didn't like Kyrou much until I saw him with Hollywood. Kind of want to see more of that if Hollywood is healthy.

[Harry York 37]

Pretty sure the dude scored in game 7

It was a tap in on a broken play. No one was around. On a good day, my cat could have pawed that one in.
Did you see it?

There was 59 minutes and fifty plus seconds of hockey where he … didn’t really care.

Thats just ignorant

You need to support your position.
Perhaps the most astute student of current hockey players who posts on this forum saw it. I saw it. Several others saw it. Ed Olcztck BROADCAST it on national television and that is your argument?
You saw Kyrou tap in a gift goal and he is vindicated?
That is amongst the weakest sauce I have come across.

You fellows have the kool aid on tap, all the time, apparently. I will sip it, but I won’t drink it til I am blind.

[netboy65]

Pretty sure the dude scored in game 7

It was a tap in on a broken play. No one was around. On a good day, my cat could have pawed that one in.
Did you see it?

There was 59 minutes and fifty plus seconds of hockey where he … didn’t really care.

Thats just ignorant

You need to support your position.
Perhaps the most astute student of current hockey players who posts on this forum saw it. I saw it. Several others saw it. Ed Olcztck BROADCAST it on national television and that is your argument?
You saw Kyrou tap in a gift goal and he is vindicated?
That is amongst the weakest sauce I have come across.

You fellows have the kool aid on tap, all the time, apparently. I will sip it, but I won’t drink it til I am blind.

Edzo is who you’re banking on? The next time he says something worth listening to will be the first.
At least he was down the ice and in position to do the “tap in” if you recall we stripped the d so it went the other way rather quickly.
22 other guys on the team couldn’t score at all, so it is something.

[skilles]

Pretty sure the dude scored in game 7

It was a tap in on a broken play. No one was around. On a good day, my cat could have pawed that one in.
Did you see it?

There was 59 minutes and fifty plus seconds of hockey where he … didn’t really care.

Thats just ignorant

You need to support your position.
Perhaps the most astute student of current hockey players who posts on this forum saw it. I saw it. Several others saw it. Ed Olcztck BROADCAST it on national television and that is your argument?
You saw Kyrou tap in a gift goal and he is vindicated?
That is amongst the weakest sauce I have come across.



You fellows have the kool aid on tap, all the time, apparently. I will sip it, but I won’t drink it til I am blind.

lol Support my position? Your position is you didn't like the way he scored in game 7....