Jordan Kyrou

[zamadoo]

I’ll say no. The Blues are in a position of strength in that they don’t NEED to trade him. He’s a legit 1st line caliber winger, good for 30+ goals every year, one of the top 5 fastest skaters in the game, insane chemistry with Holloway. If DA can’t trade him for a young 2C or top pairing or #3 d-man (who’s a RHD), he won’t trade him and the Blues keep their all-star on a great contract through his prime. I don’t see anyone out there who’s available and fits the bill in a trade, though. So, no, he won’t be traded

I don't necessarily disagree, but he's a legit 1st line caliber winger who does not play on our 1st line and has routinely been taken off of Thomas' wing due to lack of chemistry. I'm not sure he has insane chemistry with Holloway as much as Holloway drives play and makes his linemates better.

I don’t really focus on which line the players are on - I don’t think anyone in the world would call Neighbours a 1st line winger. It doesn’t really matter to me which line Kyrou plays on - regardless, he’s a 1st line wing “caliber” player.

I agree, and my point is that on this Blues team, the 1st line caliber player is not playing on the 1st line because he doesn't fit there. Therefore it might make sense to trade him to another team. It is also arguable that he's 1st line caliber in terms of his offense, but not overall game. Interesting how similar that is to Tarasenko who was never allowed anywhere near ROR's line. And now we have Schenn still assuming 2nd line C duties with a mostly one-dimensional RW and an all-out 2-way LW.

[IsDurbanodoingtime]

Given the imperative to make the playoffs for this franchise ( for revenue reasons alone), if the braintrust unloads kyrou they better have his regular season goal replacement lined up. Other wingers are progressing but certainly not a given. Probably thinking between snuggerud, bolduc y expecting at least 25 goal seasons. If the purported deal involves Dach, I think he remains a Blue. Posted t earlier, but montreal drive by talk radio with marinaro last week reported that Ottawa was really interested in kyrou. Much rather work a deal with them centered around Shane Pinto plus.

[DawgDad]

If he gets traded it's going to be a blockbuster trade. Kyrou is not really a problem, he's a solution. He may not be the ideal solution but at his level of production and salary and age signed for five more seasons he's an incredible asset.

Over the past four seasons the Blues as a team have been good twice, out of the playoffs twice. Kyrou's +/- follows the same track. He's an offense creator who happens to play wing instead of center.

I think the issue here is more Kyrou's contract clause than Kyrou. If he remains a 30+ goal scorer he'll have 300+ goals by the end of his contract.

[zamadoo]

Given the imperative to make the playoffs for this franchise ( for revenue reasons alone), if the braintrust unloads kyrou they better have his regular season goal replacement lined up. Other wingers are progressing but certainly not a given. Probably thinking between snuggerud, bolduc y expecting at least 25 goal seasons. If the purported deal involves Dach, I think he remains a Blue. Posted t earlier, but montreal drive by talk radio with marinaro last week reported that Ottawa was really interested in kyrou. Much rather work a deal with them centered around Shane Pinto plus.

Pinto+Perron Let's Go!

[skilles]

If he gets traded it's going to be a blockbuster trade. Kyrou is not really a problem, he's a solution. He may not be the ideal solution but at his level of production and salary and age signed for five more seasons he's an incredible asset.

Over the past four seasons the Blues as a team have been good twice, out of the playoffs twice. Kyrou's +/- follows the same track. He's an offense creator who happens to play wing instead of center.

I think the issue here is more Kyrou's contract clause than Kyrou. If he remains a 30+ goal scorer he'll have 300+ goals by the end of his contract.

I think the issue is the way our line up projects in 2 or 3 years

[skeezix]

No.

Eventually, his $8 million contract might be acceptable, but for a mid-market team, it's excessive. It hamstrings the Blues in acquiring other talent.

[DawgDad]

If he gets traded it's going to be a blockbuster trade. Kyrou is not really a problem, he's a solution. He may not be the ideal solution but at his level of production and salary and age signed for five more seasons he's an incredible asset.

Over the past four seasons the Blues as a team have been good twice, out of the playoffs twice. Kyrou's +/- follows the same track. He's an offense creator who happens to play wing instead of center.

I think the issue here is more Kyrou's contract clause than Kyrou. If he remains a 30+ goal scorer he'll have 300+ goals by the end of his contract.

I think the issue is the way our line up projects in 2 or 3 years

Down the road SOMEBODY will get traded. It could still be Kyrou but he would have to approve. It's quite a risk to trade a reliable 27yo 70-point guy on the hope or belief that others will step up. Any trade including Kyrou must return a needed valuable player or players, or don't do it. The Blues project to be a playoff team, undermining that with a bad trade would just be foolish.

[bluetunehead]

I’m just not sure I see it. He’s an established player on what will be a very decent contract in a couple years. If you’re the Blues you probably can’t afford to move him for futures and question marks. You’re ready to try and compete now and the return has to be ready, too. But as Armstrong said folks aren’t out there offering up young 2Cs (or RHDs) very often.

[bud white]

Yes.

It's a culture thing. You simply can't have one of your highest paid players decide when he wants to play. He proved that he can't get through one round. You need four. With a lot of young players coming into the fold, you simply can't have that guy in your room.

He plays when he wants. If you demote him down the lineup, he pouts.

Frankly, I'm surprised no one has gone Bortuzzo on him in practice.

[theograce]

He proved that he can't get through one round.

So did Buchnevich and Thomas

[netboy65]

Yes.

It's a culture thing. You simply can't have one of your highest paid players decide when he wants to play. He proved that he can't get through one round. You need four. With a lot of young players coming into the fold, you simply can't have that guy in your room.

He plays when he wants. If you demote him down the lineup, he pouts.

Frankly, I'm surprised no one has gone Bortuzzo on him in practice.

He got through 2 rounds and was our leading scorer in ‘22.
He was tied for our leading goal scorer this year in playoffs and was our leading scorer and plus minus leader during the season. One person does not determine the outcome of a series (outside of a goalie)

[skilles]

If he gets traded it's going to be a blockbuster trade. Kyrou is not really a problem, he's a solution. He may not be the ideal solution but at his level of production and salary and age signed for five more seasons he's an incredible asset.

Over the past four seasons the Blues as a team have been good twice, out of the playoffs twice. Kyrou's +/- follows the same track. He's an offense creator who happens to play wing instead of center.

I think the issue here is more Kyrou's contract clause than Kyrou. If he remains a 30+ goal scorer he'll have 300+ goals by the end of his contract.

I think the issue is the way our line up projects in 2 or 3 years

Down the road SOMEBODY will get traded. It could still be Kyrou but he would have to approve. It's quite a risk to trade a reliable 27yo 70-point guy on the hope or belief that others will step up. Any trade including Kyrou must return a needed valuable player or players, or don't do it. The Blues project to be a playoff team, undermining that with a bad trade would just be foolish.

I kind of thought it went without saying that the return has to be good, outside maybe a few crazy people I think most understand that.

I think one disagreement is probably about established value VS future value, I will disagree with a lot of people on that as I have an eternal building mind set and would be happy with a highly valuable future D and most think its gotta be highly valuable right now.

I understand both sides of that but like I said I'm just wired that way. Nothing is absolute so there are exceptions but I believe if for the most part you always look towards the future the now takes care of itself. Obviously the hard part about that is the early stages of it but once you establish that mind set and stick to it things usually go very well.

[seattleblue]

No, because I don't believe the right return is there. If the right return were there it's pretty clear that trigger is getting pulled. But, the guy was Dobson and that is done, so no it's not happening.

In 48 hrs we will be talking about shipping Buch out and Kyrou is here for the long haul

[the miracle]

For reasons a lot of other people have said, I'm a No as well.

I slightly question if he was even being shopped. Asked about? Maybe. But actively shopped? Not sure.

[Younghopp1991]

If he gets traded it's going to be a blockbuster trade. Kyrou is not really a problem, he's a solution. He may not be the ideal solution but at his level of production and salary and age signed for five more seasons he's an incredible asset.

Over the past four seasons the Blues as a team have been good twice, out of the playoffs twice. Kyrou's +/- follows the same track. He's an offense creator who happens to play wing instead of center.

I think the issue here is more Kyrou's contract clause than Kyrou. If he remains a 30+ goal scorer he'll have 300+ goals by the end of his contract.

I agree 100% with everything. Kyrou’s biggest things going against him are the clause deadline and the fict that hes not a finished product yet. Some will argue he might be. I will not agree that a guy that has progressed in every one of his downfall attributes season by season is finished growing.

I do agree that he still has issues. I also think that hit shook him up pretty good. Just not to a point where he couldnt/wouldnt play. But we have the “no excuses” motto in the post season presser and im glad we did. I dont think it was a shot at anyone. More so because we came out initiators and you cant go home crying after that.


Kyrou has been one of my favorite players for a while now. He needed to have a better playoff but the man wasnt invisible. I believe he will figure out how to play harder on the puck as he continues to put on weight. Im excited to see how he comes into preseason if hes with us. If hes not with is then i hope we are better for it.

[the miracle]

No, because I don't believe the right return is there. If the right return were there it's pretty clear that trigger is getting pulled. But, the guy was Dobson and that is done, so no it's not happening.

In 48 hrs we will be talking about shipping Buch out and Kyrou is here for the long haul

I like Buch, but I'd be happier with him gone than Kyrou. Buch's contract scares me a lot more than Kyrou's.