Jordan Kyrou

[netboy65]

The worst moment in Blues history for me is the Yzerman double OT goal in 1996 off Jon Casey. I still wince every time that replay is shown.

Gassoff
The 70s in general
Ralston Purina dumping the team on the league’s porch
Saskatoon
Mullen trade
Snipe hunt
Butcher deal
Brind’Amour trade
Kypreos
Judge Houston
Hull divorce
Mike Danton
Bill Laurie throwing his hands up and abandoning the team
The mid 00’s on the ice
Golf cart
All those we’ve lost, Kelly, Plagers, Wick et al
1.6 seconds

And those are just off the top of my head. I’m sure if I thought some more I’d have some more

[somni]

The worst moment in Blues history for me is the Yzerman double OT goal in 1996 off Jon Casey. I still wince every time that replay is shown.

Gassoff
The 70s in general
Ralston Purina dumping the team on the league’s porch
Saskatoon
Mullen trade
Snipe hunt
Butcher deal
Brind’Amour trade
Kypreos
Judge Houston
Hull divorce
Mike Danton
Bill Laurie throwing his hands up and abandoning the team
The mid 00’s on the ice
Golf cart
All those we’ve lost, Kelly, Plagers, Wick et al
1.6 seconds

And those are just off the top of my head. I’m sure if I thought some more I’d have some more

Dang...that's quite a list. Congrats (sort of) on the quick memory.

[Pierre McGuire]

Worst moment in Blues history is the Gassoff tragedy….still bothers me to this day.
2nd worst moment…Trading Doug Gilmour

[britishblue]

I actually think Army is the problem with the coaching stuff, he lets it go on to long.

Should have never got to that point with Berube, Kyrou, Thomas etc. Hitch and Oshie is another example.

Army way late on the trigger in both situations IMO.

Yes and no.

I think Army knows how hard it is to find a good coach so when he has one he gives them quite a bit of rope and is reluctant to just get rid if there isnt a clear upgrade.

He was happy to bin Payne, Yeo and Bannister relatively quickly. Hitch and Berube stayed for longer, but under Hitch we were a 100+ point team for basically 6 straight years and Berube won us a cup.

I can almost guarentee that the same would happen with Monty if Army was still in charge.

[skilles]

I actually think Army is the problem with the coaching stuff, he lets it go on to long.

Should have never got to that point with Berube, Kyrou, Thomas etc. Hitch and Oshie is another example.

Army way late on the trigger in both situations IMO.

Yes and no.

I think Army knows how hard it is to find a good coach so when he has one he gives them quite a bit of rope and is reluctant to just get rid if there isnt a clear upgrade.

He was happy to bin Payne, Yeo and Bannister relatively quickly. Hitch and Berube stayed for longer, but under Hitch we were a 100+ point team for basically 6 straight years and Berube won us a cup.

I can almost guarentee that the same would happen with Monty if Army was still in charge.

Oh I'm sure that is the case, IMO he needs to learn when the shelf life has expired it has expired...great coach or not. In some cases its even shorter for the great coaches.

Hitch and Berube did great things here but spoiled milk has to be thrown out no matter how good it once was. It doesn't get better if you let it sit longer.

[netboy65]

Worst moment in Blues history is the Gassoff tragedy….still bothers me to this day.
2nd worst moment…Trading Doug Gilmour

The Gilmour trade was truly awful, but to me the Mullen and Brind’Amour deals were equally as bad.
The worst part is, none of them HAD to happen. Doug was dealt due to the babysitter scandal which was later exposed as a lie, Mullen because Ornest was just a cheapskate, and Rod because Sutter didn’t like him

[ScalesofJustice]

Nope

Kyrou is a scoring machine. You don't get rid of that kind of talent. Too hard to find in this league.

[Sudsy 11]

The worst moment in Blues history for me is the Yzerman double OT goal in 1996 off Jon Casey. I still wince every time that replay is shown.

Gassoff
The 70s in general
Ralston Purina dumping the team on the league’s porch
Saskatoon
Mullen trade
Snipe hunt
Butcher deal
Brind’Amour trade
Kypreos
Judge Houston
Hull divorce
Mike Danton
Bill Laurie throwing his hands up and abandoning the team
The mid 00’s on the ice
Golf cart
All those we’ve lost, Kelly, Plagers, Wick et al
1.6 seconds

And those are just off the top of my head. I’m sure if I thought some more I’d have some more

I was referring to on ice. This is a great list.

Gasser motorcycle accident was awful. Great enforcer and was becoming a good defenseman.
Loved the 70s. Was a young kid so always was optimistic and we were season ticket holders until moving from St. Louis in 1978.
Missing the draft in 1983 completely is insane.
None of us we be here on this Blues fan forum if Harry Ornest didn't save the team.
I forgive the Mullen trade because as cheap as Ornest was he saved the team.
You'd think after Snipe Hunt Golf Cart wouldn't have happened. Wickenheiser was able to give us the Monday Night miracle before tragically dying.
Butcher deal was awful. Sutter was my favorite player and a decent coach, but influenced some awful Blues trades.
IMO the worst Blues trades in Blues history trading Brind"Amour.
Kypreos taking out Fuhr led to Casey being in net for the Yzerman goal. However, Casey did play well overall subbing.
The league hated the Blues Free Agent signings which was taboo at the time. Lose 5 1st round picks for Stevens then lose Stevens to sign Shanahan.
Hull stardom was great for the organization and St. Louis. Glad Hull was able to win a couple of Cups after leaving.
Was at the game in San Jose that Danton got arrested afterwards. The Blues were eliminated by San Jose, Danton was arrested, then the strike occurred. That was also Pronger's last game as a Blue. Sharks fans serenaded my buddy and I leaving "What's the matter with Pronger, he's a bum".
Will always hate all Lauries and Wal Mart.
Didn't mind those 00's down years. JD came in and for the first time in Blues history they starting building through the draft.
We'll never know how good EJ would have been if the golf cart incident didn't happen.
The Blues that died young hurt the most Gasser, Wickenheiser, Demitra.
1.6 stung but over it. Never thought the Blues would win the Cup this year. I'm older and we've won the Cup. The on ice doesn't hurt as much anymore.

[Army's Mom]

What was the snipe hunt incident?

[Sudsy 11]

What was the snipe hunt incident?

Don't know all of the details, but a Blues team outing that left Doug Wickenheiser with a major knee injury.

[netboy65]

What was the snipe hunt incident?

Don't know all of the details, but a Blues team outing that left Doug Wickenheiser with a major knee injury.

That’s basically it in a nutshell. Enough for our purposes here. Snipe and golf cart were the results of “boys being boys” Math lesson: alcohol+youth= stupidity

[netboy65]

The worst moment in Blues history for me is the Yzerman double OT goal in 1996 off Jon Casey. I still wince every time that replay is shown.

Gassoff
The 70s in general
Ralston Purina dumping the team on the league’s porch
Saskatoon
Mullen trade
Snipe hunt
Butcher deal
Brind’Amour trade
Kypreos
Judge Houston
Hull divorce
Mike Danton
Bill Laurie throwing his hands up and abandoning the team
The mid 00’s on the ice
Golf cart
All those we’ve lost, Kelly, Plagers, Wick et al
1.6 seconds

And those are just off the top of my head. I’m sure if I thought some more I’d have some more

I was referring to on ice. This is a great list.

Gasser motorcycle accident was awful. Great enforcer and was becoming a good defenseman.
Loved the 70s. Was a young kid so always was optimistic and we were season ticket holders until moving from St. Louis in 1978.
Missing the draft in 1983 completely is insane.
None of us we be here on this Blues fan forum if Harry Ornest didn't save the team.
I forgive the Mullen trade because as cheap as Ornest was he saved the team.
You'd think after Snipe Hunt Golf Cart wouldn't have happened. Wickenheiser was able to give us the Monday Night miracle before tragically dying.
Butcher deal was awful. Sutter was my favorite player and a decent coach, but influenced some awful Blues trades.
IMO the worst Blues trades in Blues history trading Brind"Amour.
Kypreos taking out Fuhr led to Casey being in net for the Yzerman goal. However, Casey did play well overall subbing.
The league hated the Blues Free Agent signings which was taboo at the time. Lose 5 1st round picks for Stevens then lose Stevens to sign Shanahan.
Hull stardom was great for the organization and St. Louis. Glad Hull was able to win a couple of Cups after leaving.
Was at the game in San Jose that Danton got arrested afterwards. The Blues were eliminated by San Jose, Danton was arrested, then the strike occurred. That was also Pronger's last game as a Blue. Sharks fans serenaded my buddy and I leaving "What's the matter with Pronger, he's a bum".
Will always hate all Lauries and Wal Mart.
Didn't mind those 00's down years. JD came in and for the first time in Blues history they starting building through the draft.
We'll never know how good EJ would have been if the golf cart incident didn't happen.
The Blues that died young hurt the most Gasser, Wickenheiser, Demitra.
1.6 stung but over it. Never thought the Blues would win the Cup this year. I'm older and we've won the Cup. The on ice doesn't hurt as much anymore.

Nice job fleshing some of those out. 70s were fun but some truly awful teams! I’d have to look it up but either 77-78 or 78-79 we only won 18 games all year!
IIRC Mullen was dealt cause Ornest didn’t want to pay him $100k. Laughable today. Grateful to him but boy was he cheap and his wife was the one that came up with those gawdawful unis with BLUES across the front
Oh I’m over 1.6 too, but it stung in that with most people writing this team off throughout the year, would have been super cool to make it to round 2

[Sudsy 11]

The worst moment in Blues history for me is the Yzerman double OT goal in 1996 off Jon Casey. I still wince every time that replay is shown.

Gassoff
The 70s in general
Ralston Purina dumping the team on the league’s porch
Saskatoon
Mullen trade
Snipe hunt
Butcher deal
Brind’Amour trade
Kypreos
Judge Houston
Hull divorce
Mike Danton
Bill Laurie throwing his hands up and abandoning the team
The mid 00’s on the ice
Golf cart
All those we’ve lost, Kelly, Plagers, Wick et al
1.6 seconds

And those are just off the top of my head. I’m sure if I thought some more I’d have some more

I was referring to on ice. This is a great list.

Gasser motorcycle accident was awful. Great enforcer and was becoming a good defenseman.
Loved the 70s. Was a young kid so always was optimistic and we were season ticket holders until moving from St. Louis in 1978.
Missing the draft in 1983 completely is insane.
None of us we be here on this Blues fan forum if Harry Ornest didn't save the team.
I forgive the Mullen trade because as cheap as Ornest was he saved the team.
You'd think after Snipe Hunt Golf Cart wouldn't have happened. Wickenheiser was able to give us the Monday Night miracle before tragically dying.
Butcher deal was awful. Sutter was my favorite player and a decent coach, but influenced some awful Blues trades.
IMO the worst Blues trades in Blues history trading Brind"Amour.
Kypreos taking out Fuhr led to Casey being in net for the Yzerman goal. However, Casey did play well overall subbing.
The league hated the Blues Free Agent signings which was taboo at the time. Lose 5 1st round picks for Stevens then lose Stevens to sign Shanahan.
Hull stardom was great for the organization and St. Louis. Glad Hull was able to win a couple of Cups after leaving.
Was at the game in San Jose that Danton got arrested afterwards. The Blues were eliminated by San Jose, Danton was arrested, then the strike occurred. That was also Pronger's last game as a Blue. Sharks fans serenaded my buddy and I leaving "What's the matter with Pronger, he's a bum".
Will always hate all Lauries and Wal Mart.
Didn't mind those 00's down years. JD came in and for the first time in Blues history they starting building through the draft.
We'll never know how good EJ would have been if the golf cart incident didn't happen.
The Blues that died young hurt the most Gasser, Wickenheiser, Demitra.
1.6 stung but over it. Never thought the Blues would win the Cup this year. I'm older and we've won the Cup. The on ice doesn't hurt as much anymore.

Nice job fleshing some of those out. 70s were fun but some truly awful teams! I’d have to look it up but either 77-78 or 78-79 we only won 18 games all year!
IIRC Mullen was dealt cause Ornest didn’t want to pay him $100k. Laughable today. Grateful to him but boy was he cheap and his wife was the one that came up with those gawdawful unis with BLUES across the front
Oh I’m over 1.6 too, but it stung in that with most people writing this team off throughout the year, would have been super cool to make it to round 2

Honestly it was just thrilling for me as a kid to see great teams like the Canadiens and Bruins play at the Arena in the 70s. I remember a Bruins game that the Blues were up 4-0 midway through the 2nd Period and was so excited the Blues were going to beat the mighty Bruins. Boston ended up tying it up and almost scoring to win several times in the closing minutes. The game ended in a tie and Phil Esposito slammed his stick against the boards in disgust they only got the 1 point

[Harry York 37]

Yes.

It's a culture thing. You simply can't have one of your highest paid players decide when he wants to play. He proved that he can't get through one round. You need four. With a lot of young players coming into the fold, you simply can't have that guy in your room.

He plays when he wants. If you demote him down the lineup, he pouts.

Frankly, I'm surprised no one has gone Bortuzzo on him in practice.

He got hit by a freight train to start that series.

But let's forget that.

That never stops a big heart though, does it?
But let’s forget that.

The playoffs will always have freight trains. Some can still play well, even though the threat is always there.

That's ridiculous...to deny sheer impact injury in this game...it's happened to the best.

Is that heart of his the one that scores goals and assists? That makes his legs move fast?

I don't do much running around here pumping him up seems I just spend time responding to all the criticism he takes around here about his play and character.....and it's clear as day to anyone watching he's making effort and strides to improve is full ice play.

I'm happy to stand behind him moving forward. His progress will continue.

I agree the progress will continue. Playing with a winger even smaller than he is and who has an actual big heart and a burning desire to win, will continue to embarrass and inspire him.

Funny that a Blues fan with such admirable passion for the team can …overlook the gigantic faults in a player who got the Chief fired because of lazy and thoughtless play, and who let his team down in such a shameful way
I never think of either of the above acts as “Bleeding Blue”.

The Stanley Cup Playoffs ARE a freight trains. That is why it is the hardest trophy to win I’m ALL sports.
A Champion doesn’t let one bad hit …. Make him quit giving 100%.

Kyrou did not get Berube fired, c’mon man, as someone that professes to have been in the game as much as you say you should know that all coaches have a shelf life, and Chief hit his here.

Of course he did.
The thousands who booed Kyrou at the Enterprise Center the first game after Chief was canned understood the equation.

Kyrou had been making early Brett Hull look like a Selke winner for a long time, but the straw that broke the camel’s back was this- they had been using Kyrou on the point on the PP and he could not keep a puck in. If keeping it in meant taking a hit, he let the other player walk away with it for a breakaway. Chief couldnt take it anymore and called his wimpy (donkey) out for it after a game where it cost the team a “W”. Kyrou was too much of a Prima Donna to accept this valid criticism and Thomas backed him up. That was 128 million dollars of boys who had never won a (buzz) thing against a Cup-Winning Coach who was, regrettably, easier to let go.

It was one of the darkest moments in the history of the franchise in my opinion.

Not quite. He was booed after the firing because when approached by the media for a statement he dared to not sob and gnash his teeth over it. Talk about a hot take by that crowd.
My question would be, who thought it was a good idea to put him on the point in the first place? He should have been in the slot or at least half boards for the O and do you really want a (at the time) defensive liability as your last line of defense?
Darkest moment? Quite the hyperbole there, it doesn’t even crack the top 20

They booed him because he was a major reason for the firing and his callous and self-centered comment proved he was glad he and Thomas “won”.

The other moments you listed were not issues of sabotage, determined selfish, lazy, and cowardly play… and ego.

Nevertheless, I will continue to admit it when I am wrong. Gassoff and a few others were worse in the entire history of the club.

The Kyrou booing game was the darkest moment in the last.. twenty years? A legendary Blues Coach fired because two players didn’t want to play his system. So, one of them played their preferred system in Game Seven … and the hockey world saw what a disaster that “style” is in the playoffs. Those who don’t see the game flow well enough to see it for themselves were told in no uncertain terms by a man who had 16 years in the league and at least that many employed as an analyst by teams in the league, and that is another monumental dark moment in the past twenty years. I was embarrassed to be a fan of a team that puts Kyrou’s Game Seven garbage on the ice. I believe without any doubt, if Kyrou was suffering from a bad injury, we would have heard all about it as a means to justify his “play” in that series clinching loss.
This is Armstrong’s after the series was lost- he had zero sympathy for Kyrou.

Armstrong said the hit by Stanley was a “battle wound” that players like Kyrou have to endure to understand the perseverance that’s needed in the playoffs.
“That’s something you learn,” Armstrong said. “They had circled names and they were getting their pound of flesh and he learned that. Unfortunately, he learned it the hard way. When you’re a marked man in this league, when you’re an exceptional player, people want a part of you, and he’s going to grow from that.”


When Kyrou shed his crocodile tears after the gamewhere the home crowd nearly booed him off the ice, he got some support back because, like we will be, more so after tomorrow, we are stuck with him. I WILL pray for the best, because I am a hockey fan and I want my team to be successful in the playoffs.
Maybe Kyrou will get his third playoff assist some day if he can learn playoff hockey from Holloway.

[dhsux]

Yes.

It's a culture thing. You simply can't have one of your highest paid players decide when he wants to play. He proved that he can't get through one round. You need four. With a lot of young players coming into the fold, you simply can't have that guy in your room.

He plays when he wants. If you demote him down the lineup, he pouts.

Frankly, I'm surprised no one has gone Bortuzzo on him in practice.

He got hit by a freight train to start that series.

But let's forget that.

That never stops a big heart though, does it?
But let’s forget that.

The playoffs will always have freight trains. Some can still play well, even though the threat is always there.

That's ridiculous...to deny sheer impact injury in this game...it's happened to the best.

Is that heart of his the one that scores goals and assists? That makes his legs move fast?

I don't do much running around here pumping him up seems I just spend time responding to all the criticism he takes around here about his play and character.....and it's clear as day to anyone watching he's making effort and strides to improve is full ice play.

I'm happy to stand behind him moving forward. His progress will continue.

I agree the progress will continue. Playing with a winger even smaller than he is and who has an actual big heart and a burning desire to win, will continue to embarrass and inspire him.

Funny that a Blues fan with such admirable passion for the team can …overlook the gigantic faults in a player who got the Chief fired because of lazy and thoughtless play, and who let his team down in such a shameful way
I never think of either of the above acts as “Bleeding Blue”.

The Stanley Cup Playoffs ARE a freight trains. That is why it is the hardest trophy to win I’m ALL sports.
A Champion doesn’t let one bad hit …. Make him quit giving 100%.

Kyrou did not get Berube fired, c’mon man, as someone that professes to have been in the game as much as you say you should know that all coaches have a shelf life, and Chief hit his here.

Of course he did.
The thousands who booed Kyrou at the Enterprise Center the first game after Chief was canned understood the equation.

Kyrou had been making early Brett Hull look like a Selke winner for a long time, but the straw that broke the camel’s back was this- they had been using Kyrou on the point on the PP and he could not keep a puck in. If keeping it in meant taking a hit, he let the other player walk away with it for a breakaway. Chief couldnt take it anymore and called his wimpy (donkey) out for it after a game where it cost the team a “W”. Kyrou was too much of a Prima Donna to accept this valid criticism and Thomas backed him up. That was 128 million dollars of boys who had never won a (buzz) thing against a Cup-Winning Coach who was, regrettably, easier to let go.

It was one of the darkest moments in the history of the franchise in my opinion.

Not quite. He was booed after the firing because when approached by the media for a statement he dared to not sob and gnash his teeth over it. Talk about a hot take by that crowd.
My question would be, who thought it was a good idea to put him on the point in the first place? He should have been in the slot or at least half boards for the O and do you really want a (at the time) defensive liability as your last line of defense?
Darkest moment? Quite the hyperbole there, it doesn’t even crack the top 20

He was also highly immature with how he initially handled things. Then he made amends publicly and the crowd, and the fans, have since been behind him.

And his play has dramatically improved since that "incident".

We'll see who's right and wrong on JK going forward. Whether some people will admit to it or not remains in doubt.

[Harry York 37]

Yes.

It's a culture thing. You simply can't have one of your highest paid players decide when he wants to play. He proved that he can't get through one round. You need four. With a lot of young players coming into the fold, you simply can't have that guy in your room.

He plays when he wants. If you demote him down the lineup, he pouts.

Frankly, I'm surprised no one has gone Bortuzzo on him in practice.

He got hit by a freight train to start that series.

But let's forget that.

That never stops a big heart though, does it?
But let’s forget that.

The playoffs will always have freight trains. Some can still play well, even though the threat is always there.

That's ridiculous...to deny sheer impact injury in this game...it's happened to the best.

Is that heart of his the one that scores goals and assists? That makes his legs move fast?

I don't do much running around here pumping him up seems I just spend time responding to all the criticism he takes around here about his play and character.....and it's clear as day to anyone watching he's making effort and strides to improve is full ice play.

I'm happy to stand behind him moving forward. His progress will continue.

I agree the progress will continue. Playing with a winger even smaller than he is and who has an actual big heart and a burning desire to win, will continue to embarrass and inspire him.

Funny that a Blues fan with such admirable passion for the team can …overlook the gigantic faults in a player who got the Chief fired because of lazy and thoughtless play, and who let his team down in such a shameful way
I never think of either of the above acts as “Bleeding Blue”.

The Stanley Cup Playoffs ARE a freight trains. That is why it is the hardest trophy to win I’m ALL sports.
A Champion doesn’t let one bad hit …. Make him quit giving 100%.

Kyrou did not get Berube fired, c’mon man, as someone that professes to have been in the game as much as you say you should know that all coaches have a shelf life, and Chief hit his here.

Of course he did.
The thousands who booed Kyrou at the Enterprise Center the first game after Chief was canned understood the equation.

Kyrou had been making early Brett Hull look like a Selke winner for a long time, but the straw that broke the camel’s back was this- they had been using Kyrou on the point on the PP and he could not keep a puck in. If keeping it in meant taking a hit, he let the other player walk away with it for a breakaway. Chief couldnt take it anymore and called his wimpy (donkey) out for it after a game where it cost the team a “W”. Kyrou was too much of a Prima Donna to accept this valid criticism and Thomas backed him up. That was 128 million dollars of boys who had never won a (buzz) thing against a Cup-Winning Coach who was, regrettably, easier to let go.

It was one of the darkest moments in the history of the franchise in my opinion.

Not quite. He was booed after the firing because when approached by the media for a statement he dared to not sob and gnash his teeth over it. Talk about a hot take by that crowd.
My question would be, who thought it was a good idea to put him on the point in the first place? He should have been in the slot or at least half boards for the O and do you really want a (at the time) defensive liability as your last line of defense?
Darkest moment? Quite the hyperbole there, it doesn’t even crack the top 20

He was also highly immature with how he initially handled things. Then he made amends publicly and the crowd, and the fans, have since been behind him.

And his play has dramatically improved since that "incident".

We'll see who's right and wrong on JK going forward. Whether some people will admit to it or not remains in doubt.

I have always admitted it. When Kyrou made baby steps toward playing like you would expect an incredibly gifted 6’1” 196 pound player to play, I gave him the benefit of the doubt.When he got paired with a player who actually could outplay him, because his heart was bigger, I was elated.
When I saw how shallow all that progress turned out to be after one really hard hit, it was as if the old Kyrou never left.

No GM will give up anything decent for him, it appears.