It's a culture thing. You simply can't have one of your highest paid players decide when he wants to play. He proved that he can't get through one round. You need four. With a lot of young players coming into the fold, you simply can't have that guy in your room.
He plays when he wants. If you demote him down the lineup, he pouts.
Frankly, I'm surprised no one has gone Bortuzzo on him in practice.
He got hit by a freight train to start that series.
But let's forget that.
That never stops a big heart though, does it?
But let’s forget that.
The playoffs will always have freight trains. Some can still play well, even though the threat is always there.
That's ridiculous...to deny sheer impact injury in this game...it's happened to the best.
Is that heart of his the one that scores goals and assists? That makes his legs move fast?
I don't do much running around here pumping him up seems I just spend time responding to all the criticism he takes around here about his play and character.....and it's clear as day to anyone watching he's making effort and strides to improve is full ice play.
I'm happy to stand behind him moving forward. His progress will continue.
I agree the progress will continue. Playing with a winger even smaller than he is and who has an actual big heart and a burning desire to win, will continue to embarrass and inspire him.
Funny that a Blues fan with such admirable passion for the team can …overlook the gigantic faults in a player who got the Chief fired because of lazy and thoughtless play, and who let his team down in such a shameful way
I never think of either of the above acts as “Bleeding Blue”.
The Stanley Cup Playoffs ARE a freight trains. That is why it is the hardest trophy to win I’m ALL sports.
A Champion doesn’t let one bad hit …. Make him quit giving 100%.
Kyrou did not get Berube fired, c’mon man, as someone that professes to have been in the game as much as you say you should know that all coaches have a shelf life, and Chief hit his here.
Of course he did.
The thousands who booed Kyrou at the Enterprise Center the first game after Chief was canned understood the equation.
Kyrou had been making early Brett Hull look like a Selke winner for a long time, but the straw that broke the camel’s back was this- they had been using Kyrou on the point on the PP and he could not keep a puck in. If keeping it in meant taking a hit, he let the other player walk away with it for a breakaway. Chief couldnt take it anymore and called his wimpy (donkey) out for it after a game where it cost the team a “W”. Kyrou was too much of a Prima Donna to accept this valid criticism and Thomas backed him up. That was 128 million dollars of boys who had never won a (buzz) thing against a Cup-Winning Coach who was, regrettably, easier to let go.
It was one of the darkest moments in the history of the franchise in my opinion.
Harry York 37 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 11:31 am
No, for two reasons.
First,the return is not what a Doug Armstrong will settle for.
Second, the return might never be there because what GM wants to boast to his fan base, “ I just landed the guy described two short months ago on network television as “Showing the least compete I have ever seen in a Game Seven”?
Bud White- brother I am with you. Dressing a disinterested 6’1” 196 pound Nancy boy in the Stanley Cup playoffs is about as ugly a look as you might find. Showing Zach Sanford the right way to play Blues hockey ain’t the same as slapping some sense into the kid who got Craig Berube fired.
We will be stuck with him for the next five years.
Another year of Holloway’s example will do him some good.
It will be hard to forget how astoundingly painful it was to watch him let his teammates down when they needed him the most.
For what it’s worth it looks like Kyrou is putting in the work this offseason.
While specific details about Kyrou's offseason routine haven't been made public, during the season he was often seen staying after practice to work on his skating, shot mechanics, and overall game—sometimes alongside Holloway. There's no confirmed info on what he's doing this offseason, so if you have any updates, feel free to share
I can't see Army getting the value back that would make it okay.
Any trade would have Kyrou as the best player and leave the team with a bigger hole at scoring goals. Then we already have.
We have only a couple of players who's first instinct is to go to the net. Replacing one with another 200' corner guy. Doesn't help when teams stop Our Defense from point shots.
A under 23 nhl skilled center with top potential and a first. Plus. Might be enough
Cahokanut wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 13:28 pm
I can't see Army getting the value back that would make it okay.
Any trade would have Kyrou as the best player and leave the team with a bigger hole at scoring goals. Then we already have.
We have only a couple of players who's first instinct is to go to the net. Replacing one with another 200' corner guy. Doesn't help when teams stop Our Defense from point shots.
A under 23 nhl skilled center with top potential and a first. Plus. Might be enough
Cahokanut wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 13:28 pm
I can't see Army getting the value back that would make it okay.
Any trade would have Kyrou as the best player and leave the team with a bigger hole at scoring goals. Then we already have.
We have only a couple of players who's first instinct is to go to the net. Replacing one with another 200' corner guy. Doesn't help when teams stop Our Defense from point shots.
A under 23 nhl skilled center with top potential and a first. Plus. Might be enough
If he is traded it should be for d
We can make a run with the defense we have. Either Binnington will keep us in games or not. We can't with Schenn at center, because we need goals to win.
Cahokanut wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 13:28 pm
I can't see Army getting the value back that would make it okay.
Any trade would have Kyrou as the best player and leave the team with a bigger hole at scoring goals. Then we already have.
We have only a couple of players who's first instinct is to go to the net. Replacing one with another 200' corner guy. Doesn't help when teams stop Our Defense from point shots.
A under 23 nhl skilled center with top potential and a first. Plus. Might be enough
If he is traded it should be for d
We can make a run with the defense we have. Either Binnington will keep us in games or not. We can't with Schenn at center, because we need goals to win.
I'd like to have a stop gap 2c next season if something makes sense but I'm looking at the next 10 year not the next year.
Harry York 37 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 11:31 am
No, for two reasons.
First,the return is not what a Doug Armstrong will settle for.
Second, the return might never be there because what GM wants to boast to his fan base, “ I just landed the guy described two short months ago on network television as “Showing the least compete I have ever seen in a Game Seven”?
Bud White- brother I am with you. Dressing a disinterested 6’1” 196 pound Nancy boy in the Stanley Cup playoffs is about as ugly a look as you might find. Showing Zach Sanford the right way to play Blues hockey ain’t the same as slapping some sense into the kid who got Craig Berube fired.
We will be stuck with him for the next five years.
Another year of Holloway’s example will do him some good.
It will be hard to forget how astoundingly painful it was to watch him let his teammates down when they needed him the most.
For what it’s worth it looks like Kyrou is putting in the work this offseason.
While specific details about Kyrou's offseason routine haven't been made public, during the season he was often seen staying after practice to work on his skating, shot mechanics, and overall game—sometimes alongside Holloway. There's no confirmed info on what he's doing this offseason, so if you have any updates, feel free to share
He’s at the Matt Nichol offseason camp. I found Kyrou on Matt Nichol instagram videos and pictures for this offseason. I’m not sure how to share a photo on here but it was easy to find. He also worked out there last year which I heard him say in an interview.
It's a culture thing. You simply can't have one of your highest paid players decide when he wants to play. He proved that he can't get through one round. You need four. With a lot of young players coming into the fold, you simply can't have that guy in your room.
He plays when he wants. If you demote him down the lineup, he pouts.
Frankly, I'm surprised no one has gone Bortuzzo on him in practice.
He got hit by a freight train to start that series.
But let's forget that.
That never stops a big heart though, does it?
But let’s forget that.
The playoffs will always have freight trains. Some can still play well, even though the threat is always there.
That's ridiculous...to deny sheer impact injury in this game...it's happened to the best.
Is that heart of his the one that scores goals and assists? That makes his legs move fast?
I don't do much running around here pumping him up seems I just spend time responding to all the criticism he takes around here about his play and character.....and it's clear as day to anyone watching he's making effort and strides to improve is full ice play.
I'm happy to stand behind him moving forward. His progress will continue.
I agree the progress will continue. Playing with a winger even smaller than he is and who has an actual big heart and a burning desire to win, will continue to embarrass and inspire him.
Funny that a Blues fan with such admirable passion for the team can …overlook the gigantic faults in a player who got the Chief fired because of lazy and thoughtless play, and who let his team down in such a shameful way
I never think of either of the above acts as “Bleeding Blue”.
The Stanley Cup Playoffs ARE a freight trains. That is why it is the hardest trophy to win I’m ALL sports.
A Champion doesn’t let one bad hit …. Make him quit giving 100%.
Kyrou did not get Berube fired, c’mon man, as someone that professes to have been in the game as much as you say you should know that all coaches have a shelf life, and Chief hit his here.
Of course he did.
The thousands who booed Kyrou at the Enterprise Center the first game after Chief was canned understood the equation.
Kyrou had been making early Brett Hull look like a Selke winner for a long time, but the straw that broke the camel’s back was this- they had been using Kyrou on the point on the PP and he could not keep a puck in. If keeping it in meant taking a hit, he let the other player walk away with it for a breakaway. Chief couldnt take it anymore and called his wimpy (donkey) out for it after a game where it cost the team a “W”. Kyrou was too much of a Prima Donna to accept this valid criticism and Thomas backed him up. That was 128 million dollars of boys who had never won a (buzz) thing against a Cup-Winning Coach who was, regrettably, easier to let go.
It was one of the darkest moments in the history of the franchise in my opinion.
Not quite. He was booed after the firing because when approached by the media for a statement he dared to not sob and gnash his teeth over it. Talk about a hot take by that crowd.
My question would be, who thought it was a good idea to put him on the point in the first place? He should have been in the slot or at least half boards for the O and do you really want a (at the time) defensive liability as your last line of defense?
Darkest moment? Quite the hyperbole there, it doesn’t even crack the top 20
I just cannot wait until Monday, when we will no longer be able to speculate and so we can move onto whomever the next player is that we should pile on for most of our problems. But one final comment/question: Yes he has a no trade clause, but has there ever been a time when a player with a NTC was approached and they agreed?
Old_Goat wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 14:19 pm
I just cannot wait until Monday, when we will no longer be able to speculate and so we can move onto whomever the next player is that we should pile on for most of our problems. But one final comment/question: Yes he has a no trade clause, but has there ever been a time when a player with a NTC was approached and they agreed?
Several.
NTC's get waived on a pretty regular basis. In terms of the Blues, the most notable was probably the Doug Weight situation.
All it really does is give the player a say in where they'll go.
