Harry York 37 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 11:31 am
No, for two reasons.
First,the return is not what a Doug Armstrong will settle for.
Second, the return might never be there because what GM wants to boast to his fan base, “ I just landed the guy described two short months ago on network television as “Showing the least compete I have ever seen in a Game Seven”?
Bud White- brother I am with you. Dressing a disinterested 6’1” 196 pound Nancy boy in the Stanley Cup playoffs is about as ugly a look as you might find. Showing Zach Sanford the right way to play Blues hockey ain’t the same as slapping some sense into the kid who got Craig Berube fired.
We will be stuck with him for the next five years.
Another year of Holloway’s example will do him some good.
It will be hard to forget how astoundingly painful it was to watch him let his teammates down when they needed him the most.
For what it’s worth it looks like Kyrou is putting in the work this offseason.
Good to hear.
I hope he trains off-season with Holloway. He seems to be the only human who can get a solid effort out of him.
If Kyrou had Holloway’s heart and desire, he might score sixty goals.
That is a huge “if”.
I don’t want Kyrou traded unless we get great value and fill either the C or RD needs (I know…..duh).
But here is my concern with keeping him……..Kyrou looked great early in Game ! And he was incredibly dangerous on almost every shift. But then Myers almost ended his life and he was pretty much invisible the rest of the series. Now I think Tyler Myers is a useless slug, but Winnipeg made an adjustment and did exactly what they needed to do to neutralize Kyrou. I’ll congratulate Winnipeg for doing what needs to be done to win in the playoffs (well,at least one round).Next year, whoever we play in round 1 will do the exact same thing to Kyrou and that’s the problem. I don’t think we end up trading him, but I’m not sure he will ever survive a 4 round run to the Cup.
I seen a photo of him working out at Matt Nichols company.
If you go to Matt Nichol’s instagram Kyrou is in the 5th group that you click on and he’s the 5th photo in that group. As far as I know he worked out there last year to.
Frank Underwood wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 12:28 pm
I don’t want Kyrou traded unless we get great value and fill either the C or RD needs (I know…..duh).
But here is my concern with keeping him……..Kyrou looked great early in Game ! And he was incredibly dangerous on almost every shift. But then Myers almost ended his life and he was pretty much invisible the rest of the series. Now I think Tyler Myers is a useless slug, but Winnipeg made an adjustment and did exactly what they needed to do to neutralize Kyrou. I’ll congratulate Winnipeg for doing what needs to be done to win in the playoffs (well,at least one round).Next year, whoever we play in round 1 will do the exact same thing to Kyrou and that’s the problem. I don’t think we end up trading him, but I’m not sure he will ever survive a 4 round run to the Cup.
It was a horrible pass by Broberg. Kyrou actually has great awareness and is very durable.
Harry York 37 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 11:31 am
No, for two reasons.
First,the return is not what a Doug Armstrong will settle for.
Second, the return might never be there because what GM wants to boast to his fan base, “ I just landed the guy described two short months ago on network television as “Showing the least compete I have ever seen in a Game Seven”?
Bud White- brother I am with you. Dressing a disinterested 6’1” 196 pound Nancy boy in the Stanley Cup playoffs is about as ugly a look as you might find. Showing Zach Sanford the right way to play Blues hockey ain’t the same as slapping some sense into the kid who got Craig Berube fired.
We will be stuck with him for the next five years.
Another year of Holloway’s example will do him some good.
It will be hard to forget how astoundingly painful it was to watch him let his teammates down when they needed him the most.
For what it’s worth it looks like Kyrou is putting in the work this offseason.
Good to hear.
I hope he trains off-season with Holloway. He seems to be the only human who can get a solid effort out of him.
If Kyrou had Holloway’s heart and desire, he might score sixty goals.
That is a huge “if”.
Not a matter of heart necessarily but I would point out Holloway was taken out of the playoffs before they even started.
We're looking for 35-40 from Kyrou this season, with a solid double-digit +/-. Anything above that is a bonus. That's a high bar for ANY player.
The Blues cannot change the past, they have to come out, work hard, and take another shot at advancing in the playoffs. That's something to look forward to, as a fan. If Kyrou stays we'll see how he handles himself, just like we'll see how the rest of the bunch handle 6 on 5, etc.
Harry York 37 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 11:31 am
No, for two reasons.
First,the return is not what a Doug Armstrong will settle for.
Second, the return might never be there because what GM wants to boast to his fan base, “ I just landed the guy described two short months ago on network television as “Showing the least compete I have ever seen in a Game Seven”?
Bud White- brother I am with you. Dressing a disinterested 6’1” 196 pound Nancy boy in the Stanley Cup playoffs is about as ugly a look as you might find. Showing Zach Sanford the right way to play Blues hockey ain’t the same as slapping some sense into the kid who got Craig Berube fired.
We will be stuck with him for the next five years.
Another year of Holloway’s example will do him some good.
It will be hard to forget how astoundingly painful it was to watch him let his teammates down when they needed him the most.
For what it’s worth it looks like Kyrou is putting in the work this offseason.
Good to hear.
I hope he trains off-season with Holloway. He seems to be the only human who can get a solid effort out of him.
If Kyrou had Holloway’s heart and desire, he might score sixty goals.
That is a huge “if”.
Imagine if Kyrou iced that puck and had goals in 2 of 27 playoff games.
Deal with the pain. Face it head on. Deflection/projection is the enemy
It's a culture thing. You simply can't have one of your highest paid players decide when he wants to play. He proved that he can't get through one round. You need four. With a lot of young players coming into the fold, you simply can't have that guy in your room.
He plays when he wants. If you demote him down the lineup, he pouts.
Frankly, I'm surprised no one has gone Bortuzzo on him in practice.
He got hit by a freight train to start that series.
But let's forget that.
That never stops a big heart though, does it?
But let’s forget that.
The playoffs will always have freight trains. Some can still play well, even though the threat is always there.
That's ridiculous...to deny sheer impact injury in this game...it's happened to the best.
Is that heart of his the one that scores goals and assists? That makes his legs move fast?
I don't do much running around here pumping him up seems I just spend time responding to all the criticism he takes around here about his play and character.....and it's clear as day to anyone watching he's making effort and strides to improve is full ice play.
I'm happy to stand behind him moving forward. His progress will continue.
I agree the progress will continue. Playing with a winger even smaller than he is and who has an actual big heart and a burning desire to win, will continue to embarrass and inspire him.
Funny that a Blues fan with such admirable passion for the team can …overlook the gigantic faults in a player who got the Chief fired because of lazy and thoughtless play, and who let his team down in such a shameful way
I never think of either of the above acts as “Bleeding Blue”.
The Stanley Cup Playoffs ARE a freight trains. That is why it is the hardest trophy to win I’m ALL sports.
A Champion doesn’t let one bad hit …. Make him quit giving 100%.
Kyrou did not get Berube fired, c’mon man, as someone that professes to have been in the game as much as you say you should know that all coaches have a shelf life, and Chief hit his here.
netboy65 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 12:41 pm
Kyrou did not get Berube fired, c’mon man, as someone that professes to have been in the game as much as you say you should know that all coaches have a shelf life, and Chief hit his here.
He was a part of it. He lost the room and obviously was going at it hard with Kyrou … and even Thomas.
netboy65 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 12:41 pm
Kyrou did not get Berube fired, c’mon man, as someone that professes to have been in the game as much as you say you should know that all coaches have a shelf life, and Chief hit his here.
He was a part of it. He lost the room and obviously was going at it hard with Kyrou … and even Thomas.
Harry York 37 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 11:31 am
No, for two reasons.
First,the return is not what a Doug Armstrong will settle for.
Second, the return might never be there because what GM wants to boast to his fan base, “ I just landed the guy described two short months ago on network television as “Showing the least compete I have ever seen in a Game Seven”?
Bud White- brother I am with you. Dressing a disinterested 6’1” 196 pound Nancy boy in the Stanley Cup playoffs is about as ugly a look as you might find. Showing Zach Sanford the right way to play Blues hockey ain’t the same as slapping some sense into the kid who got Craig Berube fired.
We will be stuck with him for the next five years.
Another year of Holloway’s example will do him some good.
It will be hard to forget how astoundingly painful it was to watch him let his teammates down when they needed him the most.
For what it’s worth it looks like Kyrou is putting in the work this offseason.
Good to hear.
I hope he trains off-season with Holloway. He seems to be the only human who can get a solid effort out of him.
If Kyrou had Holloway’s heart and desire, he might score sixty goals.
That is a huge “if”.
Not a matter of heart necessarily but I would point out Holloway was taken out of the playoffs before they even started.
We're looking for 35-40 from Kyrou this season, with a solid double-digit +/-. Anything above that is a bonus. That's a high bar for ANY player.
The Blues cannot change the past, they have to come out, work hard, and take another shot at advancing in the playoffs. That's something to look forward to, as a fan. If Kyrou stays we'll see how he handles himself, just like we'll see how the rest of the bunch handle 6 on 5, etc.
In case you missed it, Kyrou has two passes that resulted in a goal for the Blues in … 28 playoff games. He won’t play playoff hockey properly. He disappears. He can find open ice and fire off a laser. That is far from enough to win a playoff series.
That is a shining example of a lack of heart in the real season.
The much maligned Buchnevich, will make a play, even if he gets hammered and the stats make this incredibly clear. In 9 less playoff games for the Blues, Buch has 40% more points than Kyrou.
Which one will take a team deeper?
I’m saying no—the Winnipeg series really hurt his trade value. Hopefully, he snaps out of it soon, realizes the impact of all these trade rumors, and gets his head on straight.
netboy65 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2025 12:41 pm
Kyrou did not get Berube fired, c’mon man, as someone that professes to have been in the game as much as you say you should know that all coaches have a shelf life, and Chief hit his here.
He was a part of it. He lost the room and obviously was going at it hard with Kyrou … and even Thomas.
