Report: Canadiens among teams interested in Kyrou

[Blue Sabbath]

They needed a rd and they got him. They need a 2c more than us. Unless they are trading Demidov or Reinbacher and Mailloux (at a minimum), what do they have that we would remotely want for Kyrou?

If they don't have a good 2C to spare...
Here is praying Holloway continues to help Kyrou become a "Real Boy".

Hey Harry - serious question - I find a lot of your posts to be really informative and your views on Kyrou are pretty clear. I'm just curious - is there anything Kyrou could do to win you over as a fan? What is he lacking, in your opinion? Or is this the Berube thing?

**disclaimer - I'm legit curious and not trying to start a fight. He's probably my favorite player on the Blues so I'd like to understand the opposite perspective.

Thanks for the courteous response.
I went through four phases with Kyrou and I grow weary of the lack iof consistency.

Phase One- he came up with skills that could make your goddanged jaw drop (and he still can... when he f#(bleep) feels like it). This peaked at the All Star-Game where he was awarded "Fastest Skater". He was a Superstar waiting to happen. He got an 8.125 Million a year deal for 8 years.

Suddenly, he became disinterested in doing any dirty work and in playing anything remotely resembling "good two-way hockey". He was on a line with Thomas, and they stuck together.
This is Phase Two, and it didn't take forever for the Chief, Mr. Craig Berube, to call him out on it face-to-face after a game. Kyrou ignored Chief's advice and the team was ... mortifying to watch as Chief was fired and a Minor League Coach was brought in to coddle the younger generation of players. I HATED Kyrou at this point. I felt the success and money had turned his head and his play was stomach turning quite often as he failed to get the puck in deep, trying for slick plays that would make the evening podcasts and resulted in turnovers and pucks in the back of our net. His physicality was non-existent.

Bannister did take Kyrou off Thomas line and forced Buchnevich to center for him, dig pucks out for him, and cover for him as much as possible. This was my least favorite time as a Blues fan in recent memory. However, being a Blues fan, even as I cursed his gutless nonchalance I could see some sparks of improvement. I believe the tears he squeezed out were a genuine reaction to being unmercifully boo'd by his home town crowd. However, I don't think he was remotely close to fixing things anytime soon- if ever.
Then, he gets put on a line with Holloway.
Suddenly, Jordan Kyrou is on a line with a forward his own size... who can totally embarrass him, as Holloway is almost as fast and offensively gifted as Kyrou, but in stark and glowing contrast, takes great pleasure in punishing opponents when it suits his purpose. He also plays all three zones in this tenacious manner, and his poise and confidence are admirable.
This is Phase Three as Kyrou makes his move to become a remarkable story of growth and redemption.
I LOVE this Kyrou.

Hollway gets injured. Phase Four.
Kyrou reverts to the pitiful perimeter ghost he was during Phase Two.
He turned my stomach for most of the playoffs, and Game Seven will be hard for me to ever forget.


As I have said several times, if Kyrou remains a Blue, we COULD see a continuation of the growth he achieved before Holloway's injry.
That would be Jim Dandy, but its a hard way to root for an adult hockey player. If it sticks, rooting for Kyrou will be easy..
If.

Thanks Harry - appreciate your thoughts! I hope his play eventually wins you (back) over . . and continues to justify the Tshirt I bought

Or maybe people don’t focus on their hatred of ONE player.
This is starting to remind me of ol smelly with his singular focus on Army

Please do myself and many others a huge favor- watch a game closely.
Don't follow the puck and look for goals and hits. Watch the game as if you knew how it should be played.
I have a pretty open mind. That is why I have waffled on Kyrou, but my waffling is another thing you have missed because you aren’t paying close attention.
I appreciate your enthusiasm as a hockey fan, but don’t condemn folks who call it like it actually is.

I’ve been watching the game for 50 years, so I know how it should be played, but thanks.
I’ve also been on this forum for a while and have seen your opinions go back and forth, so yes that was noticed too.
You are a very passionate fan as well, and that’s fantastic, but it just appears like the only time you post in the last few months is to complain about 25. It gets old. There’s a big beautiful hockey team besides just him.

You’re absolutely right to challenge the conversation and bring it back to a real hockey discussion. Let’s get into it — and honestly.

If Jordan Kyrou had played in the Stanley Cup Final against Florida the same way he did against the Jets, it would have been a liability. There’s no sugar-coating that. His play in that series — whether due to effort, decision-making, or both — left a lot to be desired. Yes, he has elite skill and top-end speed, but if he’s not engaged or dialed in defensively, it becomes a net negative against a grinding, relentless team like Florida.

Florida punishes mistakes. They eat up passive shifts. Kyrou floating, losing battles, or not tracking back would have been magnified under that kind of pressure. It’s not just about scoring — and in the Jets series, even that wasn’t consistent. The margin for error in the Final is razor thin, and players who don’t buy in 200 feet get exposed.

You said watching the game for 50 years, the game has changed. Speed and skill matter more than ever, but so do buy-in, intensity, and adaptability. Kyrou hasn't consistently shown those in playoff situations. And while he’s still relatively young and developing, how long can a team wait for a guy to “get it” when there are others willing to sacrifice and execute now?

So, if you can move him for a player who brings high hockey IQ, playoff effort, and a good cap hit — you do it. Skill is replaceable. Playoff fire and two-way commitment aren’t.

Good hockey talk. Let’s keep it going.

Not going to dispute much you said, but JK has skill that you can’t teach, and has made huge strides the last couple years. He didn’t appear to be the same guy after that hit, and had we advanced, would a different opponent made a difference? We’ll never know, but I’m not going to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
I guess my biggest beef is for all his supposed shortcomings in that series, where were Thomas, Buch and our other top guys? When the 4th line is your best line, that’s an issue across the board. Seems like Kyrou is the only one that catches flak however.

Kyrou catches more flak than other players by because he's is most dynamic package of offensive skills on the team. Fans want to see him dominate games on a regular basis. He has that potential but has never fulfilled it. Maybe he will but if the management decides to cut bait for Dach and Reinbacher or Mailloux or something similar it's probably a net positive especially since they fill two positions of need.

[TAFKAP]

The thing is, it has to click with Kyrou. I think he's started to make strides. People point to his talent, salary, and age as to how he has to have it figured out by now. Some players it comes later, some it requires a shock. Brett Hull was 35 before he figured it out. I couldn't believe in 1999 that I'm watching Brett Hull standing in the crease fighting for the puck, Scoring a dirty goal to win the Cup with a blown out knee and torn groin muscles. Brett [fork]ing Hull. If we had that guy we'd have had 2 Cups in that time. Oshie was another guy that didn't figure it out until he was close to 30 and got traded. Hopefully it'll click with Kyrou before we trade him.

[theograce]

The thing is, it has to click with Kyrou. I think he's started to make strides. People point to his talent, salary, and age as to how he has to have it figured out by now. Some players it comes later, some it requires a shock. Brett Hull was 35 before he figured it out. I couldn't believe in 1999 that I'm watching Brett Hull standing in the crease fighting for the puck, Scoring a dirty goal to win the Cup with a blown out knee and torn groin muscles. Brett [fork]ing Hull. If we had that guy we'd have had 2 Cups in that time. Oshie was another guy that didn't figure it out until he was close to 30 and got traded. Hopefully it'll click with Kyrou before we trade him.

Hull was a big part of the PK at Kyrou’s current age.

[CoinsOperated]

The thing is, it has to click with Kyrou. I think he's started to make strides. People point to his talent, salary, and age as to how he has to have it figured out by now. Some players it comes later, some it requires a shock. Brett Hull was 35 before he figured it out. I couldn't believe in 1999 that I'm watching Brett Hull standing in the crease fighting for the puck, Scoring a dirty goal to win the Cup with a blown out knee and torn groin muscles. Brett [fork]ing Hull. If we had that guy we'd have had 2 Cups in that time. Oshie was another guy that didn't figure it out until he was close to 30 and got traded. Hopefully it'll click with Kyrou before we trade him.

Yeah that Hull didn't have it figured out doesn't make sense.

Any team that would prefer 30 something goal scoring Hull over 86 goal scoring Hull is lying.

[MikoTython]

The thing is, it has to click with Kyrou. I think he's started to make strides. People point to his talent, salary, and age as to how he has to have it figured out by now. Some players it comes later, some it requires a shock. Brett Hull was 35 before he figured it out. I couldn't believe in 1999 that I'm watching Brett Hull standing in the crease fighting for the puck, Scoring a dirty goal to win the Cup with a blown out knee and torn groin muscles. Brett [fork]ing Hull. If we had that guy we'd have had 2 Cups in that time. Oshie was another guy that didn't figure it out until he was close to 30 and got traded. Hopefully it'll click with Kyrou before we trade him.

Yeah that Hull didn't have it figured out doesn't make sense.

Any team that would prefer 30 something goal scoring Hull over 86 goal scoring Hull is lying.

They're probably not mutually exclusive. Hull was floaty w/ us, though enormously talented, granted. He was much more a 200 ft guy w/ Hitchcock.

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Kyrou needs a fresh start. The problem is his value is probably lower than it could be for various reasons

This similar narrative preceded both Bennett's and Reinhart's trades. He doesn't need a fresh start. He led the team in scoring. Picked up his defensive game. No reason to force a trade for trades sake under the" guise of managing assets" especially when you fail to address a need. In Armey's own parlance trading him for less than value is not improving this team by 5 percent -quite probably the opposite.

It’s not about scoring. Tell me how he feels. How Montgomery and Armstrong feel .. And force?

There’s a lot of evidence that he’s not fitting in and that management wants more from him. There’s lots of smoke. Armstrong basically fired his friend in part because of him. If (and yes it’s a big if) Montgomery isn’t pumped about him, then it’s time to move on.

Kyrou basically vanished in the Jets series after he got his got wiped out by a hit. Don't need that. Playoffs are everything.

[theograce]

Kyrou needs a fresh start. The problem is his value is probably lower than it could be for various reasons

This similar narrative preceded both Bennett's and Reinhart's trades. He doesn't need a fresh start. He led the team in scoring. Picked up his defensive game. No reason to force a trade for trades sake under the" guise of managing assets" especially when you fail to address a need. In Armey's own parlance trading him for less than value is not improving this team by 5 percent -quite probably the opposite.

It’s not about scoring. Tell me how he feels. How Montgomery and Armstrong feel .. And force?

There’s a lot of evidence that he’s not fitting in and that management wants more from him. There’s lots of smoke. Armstrong basically fired his friend in part because of him. If (and yes it’s a big if) Montgomery isn’t pumped about him, then it’s time to move on.

Kyrou basically vanished in the Jets series after he got his got wiped out by a hit. Don't need that. Playoffs are everything.

Well that wasn’t just a hit. That dude is 6’7 and destroyed him. Look what happened to Faulk and binnington in the playoffs

[clemonsonroots]

if there is any truth to MTL be interested in Kyrou. I be asking for either, Mailloux or Reinbacher( I doubt theyd trade Guhle), then Kirby Dach (hes still young) yes i know hes oft injuried but worth the gamble. and maybe next years 1st.

there were the Dach rumours started by their GMs remarks.

https://www.habsfanatics.com/nhl-team/m ... peculation

...still only 24yr old Kirby Dach (C 6-4 221) and one of 6-3 207 RHDman 20yr old Reinbacher or RHDman 6-3 213 22yr old Mailloux would be outstanding.

yup... anyway to send em Leddy too?

Probably have to attach a pick to it

they cannot take on salary...that is why we would have to take on another contract besides the bust Dach.

[Bluesfan1978]

I have no idea what a potential return for Kyrou would be but it won’t be a 31 year old left D. If Kyrou gets moved it will be for a player that is in their prime and one of the positions of need.