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Re: Report: Canadiens among teams interested in Kyrou

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bud white wrote: 28 Jun 2025 14:00 pm
seattleblue wrote: 28 Jun 2025 13:21 pm No doubt moving Kyrou would require a major piece coming back. Nobody's trading a proven scoring center for him so we are talking about an NHL top pair caliber defender. That is why we were definitely interested in Dobson til he ruled out leaving the conference. Dobson is a 24 min top pair defender (Byram is not). We know we need a major RHD piece (or perhaps a major LHD who is too tempting not to take). Guhle is a very tempting player but we'd need more. Reinbacher ... that could be the right major prospect but we would also need more sure thing for the roster. I would be pretty surprised if the Blues traded Kyrou to MTL, they would have to really bring the offer up
Kyrou was in the package for JJ Peterka. Isles received two players who accounted for 14 goals last year.

14 goals total

The rest of the league doesn't hold Kyrou on the pedestal fans here do.
For one thing reducing Peterka's value to that is questionable, but don't you think that Buffalo talk had to be for a wider package? We also heard about Byram, etc. Maybe we were using Buffalo as a way to help our situation looking into Dobson, but the player himself seems to have mooted that idea.

I always agreed with MN and others that you move your biggest chip to get the key piece you need. and to me the key piece we lack is not a winger. so moving Kyrou in a deal for Peterka would not have interested me.
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Since Montreal is not going to find a taker for Laine's salary or trade Demidov, Caufield, or Slafkovsky, I don't see how Kyrou is a fit for them. Laine is in his last year though so maybe they're thinking macro.

Montreal would have to be overwhelmed (young legit 2C) in a deal to trade Guhle. They're not trading him for a one dimensional winger.
Guhle's cap hit is very reasonable. He's an ideal 2LHD that can play on the top pair if needed.
Guhle is going nowhere.

I expect Montreal to sit tight now unless it's a minor move.
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bud white wrote: 28 Jun 2025 14:00 pm
seattleblue wrote: 28 Jun 2025 13:21 pm No doubt moving Kyrou would require a major piece coming back. Nobody's trading a proven scoring center for him so we are talking about an NHL top pair caliber defender. That is why we were definitely interested in Dobson til he ruled out leaving the conference. Dobson is a 24 min top pair defender (Byram is not). We know we need a major RHD piece (or perhaps a major LHD who is too tempting not to take). Guhle is a very tempting player but we'd need more. Reinbacher ... that could be the right major prospect but we would also need more sure thing for the roster. I would be pretty surprised if the Blues traded Kyrou to MTL, they would have to really bring the offer up
Kyrou was in the package for JJ Peterka. Isles received two players who accounted for 14 goals last year.

14 goals total

The rest of the league doesn't hold Kyrou on the pedestal fans here do.
Wow Bud. If we did offer Kyrou straight up, this is an awful sign. If Eddie Olzyck can call him out by name for (bleep) poor compete in a Game Seven, the other GMs must have not been blinded by his regular season either.
Folks dont want to add players who do not compete in a Game Seven.


"It's not like Adams walked away with nothing. Doan could carve a place as a top-nine forward. Joining the Sabres is a chance for Doan to find the consistency that eluded him in Utah. He played 28 games in the AHL last season in addition to the 51 games he played for the Hockey Club.

Kesselring gives the Sabres a third right-shot defenseman on their roster. He finished with more than 20 points, while logging more than 70 games, in consecutive seasons. He was also sixth among Mammoth defensemen in average ice time; like Doan, he could see a greater role in Buffalo.

Doan and Kesselring give the Sabres depth. They are also going to cost the club a combined $2.325 million in cap space, with both players having a year left on their respective contracts before restricted free agency. The Sabres now have $20.881 million in cap space, per PuckPedia.

Yet it still results in this question: Was a bottom-six/middle-six forward and a middle-pairing (at best) defenseman enough of a return for a top-six forward? Or should Adams have gotten more for a player that is addressing one of the Mammoth's biggest needs, while leaving themselves in need of filling a sizable hole in the roster?"
https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/455 ... oth-sabres
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Re: Report: Canadiens among teams interested in Kyrou

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Harry York 37 wrote: 28 Jun 2025 13:57 pm
Emma bleeds blue wrote: 28 Jun 2025 10:25 am
Harry York 37 wrote: 28 Jun 2025 10:07 am
IsDurbanodoingtime wrote: 28 Jun 2025 09:57 am They needed a rd and they got him. They need a 2c more than us. Unless they are trading Demidov or Reinbacher and Mailloux (at a minimum), what do they have that we would remotely want for Kyrou?
If they don't have a good 2C to spare...
Here is praying Holloway continues to help Kyrou become a "Real Boy".
Hey Harry - serious question - I find a lot of your posts to be really informative and your views on Kyrou are pretty clear. I'm just curious - is there anything Kyrou could do to win you over as a fan? What is he lacking, in your opinion? Or is this the Berube thing?

**disclaimer - I'm legit curious and not trying to start a fight. He's probably my favorite player on the Blues so I'd like to understand the opposite perspective.
Thanks for the courteous response.
I went through four phases with Kyrou and I grow weary of the lack iof consistency.

Phase One- he came up with skills that could make your goddanged jaw drop (and he still can... when he f#(bleep) feels like it). This peaked at the All Star-Game where he was awarded "Fastest Skater". He was a Superstar waiting to happen. He got an 8.125 Million a year deal for 8 years.

Suddenly, he became disinterested in doing any dirty work and in playing anything remotely resembling "good two-way hockey". He was on a line with Thomas, and they stuck together.
This is Phase Two, and it didn't take forever for the Chief, Mr. Craig Berube, to call him out on it face-to-face after a game. Kyrou ignored Chief's advice and the team was ... mortifying to watch as Chief was fired and a Minor League Coach was brought in to coddle the younger generation of players. I HATED Kyrou at this point. I felt the success and money had turned his head and his play was stomach turning quite often as he failed to get the puck in deep, trying for slick plays that would make the evening podcasts and resulted in turnovers and pucks in the back of our net. His physicality was non-existent.

Bannister did take Kyrou off Thomas line and forced Buchnevich to center for him, dig pucks out for him, and cover for him as much as possible. This was my least favorite time as a Blues fan in recent memory. However, being a Blues fan, even as I cursed his gutless nonchalance I could see some sparks of improvement. I believe the tears he squeezed out were a genuine reaction to being unmercifully boo'd by his home town crowd. However, I don't think he was remotely close to fixing things anytime soon- if ever.
Then, he gets put on a line with Holloway.
Suddenly, Jordan Kyrou is on a line with a forward his own size... who can totally embarrass him, as Holloway is almost as fast and offensively gifted as Kyrou, but in stark and glowing contrast, takes great pleasure in punishing opponents when it suits his purpose. He also plays all three zones in this tenacious manner, and his poise and confidence are admirable.
This is Phase Three as Kyrou makes his move to become a remarkable story of growth and redemption.
I LOVE this Kyrou.

Hollway gets injured. Phase Four.
Kyrou reverts to the pitiful perimeter ghost he was during Phase Two.
He turned my stomach for most of the playoffs, and Game Seven will be hard for me to ever forget.


As I have said several times, if Kyrou remains a Blue, we COULD see a continuation of the growth he achieved before Holloway's injry.
That would be Jim Dandy, but its a hard way to root for an adult hockey player. If it sticks, rooting for Kyrou will be easy..
If.
Thanks Harry - appreciate your thoughts! I hope his play eventually wins you (back) over . . and continues to justify the Tshirt I bought :wink:
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callitwhatyouwant wrote: 28 Jun 2025 13:15 pm Kyrou ain’t going nowhere without a team bending themselves over and making it impossible to not accept the offer. Listen to army’s interview about Carb. The first 4 people he talks about as future teammates are Kyrou, Bolduc, Snuggs, and Buchy.
Thomas is gone. :D
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Emma bleeds blue wrote: 28 Jun 2025 14:20 pm

Thanks Harry - appreciate your thoughts! I hope his play eventually wins you (back) over . . and continues to justify the Tshirt I bought :wink:
You are very welcome. I have strong feelings as I played at a decent level until my mid forties and was fortunate enough to play on a good amount of Championship teams with great teammates you could depend on.
Kyrou could win me back.
He just has to decide how he will play the game.
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netboy65 wrote: 28 Jun 2025 12:30 pm
theograce wrote: 28 Jun 2025 11:53 am
netboy65 wrote: 28 Jun 2025 11:44 am
theograce wrote: 28 Jun 2025 11:34 am
IsDurbanodoingtime wrote: 28 Jun 2025 11:30 am
theograce wrote: 28 Jun 2025 11:04 am Kyrou needs a fresh start. The problem is his value is probably lower than it could be for various reasons
This similar narrative preceded both Bennett's and Reinhart's trades. He doesn't need a fresh start. He led the team in scoring. Picked up his defensive game. No reason to force a trade for trades sake under the" guise of managing assets" especially when you fail to address a need. In Armey's own parlance trading him for less than value is not improving this team by 5 percent -quite probably the opposite.
It’s not about scoring. Tell me how he feels. How Montgomery and Armstrong feel .. And force?

There’s a lot of evidence that he’s not fitting in and that management wants more from him. There’s lots of smoke. Armstrong basically fired his friend in part because of him. If (and yes it’s a big if) Montgomery isn’t pumped about him, then it’s time to move on.
What evidence? That is other than media speculation? I remember when Monty first got here he told him to just go play your game. If after the season he wasn’t happy I’m sure he had a private sit-down with him, but I’d think the player would be given the opportunity to implement the advice.
Armstrong and Berube weren’t happy. Berube said some things that never get said publicly. They were awful things to say. Ice time at times … benchings here and there. Top analysts reporting.

That’s as much evidence as you will ever see
That’s 2 coaches ago, ancient history
If they were not public, then you’re just making stuff up
Top analysts? Like I said, media speculation
It’s not ancient history to Armstrong and the NHL. This is a 50 million dollar winger who needs to prove a lot still.
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Emma bleeds blue wrote: 28 Jun 2025 14:20 pm
Harry York 37 wrote: 28 Jun 2025 13:57 pm
Emma bleeds blue wrote: 28 Jun 2025 10:25 am
Harry York 37 wrote: 28 Jun 2025 10:07 am
IsDurbanodoingtime wrote: 28 Jun 2025 09:57 am They needed a rd and they got him. They need a 2c more than us. Unless they are trading Demidov or Reinbacher and Mailloux (at a minimum), what do they have that we would remotely want for Kyrou?
If they don't have a good 2C to spare...
Here is praying Holloway continues to help Kyrou become a "Real Boy".
Hey Harry - serious question - I find a lot of your posts to be really informative and your views on Kyrou are pretty clear. I'm just curious - is there anything Kyrou could do to win you over as a fan? What is he lacking, in your opinion? Or is this the Berube thing?

**disclaimer - I'm legit curious and not trying to start a fight. He's probably my favorite player on the Blues so I'd like to understand the opposite perspective.
Thanks for the courteous response.
I went through four phases with Kyrou and I grow weary of the lack iof consistency.

Phase One- he came up with skills that could make your goddanged jaw drop (and he still can... when he f#(bleep) feels like it). This peaked at the All Star-Game where he was awarded "Fastest Skater". He was a Superstar waiting to happen. He got an 8.125 Million a year deal for 8 years.

Suddenly, he became disinterested in doing any dirty work and in playing anything remotely resembling "good two-way hockey". He was on a line with Thomas, and they stuck together.
This is Phase Two, and it didn't take forever for the Chief, Mr. Craig Berube, to call him out on it face-to-face after a game. Kyrou ignored Chief's advice and the team was ... mortifying to watch as Chief was fired and a Minor League Coach was brought in to coddle the younger generation of players. I HATED Kyrou at this point. I felt the success and money had turned his head and his play was stomach turning quite often as he failed to get the puck in deep, trying for slick plays that would make the evening podcasts and resulted in turnovers and pucks in the back of our net. His physicality was non-existent.

Bannister did take Kyrou off Thomas line and forced Buchnevich to center for him, dig pucks out for him, and cover for him as much as possible. This was my least favorite time as a Blues fan in recent memory. However, being a Blues fan, even as I cursed his gutless nonchalance I could see some sparks of improvement. I believe the tears he squeezed out were a genuine reaction to being unmercifully boo'd by his home town crowd. However, I don't think he was remotely close to fixing things anytime soon- if ever.
Then, he gets put on a line with Holloway.
Suddenly, Jordan Kyrou is on a line with a forward his own size... who can totally embarrass him, as Holloway is almost as fast and offensively gifted as Kyrou, but in stark and glowing contrast, takes great pleasure in punishing opponents when it suits his purpose. He also plays all three zones in this tenacious manner, and his poise and confidence are admirable.
This is Phase Three as Kyrou makes his move to become a remarkable story of growth and redemption.
I LOVE this Kyrou.

Hollway gets injured. Phase Four.
Kyrou reverts to the pitiful perimeter ghost he was during Phase Two.
He turned my stomach for most of the playoffs, and Game Seven will be hard for me to ever forget.


As I have said several times, if Kyrou remains a Blue, we COULD see a continuation of the growth he achieved before Holloway's injry.
That would be Jim Dandy, but its a hard way to root for an adult hockey player. If it sticks, rooting for Kyrou will be easy..
If.
Thanks Harry - appreciate your thoughts! I hope his play eventually wins you (back) over . . and continues to justify the Tshirt I bought :wink:
Or maybe people don’t focus on their hatred of ONE player.
This is starting to remind me of ol smelly with his singular focus on Army
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seattleblue wrote: 28 Jun 2025 13:21 pm No doubt moving Kyrou would require a major piece coming back. Nobody's trading a proven scoring center for him so we are talking about an NHL top pair caliber defender. That is why we were definitely interested in Dobson til he ruled out leaving the conference. Dobson is a 24 min top pair defender (Byram is not). We know we need a major RHD piece (or perhaps a major LHD who is too tempting not to take). Guhle is a very tempting player but we'd need more. Reinbacher ... that could be the right major prospect but we would also need more sure thing for the roster. I would be pretty surprised if the Blues traded Kyrou to MTL, they would have to really bring the offer up
I don't know that I'd immediately hang up if the Hab's came in offering Reinbacher and Jake Evans.
I would definitely want something else coming back also(and not a small something), but it would get my attention.
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Re: Report: Canadiens among teams interested in Kyrou

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netboy65 wrote: 28 Jun 2025 15:18 pm
Emma bleeds blue wrote: 28 Jun 2025 14:20 pm
Harry York 37 wrote: 28 Jun 2025 13:57 pm
Emma bleeds blue wrote: 28 Jun 2025 10:25 am
Harry York 37 wrote: 28 Jun 2025 10:07 am
IsDurbanodoingtime wrote: 28 Jun 2025 09:57 am They needed a rd and they got him. They need a 2c more than us. Unless they are trading Demidov or Reinbacher and Mailloux (at a minimum), what do they have that we would remotely want for Kyrou?
If they don't have a good 2C to spare...
Here is praying Holloway continues to help Kyrou become a "Real Boy".
Hey Harry - serious question - I find a lot of your posts to be really informative and your views on Kyrou are pretty clear. I'm just curious - is there anything Kyrou could do to win you over as a fan? What is he lacking, in your opinion? Or is this the Berube thing?

**disclaimer - I'm legit curious and not trying to start a fight. He's probably my favorite player on the Blues so I'd like to understand the opposite perspective.
Thanks for the courteous response.
I went through four phases with Kyrou and I grow weary of the lack iof consistency.

Phase One- he came up with skills that could make your goddanged jaw drop (and he still can... when he f#(bleep) feels like it). This peaked at the All Star-Game where he was awarded "Fastest Skater". He was a Superstar waiting to happen. He got an 8.125 Million a year deal for 8 years.

Suddenly, he became disinterested in doing any dirty work and in playing anything remotely resembling "good two-way hockey". He was on a line with Thomas, and they stuck together.
This is Phase Two, and it didn't take forever for the Chief, Mr. Craig Berube, to call him out on it face-to-face after a game. Kyrou ignored Chief's advice and the team was ... mortifying to watch as Chief was fired and a Minor League Coach was brought in to coddle the younger generation of players. I HATED Kyrou at this point. I felt the success and money had turned his head and his play was stomach turning quite often as he failed to get the puck in deep, trying for slick plays that would make the evening podcasts and resulted in turnovers and pucks in the back of our net. His physicality was non-existent.

Bannister did take Kyrou off Thomas line and forced Buchnevich to center for him, dig pucks out for him, and cover for him as much as possible. This was my least favorite time as a Blues fan in recent memory. However, being a Blues fan, even as I cursed his gutless nonchalance I could see some sparks of improvement. I believe the tears he squeezed out were a genuine reaction to being unmercifully boo'd by his home town crowd. However, I don't think he was remotely close to fixing things anytime soon- if ever.
Then, he gets put on a line with Holloway.
Suddenly, Jordan Kyrou is on a line with a forward his own size... who can totally embarrass him, as Holloway is almost as fast and offensively gifted as Kyrou, but in stark and glowing contrast, takes great pleasure in punishing opponents when it suits his purpose. He also plays all three zones in this tenacious manner, and his poise and confidence are admirable.
This is Phase Three as Kyrou makes his move to become a remarkable story of growth and redemption.
I LOVE this Kyrou.

Hollway gets injured. Phase Four.
Kyrou reverts to the pitiful perimeter ghost he was during Phase Two.
He turned my stomach for most of the playoffs, and Game Seven will be hard for me to ever forget.


As I have said several times, if Kyrou remains a Blue, we COULD see a continuation of the growth he achieved before Holloway's injry.
That would be Jim Dandy, but its a hard way to root for an adult hockey player. If it sticks, rooting for Kyrou will be easy..
If.
Thanks Harry - appreciate your thoughts! I hope his play eventually wins you (back) over . . and continues to justify the Tshirt I bought :wink:
Or maybe people don’t focus on their hatred of ONE player.
This is starting to remind me of ol smelly with his singular focus on Army
Please do myself and many others a huge favor- watch a game closely.
Don't follow the puck and look for goals and hits. Watch the game as if you knew how it should be played.
I have a pretty open mind. That is why I have waffled on Kyrou, but my waffling is another thing you have missed because you aren’t paying close attention.
I appreciate your enthusiasm as a hockey fan, but don’t condemn folks who call it like it actually is.
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I think if Kyrou gets traded it will be for a legit 2C or top 4 RD. I don’t think he gets moved for a 3C or 5-6D.
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Bluesfan1978 wrote: 28 Jun 2025 15:51 pm I think if Kyrou gets traded it will be for a legit 2C or top 4 RD. I don’t think he gets moved for a 3C or 5-6D.
if he is there better be a 1st and/or a pretty good prospect attached
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DA said that if he makes a trade from our surplus (wingers) it will be for a player in an area of need (C or RD) who is in the 20-26 age group. He used a phrase like Apples for Apples. So, I could see Reinbacher plus being in play since montreal is voicing that they are in win now mode.
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unfortunately I dont see us doing anything else before the season aside from either a resign of Faska or another cheap 4C or a vet Dman as a 7th Dman
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Re: Report: Canadiens among teams interested in Kyrou

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Harry York 37 wrote: 28 Jun 2025 15:47 pm
netboy65 wrote: 28 Jun 2025 15:18 pm
Emma bleeds blue wrote: 28 Jun 2025 14:20 pm
Harry York 37 wrote: 28 Jun 2025 13:57 pm
Emma bleeds blue wrote: 28 Jun 2025 10:25 am
Harry York 37 wrote: 28 Jun 2025 10:07 am
IsDurbanodoingtime wrote: 28 Jun 2025 09:57 am They needed a rd and they got him. They need a 2c more than us. Unless they are trading Demidov or Reinbacher and Mailloux (at a minimum), what do they have that we would remotely want for Kyrou?
If they don't have a good 2C to spare...
Here is praying Holloway continues to help Kyrou become a "Real Boy".
Hey Harry - serious question - I find a lot of your posts to be really informative and your views on Kyrou are pretty clear. I'm just curious - is there anything Kyrou could do to win you over as a fan? What is he lacking, in your opinion? Or is this the Berube thing?

**disclaimer - I'm legit curious and not trying to start a fight. He's probably my favorite player on the Blues so I'd like to understand the opposite perspective.
Thanks for the courteous response.
I went through four phases with Kyrou and I grow weary of the lack iof consistency.

Phase One- he came up with skills that could make your goddanged jaw drop (and he still can... when he f#(bleep) feels like it). This peaked at the All Star-Game where he was awarded "Fastest Skater". He was a Superstar waiting to happen. He got an 8.125 Million a year deal for 8 years.

Suddenly, he became disinterested in doing any dirty work and in playing anything remotely resembling "good two-way hockey". He was on a line with Thomas, and they stuck together.
This is Phase Two, and it didn't take forever for the Chief, Mr. Craig Berube, to call him out on it face-to-face after a game. Kyrou ignored Chief's advice and the team was ... mortifying to watch as Chief was fired and a Minor League Coach was brought in to coddle the younger generation of players. I HATED Kyrou at this point. I felt the success and money had turned his head and his play was stomach turning quite often as he failed to get the puck in deep, trying for slick plays that would make the evening podcasts and resulted in turnovers and pucks in the back of our net. His physicality was non-existent.

Bannister did take Kyrou off Thomas line and forced Buchnevich to center for him, dig pucks out for him, and cover for him as much as possible. This was my least favorite time as a Blues fan in recent memory. However, being a Blues fan, even as I cursed his gutless nonchalance I could see some sparks of improvement. I believe the tears he squeezed out were a genuine reaction to being unmercifully boo'd by his home town crowd. However, I don't think he was remotely close to fixing things anytime soon- if ever.
Then, he gets put on a line with Holloway.
Suddenly, Jordan Kyrou is on a line with a forward his own size... who can totally embarrass him, as Holloway is almost as fast and offensively gifted as Kyrou, but in stark and glowing contrast, takes great pleasure in punishing opponents when it suits his purpose. He also plays all three zones in this tenacious manner, and his poise and confidence are admirable.
This is Phase Three as Kyrou makes his move to become a remarkable story of growth and redemption.
I LOVE this Kyrou.

Hollway gets injured. Phase Four.
Kyrou reverts to the pitiful perimeter ghost he was during Phase Two.
He turned my stomach for most of the playoffs, and Game Seven will be hard for me to ever forget.


As I have said several times, if Kyrou remains a Blue, we COULD see a continuation of the growth he achieved before Holloway's injry.
That would be Jim Dandy, but its a hard way to root for an adult hockey player. If it sticks, rooting for Kyrou will be easy..
If.
Thanks Harry - appreciate your thoughts! I hope his play eventually wins you (back) over . . and continues to justify the Tshirt I bought :wink:
Or maybe people don’t focus on their hatred of ONE player.
This is starting to remind me of ol smelly with his singular focus on Army
Please do myself and many others a huge favor- watch a game closely.
Don't follow the puck and look for goals and hits. Watch the game as if you knew how it should be played.
I have a pretty open mind. That is why I have waffled on Kyrou, but my waffling is another thing you have missed because you aren’t paying close attention.
I appreciate your enthusiasm as a hockey fan, but don’t condemn folks who call it like it actually is.
I’ve been watching the game for 50 years, so I know how it should be played, but thanks.
I’ve also been on this forum for a while and have seen your opinions go back and forth, so yes that was noticed too.
You are a very passionate fan as well, and that’s fantastic, but it just appears like the only time you post in the last few months is to complain about 25. It gets old. There’s a big beautiful hockey team besides just him.
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netboy65 wrote: 28 Jun 2025 16:16 pm
Harry York 37 wrote: 28 Jun 2025 15:47 pm
netboy65 wrote: 28 Jun 2025 15:18 pm
Emma bleeds blue wrote: 28 Jun 2025 14:20 pm
Harry York 37 wrote: 28 Jun 2025 13:57 pm
Emma bleeds blue wrote: 28 Jun 2025 10:25 am
Harry York 37 wrote: 28 Jun 2025 10:07 am
IsDurbanodoingtime wrote: 28 Jun 2025 09:57 am They needed a rd and they got him. They need a 2c more than us. Unless they are trading Demidov or Reinbacher and Mailloux (at a minimum), what do they have that we would remotely want for Kyrou?
If they don't have a good 2C to spare...
Here is praying Holloway continues to help Kyrou become a "Real Boy".
Hey Harry - serious question - I find a lot of your posts to be really informative and your views on Kyrou are pretty clear. I'm just curious - is there anything Kyrou could do to win you over as a fan? What is he lacking, in your opinion? Or is this the Berube thing?

**disclaimer - I'm legit curious and not trying to start a fight. He's probably my favorite player on the Blues so I'd like to understand the opposite perspective.
Thanks for the courteous response.
I went through four phases with Kyrou and I grow weary of the lack iof consistency.

Phase One- he came up with skills that could make your goddanged jaw drop (and he still can... when he f#(bleep) feels like it). This peaked at the All Star-Game where he was awarded "Fastest Skater". He was a Superstar waiting to happen. He got an 8.125 Million a year deal for 8 years.

Suddenly, he became disinterested in doing any dirty work and in playing anything remotely resembling "good two-way hockey". He was on a line with Thomas, and they stuck together.
This is Phase Two, and it didn't take forever for the Chief, Mr. Craig Berube, to call him out on it face-to-face after a game. Kyrou ignored Chief's advice and the team was ... mortifying to watch as Chief was fired and a Minor League Coach was brought in to coddle the younger generation of players. I HATED Kyrou at this point. I felt the success and money had turned his head and his play was stomach turning quite often as he failed to get the puck in deep, trying for slick plays that would make the evening podcasts and resulted in turnovers and pucks in the back of our net. His physicality was non-existent.

Bannister did take Kyrou off Thomas line and forced Buchnevich to center for him, dig pucks out for him, and cover for him as much as possible. This was my least favorite time as a Blues fan in recent memory. However, being a Blues fan, even as I cursed his gutless nonchalance I could see some sparks of improvement. I believe the tears he squeezed out were a genuine reaction to being unmercifully boo'd by his home town crowd. However, I don't think he was remotely close to fixing things anytime soon- if ever.
Then, he gets put on a line with Holloway.
Suddenly, Jordan Kyrou is on a line with a forward his own size... who can totally embarrass him, as Holloway is almost as fast and offensively gifted as Kyrou, but in stark and glowing contrast, takes great pleasure in punishing opponents when it suits his purpose. He also plays all three zones in this tenacious manner, and his poise and confidence are admirable.
This is Phase Three as Kyrou makes his move to become a remarkable story of growth and redemption.
I LOVE this Kyrou.

Hollway gets injured. Phase Four.
Kyrou reverts to the pitiful perimeter ghost he was during Phase Two.
He turned my stomach for most of the playoffs, and Game Seven will be hard for me to ever forget.


As I have said several times, if Kyrou remains a Blue, we COULD see a continuation of the growth he achieved before Holloway's injry.
That would be Jim Dandy, but its a hard way to root for an adult hockey player. If it sticks, rooting for Kyrou will be easy..
If.
Thanks Harry - appreciate your thoughts! I hope his play eventually wins you (back) over . . and continues to justify the Tshirt I bought :wink:
Or maybe people don’t focus on their hatred of ONE player.
This is starting to remind me of ol smelly with his singular focus on Army
Please do myself and many others a huge favor- watch a game closely.
Don't follow the puck and look for goals and hits. Watch the game as if you knew how it should be played.
I have a pretty open mind. That is why I have waffled on Kyrou, but my waffling is another thing you have missed because you aren’t paying close attention.
I appreciate your enthusiasm as a hockey fan, but don’t condemn folks who call it like it actually is.
I’ve been watching the game for 50 years, so I know how it should be played, but thanks.
I’ve also been on this forum for a while and have seen your opinions go back and forth, so yes that was noticed too.
You are a very passionate fan as well, and that’s fantastic, but it just appears like the only time you post in the last few months is to complain about 25. It gets old. There’s a big beautiful hockey team besides just him.
I don’t recall much back and forth. Just like most of us, we saw Kyrou playing lazily and uninspired hocked before he cried to the fans. He then picked up his game and played a much more well rounded game- actually tried away from the puck. That series with the Jets he was back to his old ways. Maybe it was mostly after he got rocked by the giant on the jets, but he gave up and to me that is what gets old. It’s a roll of the dice to bet on him developing into a playoff asset for a post season boat anchor. I personally hope they move him for an equally talented player that plays passionately and not beer league type of game.
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