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Harry S Deals wrote: 25 Jun 2025 12:13 pm
noted wrote: 25 Jun 2025 09:13 am
Harry S Deals wrote: 25 Jun 2025 09:01 am Id be shocked if Army moves Kyrou but i think in the realm of possibilities. Unless something productive is coming back in the form of a RW scorer then the Blues forward group would be in a bit of trouble. Theres not much in FA pool, Brock Boeser? Marner? That would leave Snuggie as the only true RW shooter on the roster besides Thomas and Sunny.....
Bolduc and Buch both play right wing. If you are saying someone needs to be right handed to play right wing, that's not true. The Panthers just won the cup twice in a row with only 2 right-handed forwards.

Why would you be shocked if the Blues traded from a position that they have a surplus in to fill other needs?
Yes a team full of LH shots only is problematic esp on the PP also can be easier to defend in some cases. Two of Floridas 4 right wings actually shoot right (Samoskevich and Reinhart), vs the Blues who would have literally only Snuggerud. Sure the Blues can make it work but its not ideal
Samskevich did not play for them in the playoffs.
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Denigrate and destroy. Yup, theNograce spews more venom. NOW THAT'S DISGUSTING!
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roadkillIL wrote: 25 Jun 2025 13:05 pm Denigrate and destroy. Yup, theNograce spews more venom. NOW THAT'S DISGUSTING!
Venom. Yeah 1 ES goal in 27 games for an 8 mil player

Ignore it. Meaningless
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Harry S Deals wrote: 25 Jun 2025 13:03 pm 11gs in 28 playoff games is not a bad stat
It would be a most fabulous stat, if offense won Stanley Cups.
Two assists in 28 playoff games.
He should have three times as many, by accident. You have to TRY to be that invisible.
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theograce wrote: 25 Jun 2025 13:07 pm
roadkillIL wrote: 25 Jun 2025 13:05 pm Denigrate and destroy. Yup, theNograce spews more venom. NOW THAT'S DISGUSTING!
Venom. Yeah 1 ES goal in 27 games for an 8 mil player

Ignore it. Meaningless
Jon Snow just won’t shut up.
How did Nancy boy score his 11 goals? Were they all unassisted?

Still waiting to hear about the goal the WON the Stanley Cup for the Blues.
You I D I O ….
Well, your reember the rest.

A first year squirt player would not have made that shameful boast.
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Harry York 37 wrote: 25 Jun 2025 13:08 pm
Harry S Deals wrote: 25 Jun 2025 13:03 pm 11gs in 28 playoff games is not a bad stat
It would be a most fabulous stat, if offense won Stanley Cups.
Two assists in 28 playoff games.
He should have three times as many, by accident. You have to TRY to be that invisible.
That choke icing and 1 game out of 27 with an ES goal has you so deflective. Hugs ol’ guy
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theograce wrote: 25 Jun 2025 13:11 pm
Harry York 37 wrote: 25 Jun 2025 13:08 pm
Harry S Deals wrote: 25 Jun 2025 13:03 pm 11gs in 28 playoff games is not a bad stat
It would be a most fabulous stat, if offense won Stanley Cups.
Two assists in 28 playoff games.
He should have three times as many, by accident. You have to TRY to be that invisible.
That choke icing and 1 game out of 27 with an ES goal has you so deflective. Hugs ol’ guy
Now I’m laughing.
You must be pushing fifty and you still haven’t made it out of second-class troll.
Whew!
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Harry York 37 wrote: 25 Jun 2025 13:13 pm
theograce wrote: 25 Jun 2025 13:11 pm
Harry York 37 wrote: 25 Jun 2025 13:08 pm
Harry S Deals wrote: 25 Jun 2025 13:03 pm 11gs in 28 playoff games is not a bad stat
It would be a most fabulous stat, if offense won Stanley Cups.
Two assists in 28 playoff games.
He should have three times as many, by accident. You have to TRY to be that invisible.
That choke icing and 1 game out of 27 with an ES goal has you so deflective. Hugs ol’ guy
Now I’m laughing.
You must be pushing fifty and you still haven’t made it out of second-class troll.
Whew!
That choke icing and 1 goal in 27 games.

I get why it’s hard to talk about for you in the recliner. Have some peaches
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theograce wrote: 25 Jun 2025 13:15 pm
Harry York 37 wrote: 25 Jun 2025 13:13 pm
theograce wrote: 25 Jun 2025 13:11 pm
Harry York 37 wrote: 25 Jun 2025 13:08 pm
Harry S Deals wrote: 25 Jun 2025 13:03 pm 11gs in 28 playoff games is not a bad stat
It would be a most fabulous stat, if offense won Stanley Cups.
Two assists in 28 playoff games.
He should have three times as many, by accident. You have to TRY to be that invisible.
That choke icing and 1 game out of 27 with an ES goal has you so deflective. Hugs ol’ guy
Now I’m laughing.
You must be pushing fifty and you still haven’t made it out of second-class troll.
Whew!
That choke icing and 1 goal in 27 games.

I get why it’s hard to talk about for you in the recliner. Have some peaches
You are comedy gold, dilettante wannabe.

Did Petro know it was the Cup Winner the second he put it in?
That was a giant flamboyant troll boast.
Why won’t you tell us about it one more time.

Did some experienced older gentleman of ice hockey teach you somethin?
A first year squirt is smarter than you.
“Human Paraquat “
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To win a Cup you have to play in, with and through pain.

Sacrifice yourself for the betterment of the team...

Push yourself to new places. Uncomfortable places.

Kyrou fails to check any of those boxes.
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Harry York 37 wrote: 25 Jun 2025 13:18 pm
theograce wrote: 25 Jun 2025 13:15 pm
Harry York 37 wrote: 25 Jun 2025 13:13 pm
theograce wrote: 25 Jun 2025 13:11 pm
Harry York 37 wrote: 25 Jun 2025 13:08 pm
Harry S Deals wrote: 25 Jun 2025 13:03 pm 11gs in 28 playoff games is not a bad stat
It would be a most fabulous stat, if offense won Stanley Cups.
Two assists in 28 playoff games.
He should have three times as many, by accident. You have to TRY to be that invisible.
That choke icing and 1 game out of 27 with an ES goal has you so deflective. Hugs ol’ guy
Now I’m laughing.
You must be pushing fifty and you still haven’t made it out of second-class troll.
Whew!
That choke icing and 1 goal in 27 games.

I get why it’s hard to talk about for you in the recliner. Have some peaches
You are comedy gold, dilettante wannabe.

Did Petro know it was the Cup Wimner the second he put it in?
That was a giant flamboyant troll boast.
Why won’t you tell us about it one more time.

Did some experienced older gentleman of ice hockey teach you somethin?
A first year squirt is smarter than you.
“Human Paraquat “
“Pavel Buchnevich had the series on his stick. He could have just flipped it down the ice, but he tried to rifle one into the open net from his own zone resulting in an icing resulting in game-tying goal”
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Harry York 37 wrote: 25 Jun 2025 13:08 pm
Harry S Deals wrote: 25 Jun 2025 13:03 pm 11gs in 28 playoff games is not a bad stat
It would be a most fabulous stat, if offense won Stanley Cups.
Two assists in 28 playoff games.
He should have three times as many, by accident. You have to TRY to be that invisible.
The Blues need to qualify for the playoffs first, that means scoring goals and Kyrou is one to the top RWs, then he needs to continue to work on developing his overall game. idk maybe Army trades him im just saying beware because unless forward talent is coming back that a yuuuuge hole to fill
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Harry York 37 wrote: 25 Jun 2025 13:08 pm
Harry S Deals wrote: 25 Jun 2025 13:03 pm 11gs in 28 playoff games is not a bad stat
It would be a most fabulous stat, if offense won Stanley Cups.
Two assists in 28 playoff games.
He should have three times as many, by accident. You have to TRY to be that invisible.
I completely understand your point, so don’t get me wrong there, but imho there’s two points to be made
One, Kyrou is paid to score goals any helpers are gravy. I’d rather he shoot than dish.
Two, assists aren’t always in the player’s control. What if you made a Gretzky-like pass and the guy fanned or broke his stick or just plain missed the net?
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netboy65 wrote: 25 Jun 2025 13:26 pm
Harry York 37 wrote: 25 Jun 2025 13:08 pm
Harry S Deals wrote: 25 Jun 2025 13:03 pm 11gs in 28 playoff games is not a bad stat
It would be a most fabulous stat, if offense won Stanley Cups.
Two assists in 28 playoff games.
He should have three times as many, by accident. You have to TRY to be that invisible.
I completely understand your point, so don’t get me wrong there, but imho there’s two points to be made
One, Kyrou is paid to score goals any helpers are gravy. I’d rather he shoot than dish.
Two, assists aren’t always in the player’s control. What if you made a Gretzky-like pass and the guy fanned or broke his stick or just plain missed the net?
I appreciate your reasonable and courteous response, netboy65. Some things set me off and… I am working on it.

I understand your point. But, in 28 games, you would like to think he made more than two passes that paid off in a goal.

Garry Unger started out with the Redwings and on his first shift, he passed to Howe in their defensive zone and Howe skated it up the ice for a score. Unger said that his first thought was, “Man, I’m gonna get 900 assists this year”.

It works both ways. A gorgeous setup can be blown, for sure.
But out of all the passes Kyrou made in those 28 games, only two led to a goal? Hell, the last TWO successful passes count for assists. That is extremely telling- to me- about Kyrou’s lack of burning desire to win a shift, or a game, or a Cup.
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For this make sense we'd have to know the return, it wont be Kyrou for Dobson straight up for example i dont think thats enough coming back and for instance if your saying the lines end up something like this;

Buch Thomas Snuggerud
Holloway Schenn Bolduc
Neigbours FA Joseph (or whatever)
Walker FA Torop

Fowler CP
Broberg Dobson

that forward group is scary thin, Bolduc doesnt produce, Snuggerud underwhelms, injuries thats a bad hockey team.
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Harry S Deals wrote: 25 Jun 2025 13:43 pm For this make sense we'd have to know the return, it wont be Kyrou for Dobson straight up for example i dont think thats enough coming back and for instance if your saying the lines end up something like this;

Buch Thomas Snuggerud
Holloway Schenn Bolduc
Neigbours FA Joseph (or whatever)
Walker FA Torop

Fowler CP
Broberg Dobson

that forward group is scary thin, Bolduc doesnt produce, Snuggerud underwhelms, injuries thats a bad hockey team.
Losing Kyrou’s offensive “regular season” production is sobering, for sure. There is always the small, in my opinion, chance that a full year of playing alongside Holloway can make a miracle. If we are stuck with him again next week, that will be my prayer.

I would not want to root for, or be on a line with, a player who is embarrassingly timid and lacks real poise.
That is one of the ugliest looks in playoff hockey. Kudos to our pros who have played like professionals alongside him. It would take a lot to speak out after he won the battle to the finish with a Stanley Cup winning coach over his “style” of play.
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