Yeah, I don't understand signing Frederic at all until Bouchard is locked up, let alone for that much and for that long. The fact that they can't sign Trent Frederic and their top RFA in Bouchard to a long term deal without somehow giving away an asset they need (ignoring their glaring needs for depth and a goalie upgrade) just clearly shows how bad of a spot they are in. If I was McDavid I'd consider sticking around until the deadline to see if they can run it back one more year to go for it, but there's no way I would sign long term until the GM pulls a few rabbits out of his hat to drastically improve the roster and cap situation.TheJackBurton wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 09:33 amYeah, I mean basically.rbirules wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 08:29 amThe only thing funnier (from a schadenfreude perspective) than getting Broberg and Holloway and them breaking out for us, is the Oilers offer sheeting Hofer, us taking their 2nd round pick, only for them to either lose Bouchard because they can't sign him or having to make some really bad moves to rid themselves of other contracts (I honestly don't even know how this is possible), which erodes their roster further and McDavid wants out and their 2nd round pick turns out to be a good one as a result.TheJackBurton wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 08:21 amThe problem would be if they sign Hofer, they can't sign Bouchard without making a move somewhere else.Frank Underwood wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 08:18 am Could I see Edmonton giving him an offer sheet? Sure, why not. But they don’t have a lot of money to work with and unless they get him signed, this could be McDavid’s last year in Edmonton before he can walk away. With so much at risk, do they want to bank on an unproven, young goalie to lead them to the Cup? I like Hofer and definitely hope the Blues get him signed, but I don’t think that is the move the Oilers need to make at this point. But they have bungled the goalie thing for the last decade, so why not keep it going!
As badly as they need goaler help, they can't afford to lose Bouchard as their defense is even worse than their goaltending.
Yes, yes I know the stats would tell you they are far better than we give them credit for, but most of their numbers come from teams having to play so defensively when McDavid and Drai are on the ice that it severely diminishes their offensive output.
Could you imagine the team morale if you lose Bouchard for someone who is a backup currently?
Especially after the off season you had last year?
Man, that would just be a kick in the nuts.
Also, something to keep in mind, we heard the rumors, but Frederic isn't under contract currently so the cap that is showing is without him on it.
If he should sign it all of a sudden the Oil are down to essentially 8 million so they already have to get rid of someone to be cap compliant by the beginning of the year, if they extend Bouchard, and they'll still need 2 more players after that.
2026/2027 Roster:
Draisaitl - $14M
Bouchard - $11M?
Nurse - $9.25M
RNH - $5.125M
Hyman - $5.5M
Emberson - $1.3M
Janmark - $1.45
Campbell - $2.6M
Total - $50.25M
2026/2027 cap limit = $104M
They have $54M to fill out their roster, and that's before McDavid. They have one line (Hyman-Drai-RNH), one defensive pair (Bouchard-Nurse), a 3rd pair or 7D in Emberson, and a 3rd or 4th liner in Janmark. Their only goalie is a buyout of Campbell. Janmark and Emberson are FA after 26/27, so they'd have to sign depth players to fill those roles in a higher cap environment.
On the low end let's say McDavid takes $16M, that leaves them $38M to get two goalies, 3-4 defensemen, and 7-8 forwards. If McDavid is closer to $20M, and they sign Hofer to an offer sheet ($4.6M) somehow, then they'd have closer to $30M remaining and you can remove one goalie from their shopping list. I guess Savoie could fill a wing spot, he'll have to. O'Reilly might be forced to start by then. Hyman will be 34 to start that season and RNH will be 33.