Offer Sheet and Joel Hofer

[dhsux]

So a few questions on the Offer Sheet and how it might effect the Blues.

An RFA can sign with a new team day after the draft is that correct?

Offer Sheets can begin on the same day, is that right?

Does this mean a player can have an Offer Sheet in front of him while simultaneously having a contract extension offer for his consideration? I'm a little confused on this ....or does the offered player have to be unsolicited at the time of the offer sheet?

Also, if the Blues do not extend Joel in the coming 9 days ...should there be cause for concern he might well receive an Offer Sheet? Is this like a 20% chance or even greater?

[TAFKAP]

July 1st he is a free agent and can get as many offers as teams (including the Blues) want to send. Being a Restricted Free Agent, the Blues can match that offer or get draft compensation if not matched. If we sign him before 7/1 he gets no offers, as he has a contract.

[STL fan in MN]

So a few questions on the Offer Sheet and how it might effect the Blues.

An RFA can sign with a new team day after the draft is that correct?

Offer Sheets can begin on the same day, is that right?

Does this mean a player can have an Offer Sheet in front of him while simultaneously having a contract extension offer for his consideration? I'm a little confused on this ....or does the offered player have to be unsolicited at the time of the offer sheet?

Also, if the Blues do not extend Joel in the coming 9 days ...should there be cause for concern he might well receive an Offer Sheet? Is this like a 20% chance or even greater?

Your questions regarding signing with a different team and signing an offer sheet are essential the same question as the only way to sign with a different team as a RFA is via an offer sheet. But no, the date in question isn’t the day after the draft, it’s July 1.

Yes, Hofer is an offer sheet risk IMO. I wouldn’t call it likely but yes it’s a bit concerning he’s not signed to an extension already. A team could sign him for up to $4,680,076 and only owe the Blues a 2nd rd pick as compensation. That’s precisely what we did to Edmonton a year ago - gave Broberg the absolute highest dollar contract we could in the 2nd rd pick compensation range. I could absolutely see a team being willing to gamble that much on Hofer to either be their starter or more likely a 50/50 platoon guy with the opportunity to grow into the starter…and it only costing them a 2nd if we don’t match.

[DawgDad]

The Blues are going to have a salary number for Hofer, if he attracts a higher salary he's gone [most likely]. A second for him is not out of line if he is offer sheeted above the Blues number.

[STL fan in MN]

The Blues are going to have a salary number for Hofer, if he attracts a higher salary he's gone [most likely]. A second for him is not out of line if he is offer sheeted above the Blues number.

It’s not out of line but he’s still worth more to them than that. It’d also highly depends on the team that signs him. Are we talking a 2nd that’s likely to get up around pick 35 or one that could be in the 60s?

It’d be a blow to lose Joel for just a 2nd. It also wouldn’t be ideal to have to pay him $4.7ish million/year either. Hopefully Army can get him re-signed fairly soon.

[moose-and-squirrel]

maybe they can get Husso back

[theograce]

The Blues are going to have a salary number for Hofer, if he attracts a higher salary he's gone [most likely]. A second for him is not out of line if he is offer sheeted above the Blues number.

It’s not out of line but he’s still worth more to them than that. It’d also highly depends on the team that signs him. Are we talking a 2nd that’s likely to get up around pick 35 or one that could be in the 60s?

It’d be a blow to lose Joel for just a 2nd. It also wouldn’t be ideal to have to pay him $4.7ish million/year either. Hopefully Army can get him re-signed fairly soon.

Yup. Creates lots of problems

[Red7]

The Blues are going to have a salary number for Hofer, if he attracts a higher salary he's gone [most likely]. A second for him is not out of line if he is offer sheeted above the Blues number.

It’s not out of line but he’s still worth more to them than that. It’d also highly depends on the team that signs him. Are we talking a 2nd that’s likely to get up around pick 35 or one that could be in the 60s?

It’d be a blow to lose Joel for just a 2nd. It also wouldn’t be ideal to have to pay him $4.7ish million/year either. Hopefully Army can get him re-signed fairly soon.

Check out the return for #ONE goalies and you’ll find a second round pick for Hofer would be outstanding.

[bud white]

maybe they can get Husso back

Forgot the blue font, eh?

[dhsux]

Your questions regarding signing with a different team and signing an offer sheet are essential the same question as the only way to sign with a different team as a RFA is via an offer sheet. But no, the date in question isn’t the day after the draft, it’s July 1.

Of course, brain fart.

Thanks

[STL fan in MN]

The Blues are going to have a salary number for Hofer, if he attracts a higher salary he's gone [most likely]. A second for him is not out of line if he is offer sheeted above the Blues number.

It’s not out of line but he’s still worth more to them than that. It’d also highly depends on the team that signs him. Are we talking a 2nd that’s likely to get up around pick 35 or one that could be in the 60s?

It’d be a blow to lose Joel for just a 2nd. It also wouldn’t be ideal to have to pay him $4.7ish million/year either. Hopefully Army can get him re-signed fairly soon.

Check out the return for #ONE goalies and you’ll find a second round pick for Hofer would be outstanding.

Which is why I said a 2nd for him wouldn’t be out of line based on what goalies tend to go for. But he’s absolutely worth more than that to the Blues. Let’s be real. They’re ideally hoping Hofer can be their next starter and eventually take over from Binner. Losing him for a 2nd would be bad.

[bluetunehead]

The Blues are going to have a salary number for Hofer, if he attracts a higher salary he's gone [most likely]. A second for him is not out of line if he is offer sheeted above the Blues number.

It’s not out of line but he’s still worth more to them than that. It’d also highly depends on the team that signs him. Are we talking a 2nd that’s likely to get up around pick 35 or one that could be in the 60s?

It’d be a blow to lose Joel for just a 2nd. It also wouldn’t be ideal to have to pay him $4.7ish million/year either. Hopefully Army can get him re-signed fairly soon.

Yeah who is doing the signing makes a big difference. If it’s Edmonton and they‘re ready to go deep again (provided McDavid stays) then it’s not a great pick. If it’s a bottom dweller who just wants to find their future #1 it becomes more interesting to the Blues.

The Blues can also make a side deal for additional assets like Bowman did. The Blues really gave up a 2nd, two 3rds, and Paul Fischer in the Broberg/Holloway move. It wasn’t just the two draft picks.

[STL fan in MN]

The Blues are going to have a salary number for Hofer, if he attracts a higher salary he's gone [most likely]. A second for him is not out of line if he is offer sheeted above the Blues number.

It’s not out of line but he’s still worth more to them than that. It’d also highly depends on the team that signs him. Are we talking a 2nd that’s likely to get up around pick 35 or one that could be in the 60s?

It’d be a blow to lose Joel for just a 2nd. It also wouldn’t be ideal to have to pay him $4.7ish million/year either. Hopefully Army can get him re-signed fairly soon.

Yeah who is doing the signing makes a big difference. If it’s Edmonton and they‘re ready to go deep again (provided McDavid stays) then it’s not a great pick. If it’s a bottom dweller who just wants to find their future #1 it becomes more interesting to the Blues.

The Blues can also make a side deal for additional assets like Bowman did. The Blues really gave up a 2nd, two 3rds, and Paul Fischer in the Broberg/Holloway move. It wasn’t just the two draft picks.

Yep. They could absolutely try to get additional assets to not match the offer. But I mean, even if a team threw in an additional 3rd or Paul Fischer caliber of prospect, it’d still be a bad deal for the Blues. Unless a team would go high enough on Hofer to where the compensation would be a 1st and 3rd (which I doubt any team would do), then pretty much any offer sheet for Joel would be bad news for the Blues.

[dhsux]

The Blues are going to have a salary number for Hofer, if he attracts a higher salary he's gone [most likely]. A second for him is not out of line if he is offer sheeted above the Blues number.

It’s not out of line but he’s still worth more to them than that. It’d also highly depends on the team that signs him. Are we talking a 2nd that’s likely to get up around pick 35 or one that could be in the 60s?

It’d be a blow to lose Joel for just a 2nd. It also wouldn’t be ideal to have to pay him $4.7ish million/year either. Hopefully Army can get him re-signed fairly soon.

Yeah who is doing the signing makes a big difference. If it’s Edmonton and they‘re ready to go deep again (provided McDavid stays) then it’s not a great pick. If it’s a bottom dweller who just wants to find their future #1 it becomes more interesting to the Blues.

The Blues can also make a side deal for additional assets like Bowman did. The Blues really gave up a 2nd, two 3rds, and Paul Fischer in the Broberg/Holloway move. It wasn’t just the two draft picks.

Yep. They could absolutely try to get additional assets to not match the offer. But I mean, even if a team threw in an additional 3rd or Paul Fischer caliber of prospect, it’d still be a bad deal for the Blues. Unless a team would go high enough on Hofer to where the compensation would be a 1st and 3rd (which I doubt any team would do), then pretty much any offer sheet for Joel would be bad news for the Blues.

I would have to think their true analysis of Ellis, Cranley and Zherenko would come into play right about here.

[Aesa]

The Blues are going to have a salary number for Hofer, if he attracts a higher salary he's gone [most likely]. A second for him is not out of line if he is offer sheeted above the Blues number.

It’s not out of line but he’s still worth more to them than that. It’d also highly depends on the team that signs him. Are we talking a 2nd that’s likely to get up around pick 35 or one that could be in the 60s?

It’d be a blow to lose Joel for just a 2nd. It also wouldn’t be ideal to have to pay him $4.7ish million/year either. Hopefully Army can get him re-signed fairly soon.

Yeah who is doing the signing makes a big difference. If it’s Edmonton and they‘re ready to go deep again (provided McDavid stays) then it’s not a great pick. If it’s a bottom dweller who just wants to find their future #1 it becomes more interesting to the Blues.

The Blues can also make a side deal for additional assets like Bowman did. The Blues really gave up a 2nd, two 3rds, and Paul Fischer in the Broberg/Holloway move. It wasn’t just the two draft picks.

Yep. They could absolutely try to get additional assets to not match the offer. But I mean, even if a team threw in an additional 3rd or Paul Fischer caliber of prospect, it’d still be a bad deal for the Blues. Unless a team would go high enough on Hofer to where the compensation would be a 1st and 3rd (which I doubt any team would do), then pretty much any offer sheet for Joel would be bad news for the Blues.

Maybe, but only if he accepts and signs it.

[STL fan in MN]

The Blues are going to have a salary number for Hofer, if he attracts a higher salary he's gone [most likely]. A second for him is not out of line if he is offer sheeted above the Blues number.

It’s not out of line but he’s still worth more to them than that. It’d also highly depends on the team that signs him. Are we talking a 2nd that’s likely to get up around pick 35 or one that could be in the 60s?

It’d be a blow to lose Joel for just a 2nd. It also wouldn’t be ideal to have to pay him $4.7ish million/year either. Hopefully Army can get him re-signed fairly soon.

Yeah who is doing the signing makes a big difference. If it’s Edmonton and they‘re ready to go deep again (provided McDavid stays) then it’s not a great pick. If it’s a bottom dweller who just wants to find their future #1 it becomes more interesting to the Blues.

The Blues can also make a side deal for additional assets like Bowman did. The Blues really gave up a 2nd, two 3rds, and Paul Fischer in the Broberg/Holloway move. It wasn’t just the two draft picks.

Yep. They could absolutely try to get additional assets to not match the offer. But I mean, even if a team threw in an additional 3rd or Paul Fischer caliber of prospect, it’d still be a bad deal for the Blues. Unless a team would go high enough on Hofer to where the compensation would be a 1st and 3rd (which I doubt any team would do), then pretty much any offer sheet for Joel would be bad news for the Blues.

Maybe, but only if he accepts and signs it.

Well yeah. We only ever hear about the signed ones. I was referring to any offer sheet he signs would be bad.