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Re: Oilers: Biggest Fraud in SCF history

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I seriously doubt any NHL club could have beaten Florida in this season's Finals. They're perfectly built for it, and they fully buy into their system.
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Re: Oilers: Biggest Fraud in SCF history

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Exactly. Florida is great. Oilers are real good. Final 2 teams. Better than 30 other teams the Oilers are.
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Re: Oilers: Biggest Fraud in SCF history

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Cahokanut wrote: 18 Jun 2025 14:33 pm
bud white wrote: 18 Jun 2025 13:49 pm Voting Point Totals
Sam Bennett, Florida: 76 points
Brad Marchand, Florida: 68 points
Sergei Bobrovsky, Florida: 10 points
Leon Draisaitl, Edmonton: 7 points
Gustav Forsling, Florida: 1 point
Not one vote for the guy with the most points in the tournament.
Seems odd.
He was -7 and had a lone goal in the Final.

When you melt on the biggest stage voters remember.
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Re: Oilers: Biggest Fraud in SCF history

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stlblue06 wrote: 18 Jun 2025 16:34 pm
theograce wrote: 18 Jun 2025 16:16 pm
stlblue06 wrote: 18 Jun 2025 16:05 pm
Tabasco Flowers wrote: 18 Jun 2025 14:38 pm The Oil desperately need a real goalie, and some decent D. Until then, they'll be also-rans.
That’s been their team evaluation every offseason for the past 5+ years. They improved on their offensive depth outside of the big 2 but considering how much money they have spent on their forwards, it should be a lot better. There is a major drop off after Hyman. The bottom six didn’t contribute much especially compared to FLA.

EDM actually got really good goaltending through the first 3 rounds. After Skinner stumbled in the first 2 game, Pickerd went 6-0. Then Skinner came in a was top tier against Vegas and Dallas. Still when you have been trying to win the cup with 2 of the best players in the game, getting a secure #1 should have been done by now.
Why is it that you think their goaltending was really good in the first 3 rounds then poor in the final?

The Oilers dominated in the first 3 rounds. Then Florida was farrr too deep for them.

That’s what happened. The Oanthers could have beat the Oilers with any NHL goaltender
lol that’s funny. When your goalie(s) let up 3+ in all 6 games, 4+ in 5 out
You mean like every team the panthers dismantled? 22-8 in 4 clinching games. Beat the Leafs and Oilers 11-2 in clinchers. Outscored the Canes 21-10.

All the goalies sucked right?

Watch some hockey
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Re: Oilers: Biggest Fraud in SCF history

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theograce wrote: 18 Jun 2025 17:06 pm
stlblue06 wrote: 18 Jun 2025 16:34 pm
theograce wrote: 18 Jun 2025 16:16 pm
stlblue06 wrote: 18 Jun 2025 16:05 pm
Tabasco Flowers wrote: 18 Jun 2025 14:38 pm The Oil desperately need a real goalie, and some decent D. Until then, they'll be also-rans.
That’s been their team evaluation every offseason for the past 5+ years. They improved on their offensive depth outside of the big 2 but considering how much money they have spent on their forwards, it should be a lot better. There is a major drop off after Hyman. The bottom six didn’t contribute much especially compared to FLA.

EDM actually got really good goaltending through the first 3 rounds. After Skinner stumbled in the first 2 game, Pickerd went 6-0. Then Skinner came in a was top tier against Vegas and Dallas. Still when you have been trying to win the cup with 2 of the best players in the game, getting a secure #1 should have been done by now.
Why is it that you think their goaltending was really good in the first 3 rounds then poor in the final?

The Oilers dominated in the first 3 rounds. Then Florida was farrr too deep for them.

That’s what happened. The Oanthers could have beat the Oilers with any NHL goaltender
lol that’s funny. When your goalie(s) let up 3+ in all 6 games, 4+ in 5 out
You mean like every team the panthers dismantled? 22-8 in 4 clinching games. Beat the Leafs and Oilers 11-2 in clinchers. Outscored the Canes 21-10.

All the goalies sucked right?

Watch some hockey
Hedman -6. I mean if only Tampa had better goaltending. Vasi sucks too
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Re: Oilers: Biggest Fraud in SCF history

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theograce wrote: 18 Jun 2025 17:15 pm
theograce wrote: 18 Jun 2025 17:06 pm
stlblue06 wrote: 18 Jun 2025 16:34 pm
theograce wrote: 18 Jun 2025 16:16 pm
stlblue06 wrote: 18 Jun 2025 16:05 pm
Tabasco Flowers wrote: 18 Jun 2025 14:38 pm The Oil desperately need a real goalie, and some decent D. Until then, they'll be also-rans.
That’s been their team evaluation every offseason for the past 5+ years. They improved on their offensive depth outside of the big 2 but considering how much money they have spent on their forwards, it should be a lot better. There is a major drop off after Hyman. The bottom six didn’t contribute much especially compared to FLA.

EDM actually got really good goaltending through the first 3 rounds. After Skinner stumbled in the first 2 game, Pickerd went 6-0. Then Skinner came in a was top tier against Vegas and Dallas. Still when you have been trying to win the cup with 2 of the best players in the game, getting a secure #1 should have been done by now.
Why is it that you think their goaltending was really good in the first 3 rounds then poor in the final?

The Oilers dominated in the first 3 rounds. Then Florida was farrr too deep for them.

That’s what happened. The Oanthers could have beat the Oilers with any NHL goaltender
lol that’s funny. When your goalie(s) let up 3+ in all 6 games, 4+ in 5 out
You mean like every team the panthers dismantled? 22-8 in 4 clinching games. Beat the Leafs and Oilers 11-2 in clinchers. Outscored the Canes 21-10.

All the goalies sucked right?

Watch some hockey
Hedman -6. I mean if only Tampa had better goaltending. Vasi sucks too
Keep crying. Your tears are delicious
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Re: Oilers: Biggest Fraud in SCF history

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hullie wrote: 18 Jun 2025 18:02 pm
theograce wrote: 18 Jun 2025 17:15 pm
theograce wrote: 18 Jun 2025 17:06 pm
stlblue06 wrote: 18 Jun 2025 16:34 pm
theograce wrote: 18 Jun 2025 16:16 pm
stlblue06 wrote: 18 Jun 2025 16:05 pm
Tabasco Flowers wrote: 18 Jun 2025 14:38 pm The Oil desperately need a real goalie, and some decent D. Until then, they'll be also-rans.
That’s been their team evaluation every offseason for the past 5+ years. They improved on their offensive depth outside of the big 2 but considering how much money they have spent on their forwards, it should be a lot better. There is a major drop off after Hyman. The bottom six didn’t contribute much especially compared to FLA.

EDM actually got really good goaltending through the first 3 rounds. After Skinner stumbled in the first 2 game, Pickerd went 6-0. Then Skinner came in a was top tier against Vegas and Dallas. Still when you have been trying to win the cup with 2 of the best players in the game, getting a secure #1 should have been done by now.
Why is it that you think their goaltending was really good in the first 3 rounds then poor in the final?

The Oilers dominated in the first 3 rounds. Then Florida was farrr too deep for them.

That’s what happened. The Oanthers could have beat the Oilers with any NHL goaltender
lol that’s funny. When your goalie(s) let up 3+ in all 6 games, 4+ in 5 out
You mean like every team the panthers dismantled? 22-8 in 4 clinching games. Beat the Leafs and Oilers 11-2 in clinchers. Outscored the Canes 21-10.

All the goalies sucked right?

Watch some hockey
Hedman -6. I mean if only Tampa had better goaltending. Vasi sucks too
Keep crying. Your tears are delicious
Saying Florida dominated everyone is crying…enjoy the pickleball

Laughing
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Re: Oilers: Biggest Fraud in SCF history

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theograce wrote: 18 Jun 2025 18:08 pm
hullie wrote: 18 Jun 2025 18:02 pm
theograce wrote: 18 Jun 2025 17:15 pm
theograce wrote: 18 Jun 2025 17:06 pm
stlblue06 wrote: 18 Jun 2025 16:34 pm
theograce wrote: 18 Jun 2025 16:16 pm
stlblue06 wrote: 18 Jun 2025 16:05 pm
Tabasco Flowers wrote: 18 Jun 2025 14:38 pm The Oil desperately need a real goalie, and some decent D. Until then, they'll be also-rans.
That’s been their team evaluation every offseason for the past 5+ years. They improved on their offensive depth outside of the big 2 but considering how much money they have spent on their forwards, it should be a lot better. There is a major drop off after Hyman. The bottom six didn’t contribute much especially compared to FLA.

EDM actually got really good goaltending through the first 3 rounds. After Skinner stumbled in the first 2 game, Pickerd went 6-0. Then Skinner came in a was top tier against Vegas and Dallas. Still when you have been trying to win the cup with 2 of the best players in the game, getting a secure #1 should have been done by now.
Why is it that you think their goaltending was really good in the first 3 rounds then poor in the final?

The Oilers dominated in the first 3 rounds. Then Florida was farrr too deep for them.

That’s what happened. The Oanthers could have beat the Oilers with any NHL goaltender
lol that’s funny. When your goalie(s) let up 3+ in all 6 games, 4+ in 5 out
You mean like every team the panthers dismantled? 22-8 in 4 clinching games. Beat the Leafs and Oilers 11-2 in clinchers. Outscored the Canes 21-10.

All the goalies sucked right?

Watch some hockey
Hedman -6. I mean if only Tampa had better goaltending. Vasi sucks too
Keep crying. Your tears are delicious
Saying Florida dominated everyone is crying…enjoy the pickleball

Laughing
You must have loved that Matty T. scored the Cup winning goal against McDavid. Yummy.

But…4 Nations. Bahaha.
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Harry York 37 wrote: 18 Jun 2025 15:55 pm
callitwhatyouwant wrote: 18 Jun 2025 15:29 pm
Harry S Deals wrote: 18 Jun 2025 15:05 pm Oilers could have used one of the biggest risers of '25 for sure.....
That's interesting, wasn't he like the 4th most valuable contract this year too? I really hope he's able to put a couple years together and keep that momentum. The way he played it definitely looked like he could replicate the play, even if it's not in points totals. The amount of times he stripped the other team of the puck and caused extra forecheck pressure during a line switch was interesting. It was something I didn't know he had in his game.

I watch a lot of hockey, especially the 2 years the Blues were out of it. But Holloway was hidden so much on the Oilers he was truly an unknown. Crazy to think he played 50 games averaging 9 minutes and 40 averaging 11. They really didn't know what they had. They had no problem giving Kapanen 12 minutes a game this year. (admirable job what Kaps did in the playoffs) What a mismanagement of assets.

I have a feeling things are going to get rather toxic in Edmonton between what came out last summer and what will be in their future. According to reports last year, I believe it was Thomas hanging with McDavid and a couple of the other guys golfing or something and they were (upset) when they got the news those guys got offer sheeted.
Holloway and Broberg both shone brightly in the SC Playoffs last year.
A lot of us were talking about. Hols got benched in the finals for some kid mistakes and came back the next game on fire.
Broberg had an end to end rush for a goal in the finals.
They were shining….
But they wish they were in EDM

Everyone is talking about it.
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hullie wrote: 18 Jun 2025 18:02 pm
Keep crying. Your tears are delicious
He's quoting himself now.

hahaha
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It’s like one of the biggest choke jobs in first round history has made people follow harder.

It’s odd and deflective/projective

The massive choke job by the Blues hurt me too guys.
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There's a very fine line between winning and losing.
Did you hear anyone talking about Edmonton not having enough depth when they demolished Vegas and Dallas?

Dallas and Vegas were supposedly very deep teams.
Both the Stars and Knights went 3 deep at center like the Panthers.
Duchene and Johnston were horrible for Dallas while Hertl was a complete no show for the Knights.
I'm starting to think that many of us have overrated both of those teams.

At some point Paul Maurice has to get a lot of credit.
There's a misconception that Florida is this huge team, but in reality they play a lot bigger than their actual height and weight.
They sit in the bottom third in average weight and are middle of the pack as far as height.
Only 2 of their top 9 forwards are 200 lbs.

The Panthers also seem to play as a 5 man group much better than the other teams.
You need to be good defensively and/or ultra competitive to play for the Panthers.
The terms "buy in" and "team culture" are what we hear constantly.
Seth Jones talked about how much video they made him watch after he landed in Miami to learn how to play their way.

Florida replaced Tarasenko, Montour, & OEL with Marchand, Jones, and Schmidt.

Besides Holloway, don't forget about Foegele & McLeod from last year for Edmonton.
They were replaced by older slower veterans.

Last year in the finals Ceci and Broberg actually played more than Nurse.
They were replaced by Klingberg & Walman.

The Hyman injury forced Perry into much more ice time.
Corey played 18:54 (ATOI) in this year's final compared to only 9:43 in last year finals.
The 3 OT games skew the time a bit, but you get the point.
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theograce wrote: 18 Jun 2025 18:27 pm It’s like one of the biggest choke jobs in first round history has made people follow harder.

It’s odd and deflective/projective

The massive choke job by the Blues hurt me too guys.
You’re like the Steven Seagal of debate judo/deflection.
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TheHighHat wrote: 18 Jun 2025 18:53 pm There's a very fine line between winning and losing.
Did you hear anyone talking about Edmonton not having enough depth when they demolished Vegas and Dallas?

Dallas and Vegas were supposedly very deep teams.
Both the Stars and Knights went 3 deep at center like the Panthers.
Duchene and Johnston were horrible for Dallas while Hertl was a complete no show for the Knights.
I'm starting to think that many of us have overrated both of those teams.

At some point Paul Maurice has to get a lot of credit.
There's a misconception that Florida is this huge team, but in reality they play a lot bigger than their actual height and weight.
They sit in the bottom third in average weight and are middle of the pack as far as height.
Only 2 of their top 9 forwards are 200 lbs.

The Panthers also seem to play as a 5 man group much better than the other teams.
You need to be good defensively and/or ultra competitive to play for the Panthers.
The terms "buy in" and "team culture" are what we hear constantly.
Seth Jones talked about how much video they made him watch after he landed in Miami to learn how to play their way.

Florida replaced Tarasenko, Montour, & OEL with Marchand, Jones, and Schmidt.

Besides Holloway, don't forget about Foegele & McLeod from last year for Edmonton.
They were replaced by older slower veterans.

Last year in the finals Ceci and Broberg actually played more than Nurse.
They were replaced by Klingberg & Walman.

The Hyman injury forced Perry into much more ice time.
Corey played 18:54 (ATOI) in this year's final compared to only 9:43 in last year finals.
The 3 OT games skew the time a bit, but you get the point.
Panthers are big where it counts. The guys who play the most are big/nasty. Top 4 is big and nasty
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Some Blues fans and people in stl have called the Blues’s choke the biggest choke in St. Louis sports history.

I mean it’s up there but …
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TheJackBurton wrote: 17 Jun 2025 22:21 pm Can't rule them out of making one more run because of the weak Pacific, but that should just about take them out of Finals talk for a few years.

Until they fix the defense and goaltending they aren't legitimate contenders.
They beat the stars and they sent the panthers to 6 games. Yes they were ultimately still beat and the worse team, but i just dont get thw culture of saying the 2nd place team werent contenders.

They dominated the stars who dominated the jets who beat us.

They shocked the panthers with 2 comebacks and nearly pulled out a 3rd game. This despite being projected to lose in the 1st round. They were a legitjmate team and saying elsewise is just stupid nonsense.
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