Trevor Bauer on Monday wins in court, he wins on the field why

[govman]

He was suspended without pay for 2 seasons.
That is actual loss.
He can also make the claim that he was blackballed from gainful employment after the suspension ended.
And all without cause.

In all states - including 'right to work" states - there are minimum cause thresholds which must be met, and which protect the rights of employees.

I do not pretend to know every aspect of Bauer's behaviors.
Nor am I in any way endorsing his character.
But, there is no question he has strong cause to sue MLB.

100% agree w/ the quoted material.

If you truly believe there was no collusion keeping Bauer out of MLB then you are delusional.

Correct.
He was 8-5 with a 2.59 ERA in 17 starts and led the league in innings and strikeouts the day he was suspended.
After released by the Dodgers, he was forced to look for work in other nations.
In Yokohama Japan in 2023, he went 10-4, with a 2.76 ERA and recorded 130 K's in 130 innings.
in the Mexican League in 2024, he went 10-0, with a 2.48 ERA and recorded 120 K's in 83 innings.
Those results would normally produce a long line of teams offering a contract.
In 2023 and 2024 and 2025 he applied for MLB pitching jobs - and was denied 90 out of 90 times from the opportunity for employment.
He has a very, very strong case against MLB.

and when has MLB lost a collusin case, or any other big-league sport?

[desertrat23]

He was suspended without pay for 2 seasons.
That is actual loss.
He can also make the claim that he was blackballed from gainful employment after the suspension ended.
And all without cause.

In all states - including 'right to work" states - there are minimum cause thresholds which must be met, and which protect the rights of employees.

I do not pretend to know every aspect of Bauer's behaviors.
Nor am I in any way endorsing his character.
But, there is no question he has strong cause to sue MLB.

100% agree w/ the quoted material.

If you truly believe there was no collusion keeping Bauer out of MLB then you are delusional.

Correct.
He was 8-5 with a 2.59 ERA in 17 starts and led the league in innings and strikeouts the day he was suspended.
After released by the Dodgers, he was forced to look for work in other nations.
In Yokohama Japan in 2023, he went 10-4, with a 2.76 ERA and recorded 130 K's in 130 innings.
in the Mexican League in 2024, he went 10-0, with a 2.48 ERA and recorded 120 K's in 83 innings.
Those results would normally produce a long line of teams offering a contract.
In 2023 and 2024 and 2025 he applied for MLB pitching jobs - and was denied 90 out of 90 times from the opportunity for employment.
He has a very, very strong case against MLB.

and when has MLB lost a collusin case, or any other big-league sport?

In the late 80s they lost a major collusion case with regard to free agency — but yeah, it’s been a while.

[Wattage]

He was suspended without pay for 2 seasons.
That is actual loss.
He can also make the claim that he was blackballed from gainful employment after the suspension ended.
And all without cause.

In all states - including 'right to work" states - there are minimum cause thresholds which must be met, and which protect the rights of employees.

I do not pretend to know every aspect of Bauer's behaviors.
Nor am I in any way endorsing his character.
But, there is no question he has strong cause to sue MLB.

100% agree w/ the quoted material.

If you truly believe there was no collusion keeping Bauer out of MLB then you are delusional.

Correct.
He was 8-5 with a 2.59 ERA in 17 starts and led the league in innings and strikeouts the day he was suspended.
After released by the Dodgers, he was forced to look for work in other nations.
In Yokohama Japan in 2023, he went 10-4, with a 2.76 ERA and recorded 130 K's in 130 innings.
in the Mexican League in 2024, he went 10-0, with a 2.48 ERA and recorded 120 K's in 83 innings.
Those results would normally produce a long line of teams offering a contract.
In 2023 and 2024 and 2025 he applied for MLB pitching jobs - and was denied 90 out of 90 times from the opportunity for employment.
He has a very, very strong case against MLB.

and when has MLB lost a collusin case, or any other big-league sport?

The mlb numbers ymfrom that ywar- yes. Those numbers in japan and mexican league- umm no. Theres plenty of pitchers who have had those numbers in japan and not had long list of teams wanting to offer contract. And when have we seen anyone getting contracts from mexican league? Robinson Cano at age 42 is one of the best hitters in that league despite having a .373 ops in mlb at age 39 3 years ago.

[Melville]

He was suspended without pay for 2 seasons.
That is actual loss.
He can also make the claim that he was blackballed from gainful employment after the suspension ended.
And all without cause.

In all states - including 'right to work" states - there are minimum cause thresholds which must be met, and which protect the rights of employees.

I do not pretend to know every aspect of Bauer's behaviors.
Nor am I in any way endorsing his character.
But, there is no question he has strong cause to sue MLB.

100% agree w/ the quoted material.

If you truly believe there was no collusion keeping Bauer out of MLB then you are delusional.

Correct.
He was 8-5 with a 2.59 ERA in 17 starts and led the league in innings and strikeouts the day he was suspended.
After released by the Dodgers, he was forced to look for work in other nations.
In Yokohama Japan in 2023, he went 10-4, with a 2.76 ERA and recorded 130 K's in 130 innings.
in the Mexican League in 2024, he went 10-0, with a 2.48 ERA and recorded 120 K's in 83 innings.
Those results would normally produce a long line of teams offering a contract.
In 2023 and 2024 and 2025 he applied for MLB pitching jobs - and was denied 90 out of 90 times from the opportunity for employment.
He has a very, very strong case against MLB.

and when has MLB lost a collusin case, or any other big-league sport?

In the late 80s they lost a major collusion case with regard to free agency — but yeah, it’s been a while.

Bauer has already beaten MLB once in arbitration on this matter.
Good chance he beats them again if he takes them to court.
In fact, his argument has only been strengthened since then.

[Melville]

He was suspended without pay for 2 seasons.
That is actual loss.
He can also make the claim that he was blackballed from gainful employment after the suspension ended.
And all without cause.

In all states - including 'right to work" states - there are minimum cause thresholds which must be met, and which protect the rights of employees.

I do not pretend to know every aspect of Bauer's behaviors.
Nor am I in any way endorsing his character.
But, there is no question he has strong cause to sue MLB.

100% agree w/ the quoted material.

If you truly believe there was no collusion keeping Bauer out of MLB then you are delusional.

Correct.
He was 8-5 with a 2.59 ERA in 17 starts and led the league in innings and strikeouts the day he was suspended.
After released by the Dodgers, he was forced to look for work in other nations.
In Yokohama Japan in 2023, he went 10-4, with a 2.76 ERA and recorded 130 K's in 130 innings.
in the Mexican League in 2024, he went 10-0, with a 2.48 ERA and recorded 120 K's in 83 innings.
Those results would normally produce a long line of teams offering a contract.
In 2023 and 2024 and 2025 he applied for MLB pitching jobs - and was denied 90 out of 90 times from the opportunity for employment.
He has a very, very strong case against MLB.

and when has MLB lost a collusin case, or any other big-league sport?

The mlb numbers ymfrom that ywar- yes. Those numbers in japan and mexican league- umm no. Theres plenty of pitchers who have had those numbers in japan and not had long list of teams wanting to offer contract. And when have we seen anyone getting contracts from mexican league? Robinson Cano at age 42 is one of the best hitters in that league despite having a .373 ops in mlb at age 39 3 years ago.

Bauer is almost exactly the same age now as Sonny Gray was when he signed his 3 yr 75M dollar contract with the Cardinals.
Prime age for an MLB starter.
Not 42, as Cano is.
Zero question an open market would highly value him right now - but that market has been arbitrarily closed by MLB.
As I recall, Bauer has offered to play for the minimum.
Not one offer.
He has a very compelling case.

[Pink Freud]

All of you internet labor lawyers crack me up. MLB is a private enterprise and they can hire, fire, not hire or not fire whoever the hell\l they (drat) well please. Now sure, if Trevor has some smoking gun that he wasn't hired because he's white, or a Native American, or Jewish, or Muslim, or some other protected class, then he can go hire Brown & Crouppen and after years of litigation maybe he will get somewhere. He doesn't. He's likely been blackballed because he appears to be a ginormous douchnozzle.

Otherwise MLB, like any private company, can do as they please in regard to their employees. Let's say a guy shows up for an exec level type position with any rando big corporation. The corporation, like MLB and any large entity, has serious background checkers along with access to all kinds of info about you and me. And they come to find out that you have been part of some pretty serious and nefarious allegations in the bedroom that may or may not arise to the level of crimes.

Doesn't remotely matter if they do or don't. The evidence is out there. Sure our company absolutely wants a C level resource who gets off on rough sex and it's out there for everyone to see. Strike one. Then they find out in your previous couple of jobs, most everyone you work with thought you were a raging (donkey)(pit). Strike two. There are videos out there of public outbursts of you acting like an idiot in your job. Strike three. Thanks for the interview, we will be in touch.

There is not case, no lawsuit, he's not making a dime in a lawsuit.

Very well said,all the way through. However, you missed only one thing: How "any rando big corporation" would finish the job interview with a Trevor Bauer: After the blatant lie "We will be in touch", they'll say "We wish you well in your future endeavors"; that's like a team owner's dreaded vote of confidence in the manager: The ultimate kiss-off.

[3dender]

Bauer is almost exactly the same age now as Sonny Gray was when he signed his 3 yr 75M dollar contract with the Cardinals.
Prime age for an MLB starter.
Not 42, as Cano is.
Zero question an open market would highly value him right now - but that market has been arbitrarily closed by MLB.
As I recall, Bauer has offered to play for the minimum.
Not one offer.
He has a very compelling case.

The point is that the numbers you cited from Bauer in the Mexican League were from the same year that 41yo Robinson Cano had a 1.100 OPS... he had the 2nd highest OPS in the league that year. 33yo Yasiel Puig was #8 with a 1.020 OPS.

To anyone with common sense that makes Bauer's numbers really unimpressive. And he wasn't even the best pitcher in the league (he was #8 by ERA, #4 by WHIP and #3 by K/BB). He was not as good as 35yo career Mexican Leaguer David Reyes.

But keep telling us about how effective he'd be in the majors

[Pink Freud]

If there really is any team who could use Trevor Bauer, it would be the Rockies or Marlins, since both teams are godawful; he'd be good enough to easily make the pitching staff right now; and neither club draws enough fans to give a hoot. At least he'd bring the franchises the attention of curiosity and notoriety, which is better than being completely ignored. (Just ask any forum troll)

[Wattage]

He was suspended without pay for 2 seasons.
That is actual loss.
He can also make the claim that he was blackballed from gainful employment after the suspension ended.
And all without cause.

In all states - including 'right to work" states - there are minimum cause thresholds which must be met, and which protect the rights of employees.

I do not pretend to know every aspect of Bauer's behaviors.
Nor am I in any way endorsing his character.
But, there is no question he has strong cause to sue MLB.

100% agree w/ the quoted material.

If you truly believe there was no collusion keeping Bauer out of MLB then you are delusional.

Correct.
He was 8-5 with a 2.59 ERA in 17 starts and led the league in innings and strikeouts the day he was suspended.
After released by the Dodgers, he was forced to look for work in other nations.
In Yokohama Japan in 2023, he went 10-4, with a 2.76 ERA and recorded 130 K's in 130 innings.
in the Mexican League in 2024, he went 10-0, with a 2.48 ERA and recorded 120 K's in 83 innings.
Those results would normally produce a long line of teams offering a contract.
In 2023 and 2024 and 2025 he applied for MLB pitching jobs - and was denied 90 out of 90 times from the opportunity for employment.
He has a very, very strong case against MLB.

and when has MLB lost a collusin case, or any other big-league sport?

The mlb numbers ymfrom that ywar- yes. Those numbers in japan and mexican league- umm no. Theres plenty of pitchers who have had those numbers in japan and not had long list of teams wanting to offer contract. And when have we seen anyone getting contracts from mexican league? Robinson Cano at age 42 is one of the best hitters in that league despite having a .373 ops in mlb at age 39 3 years ago.

Bauer is almost exactly the same age now as Sonny Gray was when he signed his 3 yr 75M dollar contract with the Cardinals.
Prime age for an MLB starter.
Not 42, as Cano is.
Zero question an open market would highly value him right now - but that market has been arbitrarily closed by MLB.
As I recall, Bauer has offered to play for the minimum.
Not one offer.
He has a very compelling case.

We heard someone ask bauer if he would consider playing for league minimum and he said yes hed consider it Thats very different than him actually officially agreeing to it. With the court battles and countersueing he may have went back on that thought.

We dont know what conversations hes had with mlb teams. It was reported in june 2024 that the astros actually witnessed him throw a bullpen session so they were at least agreeing to see him although it never resulted in a contract

[Ozziesfan41]

He was suspended without pay for 2 seasons.
That is actual loss.
He can also make the claim that he was blackballed from gainful employment after the suspension ended.
And all without cause.

In all states - including 'right to work" states - there are minimum cause thresholds which must be met, and which protect the rights of employees.

I do not pretend to know every aspect of Bauer's behaviors.
Nor am I in any way endorsing his character.
But, there is no question he has strong cause to sue MLB.

100% agree w/ the quoted material.

If you truly believe there was no collusion keeping Bauer out of MLB then you are delusional.

Correct.
He was 8-5 with a 2.59 ERA in 17 starts and led the league in innings and strikeouts the day he was suspended.
After released by the Dodgers, he was forced to look for work in other nations.
In Yokohama Japan in 2023, he went 10-4, with a 2.76 ERA and recorded 130 K's in 130 innings.
in the Mexican League in 2024, he went 10-0, with a 2.48 ERA and recorded 120 K's in 83 innings.
Those results would normally produce a long line of teams offering a contract.
In 2023 and 2024 and 2025 he applied for MLB pitching jobs - and was denied 90 out of 90 times from the opportunity for employment.
He has a very, very strong case against MLB.

and when has MLB lost a collusin case, or any other big-league sport?

The mlb numbers ymfrom that ywar- yes. Those numbers in japan and mexican league- umm no. Theres plenty of pitchers who have had those numbers in japan and not had long list of teams wanting to offer contract. And when have we seen anyone getting contracts from mexican league? Robinson Cano at age 42 is one of the best hitters in that league despite having a .373 ops in mlb at age 39 3 years ago.

Bauer is almost exactly the same age now as Sonny Gray was when he signed his 3 yr 75M dollar contract with the Cardinals.
Prime age for an MLB starter.
Not 42, as Cano is.
Zero question an open market would highly value him right now - but that market has been arbitrarily closed by MLB.
As I recall, Bauer has offered to play for the minimum.
Not one offer.
He has a very compelling case.

We heard someone ask bauer if he would consider playing for league minimum and he said yes hed consider it Thats very different than him actually officially agreeing to it. With the court battles and countersueing he may have went back on that thought.

We dont know what conversations hes had with mlb teams. It was reported in june 2024 that the astros actually witnessed him throw a bullpen session so they were at least agreeing to see him although it never resulted in a contract

Bauer also said he was only going to sign one year contracts and never sign a multi year deal then immediately signed a multi year with the Dodgers so he is known to say things he really doesn't mean

[thetank2]

Bauer was 17-9 in 2017
Bauer had a 2.21 ERA in 2018
Bauer won the Cy Young in 2020
Bauer had a 2.71 ERA in 2021, before that disgusting woman ruined his life.

Anyone pretending that he wasn't good, wasn't in a dominant period of his career... or that denies he was financially damaged to the tune of well over $100 million, if not $200 million, is so blatantly biased and stupid that they should never be taken seriously again.

He's white that's why he didn't get another chance ....however many others have beat their girlfriend or wife...shot at a gun at them etc...and was playing again...facts suck

lol if u think that’s the reason he’s not playing you aren’t too bright

He’s a bad actor.

Toxic, as Melville would say.

His personality may very well be.
But he was wronged by MLB.

He wasn't wronged. He likes choking women. Then he uses his wealth to win in court.

[Ozziesfan41]

He was suspended without pay for 2 seasons.
That is actual loss.
He can also make the claim that he was blackballed from gainful employment after the suspension ended.
And all without cause.

In all states - including 'right to work" states - there are minimum cause thresholds which must be met, and which protect the rights of employees.

I do not pretend to know every aspect of Bauer's behaviors.
Nor am I in any way endorsing his character.
But, there is no question he has strong cause to sue MLB.

100% agree w/ the quoted material.

If you truly believe there was no collusion keeping Bauer out of MLB then you are delusional.

Correct.
He was 8-5 with a 2.59 ERA in 17 starts and led the league in innings and strikeouts the day he was suspended.
After released by the Dodgers, he was forced to look for work in other nations.
In Yokohama Japan in 2023, he went 10-4, with a 2.76 ERA and recorded 130 K's in 130 innings.
in the Mexican League in 2024, he went 10-0, with a 2.48 ERA and recorded 120 K's in 83 innings.
Those results would normally produce a long line of teams offering a contract.
In 2023 and 2024 and 2025 he applied for MLB pitching jobs - and was denied 90 out of 90 times from the opportunity for employment.
He has a very, very strong case against MLB.

and when has MLB lost a collusin case, or any other big-league sport?

In the late 80s they lost a major collusion case with regard to free agency — but yeah, it’s been a while.

Bauer has already beaten MLB once in arbitration on this matter.
Good chance he beats them again if he takes them to court.
In fact, his argument has only been strengthened since then.

0 chance he beats them in court

[thetank2]

He was suspended without pay for 2 seasons.
That is actual loss.
He can also make the claim that he was blackballed from gainful employment after the suspension ended.
And all without cause.

In all states - including 'right to work" states - there are minimum cause thresholds which must be met, and which protect the rights of employees.

I do not pretend to know every aspect of Bauer's behaviors.
Nor am I in any way endorsing his character.
But, there is no question he has strong cause to sue MLB.

100% agree w/ the quoted material.

If you truly believe there was no collusion keeping Bauer out of MLB then you are delusional.

Correct.
He was 8-5 with a 2.59 ERA in 17 starts and led the league in innings and strikeouts the day he was suspended.
After released by the Dodgers, he was forced to look for work in other nations.
In Yokohama Japan in 2023, he went 10-4, with a 2.76 ERA and recorded 130 K's in 130 innings.
in the Mexican League in 2024, he went 10-0, with a 2.48 ERA and recorded 120 K's in 83 innings.
Those results would normally produce a long line of teams offering a contract.
In 2023 and 2024 and 2025 he applied for MLB pitching jobs - and was denied 90 out of 90 times from the opportunity for employment.
He has a very, very strong case against MLB.

and when has MLB lost a collusin case, or any other big-league sport?

In the late 80s they lost a major collusion case with regard to free agency — but yeah, it’s been a while.

Bauer has already beaten MLB once in arbitration on this matter.
Good chance he beats them again if he takes them to court.
In fact, his argument has only been strengthened since then.

0 chance he beats them in court

I will tell you why. MLB will get the other women that he likes to choke in the past to testify. What a despicable man. A real professional.

[Melville]

Bauer is almost exactly the same age now as Sonny Gray was when he signed his 3 yr 75M dollar contract with the Cardinals.
Prime age for an MLB starter.
Not 42, as Cano is.
Zero question an open market would highly value him right now - but that market has been arbitrarily closed by MLB.
As I recall, Bauer has offered to play for the minimum.
Not one offer.
He has a very compelling case.

The point is that the numbers you cited from Bauer in the Mexican League were from the same year that 41yo Robinson Cano had a 1.100 OPS... he had the 2nd highest OPS in the league that year. 33yo Yasiel Puig was #8 with a 1.020 OPS.

To anyone with common sense that makes Bauer's numbers really unimpressive. And he wasn't even the best pitcher in the league (he was #8 by ERA, #4 by WHIP and #3 by K/BB). He was not as good as 35yo career Mexican Leaguer David Reyes.

But keep telling us about how effective he'd be in the majors

May be helpful for me to point out I have not posted a single word about how he would perform in MLB today.
I advise you to focus on the actual matter under discussion.

[Melville]

He was suspended without pay for 2 seasons.
That is actual loss.
He can also make the claim that he was blackballed from gainful employment after the suspension ended.
And all without cause.

In all states - including 'right to work" states - there are minimum cause thresholds which must be met, and which protect the rights of employees.

I do not pretend to know every aspect of Bauer's behaviors.
Nor am I in any way endorsing his character.
But, there is no question he has strong cause to sue MLB.

100% agree w/ the quoted material.

If you truly believe there was no collusion keeping Bauer out of MLB then you are delusional.

Correct.
He was 8-5 with a 2.59 ERA in 17 starts and led the league in innings and strikeouts the day he was suspended.
After released by the Dodgers, he was forced to look for work in other nations.
In Yokohama Japan in 2023, he went 10-4, with a 2.76 ERA and recorded 130 K's in 130 innings.
in the Mexican League in 2024, he went 10-0, with a 2.48 ERA and recorded 120 K's in 83 innings.
Those results would normally produce a long line of teams offering a contract.
In 2023 and 2024 and 2025 he applied for MLB pitching jobs - and was denied 90 out of 90 times from the opportunity for employment.
He has a very, very strong case against MLB.

and when has MLB lost a collusin case, or any other big-league sport?

The mlb numbers ymfrom that ywar- yes. Those numbers in japan and mexican league- umm no. Theres plenty of pitchers who have had those numbers in japan and not had long list of teams wanting to offer contract. And when have we seen anyone getting contracts from mexican league? Robinson Cano at age 42 is one of the best hitters in that league despite having a .373 ops in mlb at age 39 3 years ago.

Bauer is almost exactly the same age now as Sonny Gray was when he signed his 3 yr 75M dollar contract with the Cardinals.
Prime age for an MLB starter.
Not 42, as Cano is.
Zero question an open market would highly value him right now - but that market has been arbitrarily closed by MLB.
As I recall, Bauer has offered to play for the minimum.
Not one offer.
He has a very compelling case.

We heard someone ask bauer if he would consider playing for league minimum and he said yes hed consider it Thats very different than him actually officially agreeing to it. With the court battles and countersueing he may have went back on that thought.

We dont know what conversations hes had with mlb teams. It was reported in june 2024 that the astros actually witnessed him throw a bullpen session so they were at least agreeing to see him although it never resulted in a contract

So there is agreement on the point under discussion.
Bauer has indicated he would pitch for the minimum, and over the past 2 seasons 60 out of 60 teams have chosen to not even offer that.

[Melville]

Bauer was 17-9 in 2017
Bauer had a 2.21 ERA in 2018
Bauer won the Cy Young in 2020
Bauer had a 2.71 ERA in 2021, before that disgusting woman ruined his life.

Anyone pretending that he wasn't good, wasn't in a dominant period of his career... or that denies he was financially damaged to the tune of well over $100 million, if not $200 million, is so blatantly biased and stupid that they should never be taken seriously again.

He's white that's why he didn't get another chance ....however many others have beat their girlfriend or wife...shot at a gun at them etc...and was playing again...facts suck

lol if u think that’s the reason he’s not playing you aren’t too bright

He’s a bad actor.

Toxic, as Melville would say.

His personality may very well be.
But he was wronged by MLB.

He wasn't wronged. He likes choking women. Then he uses his wealth to win in court.

Law enforcement agencies investigated and declined to prosecute for even a single charge - not even a misdemeanor.
How did Bauer "use his wealth" to "win in court" when there was never a charge?
The only fact established is that his accuser lied repeatedly.
Again, I am not advocating for or against Bauer.
Don't know him.
Not relevant.
MLB rushed to judgement - and could very well face a judgement of their own as a result.