Trevor Bauer on Monday wins in court, he wins on the field why

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Re: Trevor Bauer on Monday wins in court, he wins on the field why

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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 03 Jun 2025 23:34 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 03 Jun 2025 23:28 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 03 Jun 2025 22:10 pm lol how would he have a strong case? They suspended him same as they do a lot of domestic abusers
I assume Melville is alluding to the fact that he was suspended based on fraudulent claims.
That is irrelevant to a suspension for the domestic violence. It wasn’t proven until later it was fraudulent claims so that’s pretty dumb to say in hindsight that that means he has a lawsuit he was suspended based on the intimation at the time which is the policy
How is him being suspended based on fraudulent claims irrelevant when it’s the entire point?
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An Old Friend wrote: 03 Jun 2025 23:38 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 03 Jun 2025 23:34 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 03 Jun 2025 23:28 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 03 Jun 2025 22:10 pm lol how would he have a strong case? They suspended him same as they do a lot of domestic abusers
I assume Melville is alluding to the fact that he was suspended based on fraudulent claims.
That is irrelevant to a suspension for the domestic violence. It wasn’t proven until later it was fraudulent claims so that’s pretty dumb to say in hindsight that that means he has a lawsuit he was suspended based on the intimation at the time which is the policy
How is him being suspended based on fraudulent claims irrelevant when it’s the entire point?
They didn’t know they were fraudulent when they suspended him. Baseball doesn’t wait until there is a trial and conviction to suspend people so zero chance he can win that dumb lawsuit
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Re: Trevor Bauer on Monday wins in court, he wins on the field why

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He would disrupt the clubhouse so No Thanks
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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 03 Jun 2025 23:48 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 03 Jun 2025 23:38 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 03 Jun 2025 23:34 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 03 Jun 2025 23:28 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 03 Jun 2025 22:10 pm lol how would he have a strong case? They suspended him same as they do a lot of domestic abusers
I assume Melville is alluding to the fact that he was suspended based on fraudulent claims.
That is irrelevant to a suspension for the domestic violence. It wasn’t proven until later it was fraudulent claims so that’s pretty dumb to say in hindsight that that means he has a lawsuit he was suspended based on the intimation at the time which is the policy
How is him being suspended based on fraudulent claims irrelevant when it’s the entire point?
They didn’t know they were fraudulent when they suspended him. Baseball doesn’t wait until there is a trial and conviction to suspend people so zero chance he can win that dumb lawsuit
So you agree, then, that he effectively got kicked out of baseball and lost his earning power based on fraudulent claims against him.

That’s literally all that I’m saying, and I think that’s what Melville is referring to.
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An Old Friend wrote: 04 Jun 2025 06:04 am
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 03 Jun 2025 23:48 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 03 Jun 2025 23:38 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 03 Jun 2025 23:34 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 03 Jun 2025 23:28 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 03 Jun 2025 22:10 pm lol how would he have a strong case? They suspended him same as they do a lot of domestic abusers
I assume Melville is alluding to the fact that he was suspended based on fraudulent claims.
That is irrelevant to a suspension for the domestic violence. It wasn’t proven until later it was fraudulent claims so that’s pretty dumb to say in hindsight that that means he has a lawsuit he was suspended based on the intimation at the time which is the policy
How is him being suspended based on fraudulent claims irrelevant when it’s the entire point?
They didn’t know they were fraudulent when they suspended him. Baseball doesn’t wait until there is a trial and conviction to suspend people so zero chance he can win that dumb lawsuit
So you agree, then, that he effectively got kicked out of baseball and lost his earning power based on fraudulent claims against him.

That’s literally all that I’m saying, and I think that’s what Melville is referring to.
Pretty sure it was bc he objectively beat the [shirt] out of a woman, it came out that he regularly does that to get off (which he has never denied), there were multiple allegations and it was a huge public scandal.

The only thing "fraudulent" was the issue of consent, the rest of the above is completely non fraudulent.
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Lloyd Braun wrote: 03 Jun 2025 16:55 pm Bauer was 17-9 in 2017
Bauer had a 2.21 ERA in 2018
Bauer won the Cy Young in 2020
Bauer had a 2.71 ERA in 2021, before that disgusting woman ruined his life.

Anyone pretending that he wasn't good, wasn't in a dominant period of his career... or that denies he was financially damaged to the tune of well over $100 million, if not $200 million, is so blatantly biased and stupid that they should never be taken seriously again.
4.19 era in 2017. He was a solid putcher but that wasnt a fominate year. 2020 and 2021 were very short sample sizes and he had a history of fading.

Was he perhaps in his prime when he got removed? Yes. But now he is unlukely anything more than a 4th 5th starter. His numbers in these overseas arent that impressive in context. Yes he did miss a coupke of what were likely his prime years but that doesnt change who he is now
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Melville wrote: 03 Jun 2025 22:04 pm
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 03 Jun 2025 18:41 pm
Cranny wrote: 03 Jun 2025 17:53 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 03 Jun 2025 17:51 pm
Bushiro wrote: 03 Jun 2025 17:30 pm
Lloyd Braun wrote: 03 Jun 2025 16:55 pm Bauer was 17-9 in 2017
Bauer had a 2.21 ERA in 2018
Bauer won the Cy Young in 2020
Bauer had a 2.71 ERA in 2021, before that disgusting woman ruined his life.

Anyone pretending that he wasn't good, wasn't in a dominant period of his career... or that denies he was financially damaged to the tune of well over $100 million, if not $200 million, is so blatantly biased and stupid that they should never be taken seriously again.
He's white that's why he didn't get another chance ....however many others have beat their girlfriend or wife...shot at a gun at them etc...and was playing again...facts suck
lol if u think that’s the reason he’s not playing you aren’t too bright
He’s a bad actor.
Toxic, as Melville would say.
His personality may very well be.
But he was wronged by MLB.
All of you internet labor lawyers crack me up. MLB is a private enterprise and they can hire, fire, not hire or not fire whoever the hell\l they (bleep) well please. Now sure, if Trevor has some smoking gun that he wasn't hired because he's white, or a Native American, or Jewish, or Muslim, or some other protected class, then he can go hire Brown & Crouppen and after years of litigation maybe he will get somewhere. He doesn't. He's likely been blackballed because he appears to be a ginormous douchnozzle.

Otherwise MLB, like any private company, can do as they please in regard to their employees. Let's say a guy shows up for an exec level type position with any rando big corporation. The corporation, like MLB and any large entity, has serious background checkers along with access to all kinds of info about you and me. And they come to find out that you have been part of some pretty serious and nefarious allegations in the bedroom that may or may not arise to the level of crimes. Doesn't remotely matter if they do or don't. The evidence is out there. Sure our company absolutely wants a C level resource who gets off on rough sex and it's out there for everyone to see. Strike one. Then they find out in your previous couple of jobs, most everyone you work with thought you were a raging (donkey)(pit). Strike two. There are videos out there of public outbursts of you acting like an idiot in your job. Strike three. Thanks for the interview, we will be in touch.

There is not case, no lawsuit, he's not making a dime in a lawsuit.
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An Old Friend wrote: 03 Jun 2025 23:28 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 03 Jun 2025 22:10 pm lol how would he have a strong case? They suspended him same as they do a lot of domestic abusers
I assume Melville is alluding to the fact that he was suspended based on fraudulent claims.
He was banned from making a living in his trade by a capricious, unsubstantiated, and arbitrary order.
He suffered measurable economic harm.
Zero question he has a strong case.
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An Old Friend wrote: 04 Jun 2025 06:04 am
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 03 Jun 2025 23:48 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 03 Jun 2025 23:38 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 03 Jun 2025 23:34 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 03 Jun 2025 23:28 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 03 Jun 2025 22:10 pm lol how would he have a strong case? They suspended him same as they do a lot of domestic abusers
I assume Melville is alluding to the fact that he was suspended based on fraudulent claims.
That is irrelevant to a suspension for the domestic violence. It wasn’t proven until later it was fraudulent claims so that’s pretty dumb to say in hindsight that that means he has a lawsuit he was suspended based on the intimation at the time which is the policy
How is him being suspended based on fraudulent claims irrelevant when it’s the entire point?
They didn’t know they were fraudulent when they suspended him. Baseball doesn’t wait until there is a trial and conviction to suspend people so zero chance he can win that dumb lawsuit
So you agree, then, that he effectively got kicked out of baseball and lost his earning power based on fraudulent claims against him.

That’s literally all that I’m saying, and I think that’s what Melville is referring to.
It would appear he has a wrongful termination claim.
And a collusion claim.
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Melville wrote: 04 Jun 2025 08:09 am
An Old Friend wrote: 03 Jun 2025 23:28 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 03 Jun 2025 22:10 pm lol how would he have a strong case? They suspended him same as they do a lot of domestic abusers
I assume Melville is alluding to the fact that he was suspended based on fraudulent claims.
He was banned from making a living in his trade by a capricious, unsubstantiated, and arbitrary order.
He suffered measurable economic harm.
Zero question he has a strong case.
LOL he was suspended not banned if a team wanted to put up with him he would be in the majors already. He has no case. Him saying boo hoo its not fair is not a case. If it were possible to sue based on the suspension other players who were suspended only to have the cases dropped would be suing but they all signed the domestic violence policy and are held to it
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Lloyd Braun wrote: 03 Jun 2025 16:49 pm Obviously Bauer should be in the MLB, and is far better than most starting pitchers today, despite the very stupid posts in this threat trying to say otherwise.

He has a massive lawsuit that he will win, because MLB has cost him hundreds of millions he would have received, if not for them depriving his earning for no justified reason.

He was falsely accused of something he didn't do. He was vindicated in the courts. Despite being innocent, baseball banned him and has never rectified it.

Hopefully, he wins $200-300 million in his future lawsuit.
Playing Major League Baseball is a privilege.

It is not a right.

He will not win a lawsuit against MLB.
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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 04 Jun 2025 08:13 am
Melville wrote: 04 Jun 2025 08:09 am
An Old Friend wrote: 03 Jun 2025 23:28 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 03 Jun 2025 22:10 pm lol how would he have a strong case? They suspended him same as they do a lot of domestic abusers
I assume Melville is alluding to the fact that he was suspended based on fraudulent claims.
He was banned from making a living in his trade by a capricious, unsubstantiated, and arbitrary order.
He suffered measurable economic harm.
Zero question he has a strong case.
LOL he was suspended not banned if a team wanted to put up with him he would be in the majors already. He has no case. Him saying boo hoo its not fair is not a case. If it were possible to sue based on the suspension other players who were suspended only to have the cases dropped would be suing but they all signed the domestic violence policy and are held to it
He was suspended without pay for 2 seasons.
That is actual loss.
He can also make the claim that he was blackballed from gainful employment after the suspension ended.
And all without cause.
I have employed thousands of people over the course of my career.
I have worked with HR professionals and employment attorneys at the highest level.
In all states - including 'right to work" states - there are minimum cause thresholds which must be met, and which protect the rights of employees.
In 40 years I have never made a termination or suspension error because standards and processes were always meticulously followed.
I do not pretend to know every aspect of Bauer's behaviors.
Nor am I in any way endorsing his character.
But, there is no question he has strong cause to sue MLB.
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Bomber1 wrote: 04 Jun 2025 08:20 am
Lloyd Braun wrote: 03 Jun 2025 16:49 pm Obviously Bauer should be in the MLB, and is far better than most starting pitchers today, despite the very stupid posts in this threat trying to say otherwise.

He has a massive lawsuit that he will win, because MLB has cost him hundreds of millions he would have received, if not for them depriving his earning for no justified reason.

He was falsely accused of something he didn't do. He was vindicated in the courts. Despite being innocent, baseball banned him and has never rectified it.

Hopefully, he wins $200-300 million in his future lawsuit.
Playing Major League Baseball is a privilege.

It is not a right.

He will not win a lawsuit against MLB.
The opportunity to lawfully seek and maintain gainful employment most certainly is a right.
MLB is no exception.
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Melville wrote: 04 Jun 2025 08:36 am He was suspended without pay for 2 seasons.
That is actual loss.
He can also make the claim that he was blackballed from gainful employment after the suspension ended.
And all without cause.

In all states - including 'right to work" states - there are minimum cause thresholds which must be met, and which protect the rights of employees.

I do not pretend to know every aspect of Bauer's behaviors.
Nor am I in any way endorsing his character.
But, there is no question he has strong cause to sue MLB.
100% agree w/ the quoted material.

If you truly believe there was no collusion keeping Bauer out of MLB then you are delusional.
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Basil Shabazz wrote: 04 Jun 2025 08:41 am
Melville wrote: 04 Jun 2025 08:36 am He was suspended without pay for 2 seasons.
That is actual loss.
He can also make the claim that he was blackballed from gainful employment after the suspension ended.
And all without cause.

In all states - including 'right to work" states - there are minimum cause thresholds which must be met, and which protect the rights of employees.

I do not pretend to know every aspect of Bauer's behaviors.
Nor am I in any way endorsing his character.
But, there is no question he has strong cause to sue MLB.
100% agree w/ the quoted material.

If you truly believe there was no collusion keeping Bauer out of MLB then you are delusional.
Correct.
He was 8-5 with a 2.59 ERA in 17 starts and led the league in innings and strikeouts the day he was suspended.
After released by the Dodgers, he was forced to look for work in other nations.
In Yokohama Japan in 2023, he went 10-4, with a 2.76 ERA and recorded 130 K's in 130 innings.
in the Mexican League in 2024, he went 10-0, with a 2.48 ERA and recorded 120 K's in 83 innings.
Those results would normally produce a long line of teams offering a contract.
In 2023 and 2024 and 2025 he applied for MLB pitching jobs - and was denied 90 out of 90 times from the opportunity for employment.
He has a very, very strong case against MLB.
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Who would have thought this is the place where all the employment attorneys hang out?
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