Go for it. Eff the retool

[2ninr]

Imagine spending time on an anonymous forum instructing others how to post...the arrogance is outstanding...perhaps they should mind their own [fork]ing business!

First he ask what eff means, then he keeps bumping it for the multi generations to get more opportunity to see ................... and probably most laugh at.

I just try an appreciate the humor of it all.

You are right. I'm probably being a little hypocritical ragging on Cranny. So how about this. Cranny relax and listen to this song whenever people bother you.

https://youtu.be/xZbKHDPPrrc?si=ggFAXuh_v6yS5NJI

[Cranny]

Imagine spending time on an anonymous forum instructing others how to post...the arrogance is outstanding...perhaps they should mind their own [fork]ing business!

First he ask what eff means, then he keeps bumping it for the multi generations to get more opportunity to see ................... and probably most laugh at.

I just try an appreciate the humor of it all.

You are right. I'm probably being a little hypocritical ragging on Cranny. So how about this. Cranny relax and listen to this song whenever people bother you.

https://youtu.be/xZbKHDPPrrc?si=ggFAXuh_v6yS5NJI

Shucks, 2ninr. I’m just a guy who appreciates very much the PD having a free Cards Talk forum for all Cardinal fans to enjoy ant no cost. And the fact that they also lay out posting rules for the benefit of all. Rules that that are designed keep things friendly and in good taste.

[Banner29]

Imagine spending time on an anonymous forum instructing others how to post...the arrogance is outstanding...perhaps they should mind their own [fork]ing business!

First he ask what eff means, then he keeps bumping it for the multi generations to get more opportunity to see ................... and probably most laugh at.

I just try an appreciate the humor of it all.

You are right. I'm probably being a little hypocritical ragging on Cranny. So how about this. Cranny relax and listen to this song whenever people bother you.

https://youtu.be/xZbKHDPPrrc?si=ggFAXuh_v6yS5NJI

Shucks, 2ninr. I’m just a guy who appreciates very much the PD having a free Cards Talk forum for all Cardinal fans to enjoy ant no cost. And the fact that they also lay out posting rules for the benefit of all. Rules that that are designed keep things friendly and in good taste.

Shut the eff up

[2ninr]

Imagine spending time on an anonymous forum instructing others how to post...the arrogance is outstanding...perhaps they should mind their own [fork]ing business!

First he ask what eff means, then he keeps bumping it for the multi generations to get more opportunity to see ................... and probably most laugh at.

I just try an appreciate the humor of it all.

You are right. I'm probably being a little hypocritical ragging on Cranny. So how about this. Cranny relax and listen to this song whenever people bother you.

https://youtu.be/xZbKHDPPrrc?si=ggFAXuh_v6yS5NJI

Shucks, 2ninr. I’m just a guy who appreciates very much the PD having a free Cards Talk forum for all Cardinal fans to enjoy ant no cost. And the fact that they also lay out posting rules for the benefit of all. Rules that that are designed keep things friendly and in good taste.

Just for the record Cranny, I had a major crush on DD when I was a boy.

[Cranny]

Imagine spending time on an anonymous forum instructing others how to post...the arrogance is outstanding...perhaps they should mind their own [fork]ing business!

First he ask what eff means, then he keeps bumping it for the multi generations to get more opportunity to see ................... and probably most laugh at.

I just try an appreciate the humor of it all.

You are right. I'm probably being a little hypocritical ragging on Cranny. So how about this. Cranny relax and listen to this song whenever people bother you.

https://youtu.be/xZbKHDPPrrc?si=ggFAXuh_v6yS5NJI

Shucks, 2ninr. I’m just a guy who appreciates very much the PD having a free Cards Talk forum for all Cardinal fans to enjoy ant no cost. And the fact that they also lay out posting rules for the benefit of all. Rules that that are designed keep things friendly and in good taste.

Shut the eff up

That’s highly mature, Banner. LOL. Grow up.

[JohnnyMO]

Imagine spending time on an anonymous forum instructing others how to post...the arrogance is outstanding...perhaps they should mind their own [fork]ing business!

First he ask what eff means, then he keeps bumping it for the multi generations to get more opportunity to see ................... and probably most laugh at.

I just try an appreciate the humor of it all.

You are right. I'm probably being a little hypocritical ragging on Cranny. So how about this. Cranny relax and listen to this song whenever people bother you.

https://youtu.be/xZbKHDPPrrc?si=ggFAXuh_v6yS5NJI

Shucks, 2ninr. I’m just a guy who appreciates very much the PD having a free Cards Talk forum for all Cardinal fans to enjoy ant no cost. And the fact that they also lay out posting rules for the benefit of all. Rules that that are designed keep things friendly and in good taste.

Shut the eff up

That’s highly mature, Banner. LOL. Grow up.

No one likes a hall monitor. Why can’t you let the forum moderators do the moderating and save the constant high horse?

[AnExParrot]

Imagine spending time on an anonymous forum instructing others how to post...the arrogance is outstanding...perhaps they should mind their own [fork]ing business!

First he ask what eff means, then he keeps bumping it for the multi generations to get more opportunity to see ................... and probably most laugh at.

I just try an appreciate the humor of it all.

You are right. I'm probably being a little hypocritical ragging on Cranny. So how about this. Cranny relax and listen to this song whenever people bother you.

https://youtu.be/xZbKHDPPrrc?si=ggFAXuh_v6yS5NJI

Shucks, 2ninr. I’m just a guy who appreciates very much the PD having a free Cards Talk forum for all Cardinal fans to enjoy ant no cost. And the fact that they also lay out posting rules for the benefit of all. Rules that that are designed keep things friendly and in good taste.

Then report the use of "eff" to the moderators and see if they'll enforce these rule(s) you're touting. There's been profanity in this forum since I started coming here in '04, but you still keep coming here to, what, verify this free forum disagrees with you regarding the use of profanity on it's forum?

Yup, they still don't care, and you're still doing this stupid effing [stuff].

[WLTFE]

Imagine spending time on an anonymous forum instructing others how to post...the arrogance is outstanding...perhaps they should mind their own [fork]ing business!

First he ask what eff means, then he keeps bumping it for the multi generations to get more opportunity to see ................... and probably most laugh at.

I just try an appreciate the humor of it all.

You are right. I'm probably being a little hypocritical ragging on Cranny. So how about this. Cranny relax and listen to this song whenever people bother you.

https://youtu.be/xZbKHDPPrrc?si=ggFAXuh_v6yS5NJI

Shucks, 2ninr. I’m just a guy who appreciates very much the PD having a free Cards Talk forum for all Cardinal fans to enjoy ant no cost. And the fact that they also lay out posting rules for the benefit of all. Rules that that are designed keep things friendly and in good taste.

Then report the use of "eff" to the moderators and see if they'll enforce these rule(s) you're touting. There's been profanity in this forum since I started coming here in '04, but you still keep coming here to, what, verify this free forum disagrees with you regarding the use of profanity on it's forum?

Yup, they still don't care, and you're still doing this stupid effing [stuff].

The language issue is silly...the site gives people the ability to censor words so they won't be offended...I'm assuming anyone who is constantly offended should either stop coming to the thread or quit (bleep).

[Cranny]

Imagine spending time on an anonymous forum instructing others how to post...the arrogance is outstanding...perhaps they should mind their own [fork]ing business!

First he ask what eff means, then he keeps bumping it for the multi generations to get more opportunity to see ................... and probably most laugh at.

I just try an appreciate the humor of it all.

You are right. I'm probably being a little hypocritical ragging on Cranny. So how about this. Cranny relax and listen to this song whenever people bother you.

https://youtu.be/xZbKHDPPrrc?si=ggFAXuh_v6yS5NJI

Shucks, 2ninr. I’m just a guy who appreciates very much the PD having a free Cards Talk forum for all Cardinal fans to enjoy ant no cost. And the fact that they also lay out posting rules for the benefit of all. Rules that that are designed keep things friendly and in good taste.

Shut the eff up

That’s highly mature, Banner. LOL. Grow up.

No one likes a hall monitor. Why can’t you let the forum moderators do the moderating and save the constant high horse?

Let me ask you a question, Johnny. It someone bashes you in you face, do you run to others for help?

[Absolut]

Imagine spending time on an anonymous forum instructing others how to post...the arrogance is outstanding...perhaps they should mind their own [fork]ing business!

First he ask what eff means, then he keeps bumping it for the multi generations to get more opportunity to see ................... and probably most laugh at.

I just try an appreciate the humor of it all.

You are right. I'm probably being a little hypocritical ragging on Cranny. So how about this. Cranny relax and listen to this song whenever people bother you.

https://youtu.be/xZbKHDPPrrc?si=ggFAXuh_v6yS5NJI

Shucks, 2ninr. I’m just a guy who appreciates very much the PD having a free Cards Talk forum for all Cardinal fans to enjoy ant no cost. And the fact that they also lay out posting rules for the benefit of all. Rules that that are designed keep things friendly and in good taste.

Just for the record Cranny, I had a major crush on DD when I was a boy.

[Absolut]

Imagine spending time on an anonymous forum instructing others how to post...the arrogance is outstanding...perhaps they should mind their own [fork]ing business!

First he ask what eff means, then he keeps bumping it for the multi generations to get more opportunity to see ................... and probably most laugh at.

I just try an appreciate the humor of it all.

You are right. I'm probably being a little hypocritical ragging on Cranny. So how about this. Cranny relax and listen to this song whenever people bother you.

https://youtu.be/xZbKHDPPrrc?si=ggFAXuh_v6yS5NJI

Shucks, 2ninr. I’m just a guy who appreciates very much the PD having a free Cards Talk forum for all Cardinal fans to enjoy ant no cost. And the fact that they also lay out posting rules for the benefit of all. Rules that that are designed keep things friendly and in good taste.

Shut the eff up

That’s highly mature, Banner. LOL. Grow up.

No one likes a hall monitor. Why can’t you let the forum moderators do the moderating and save the constant high horse?

Let me ask you a question, Johnny. It someone bashes you in you face, do you run to others for help?

Generally id punch back.


Let me ask you a question, Cranny. Do you get punched in the face a lot?

[AnExParrot]

Imagine spending time on an anonymous forum instructing others how to post...the arrogance is outstanding...perhaps they should mind their own [fork]ing business!

First he ask what eff means, then he keeps bumping it for the multi generations to get more opportunity to see ................... and probably most laugh at.

I just try an appreciate the humor of it all.

You are right. I'm probably being a little hypocritical ragging on Cranny. So how about this. Cranny relax and listen to this song whenever people bother you.

https://youtu.be/xZbKHDPPrrc?si=ggFAXuh_v6yS5NJI

Shucks, 2ninr. I’m just a guy who appreciates very much the PD having a free Cards Talk forum for all Cardinal fans to enjoy ant no cost. And the fact that they also lay out posting rules for the benefit of all. Rules that that are designed keep things friendly and in good taste.

Shut the eff up

That’s highly mature, Banner. LOL. Grow up.

No one likes a hall monitor. Why can’t you let the forum moderators do the moderating and save the constant high horse?

Let me ask you a question, Johnny. It someone bashes you in you face, do you run to others for help?

What do being bashed in face and reading the word "eff" have in common? Nothing.

[ClassicO]

If a respectable return presents itself, I’d still move Helsley regardless of the standings.

The CORRECT BASBEBALL DECISION is to extend Helsley for another 4 years sometime in the next 30 days.

Assumes a lot.
Hensley has to agree to only one offer without fielding others in free agency.
His agent will advise him to forego free agency.
The Cardinals, who have long absolutely butchered the signing of higher-end free agent relievers, will spend a huge amount of money on a reliever despite multiple options in the system (Roby, Hence, Graceffo, Granillo, etc.).
And most of all, you’ve advised doing it and you’re always wrong.

[WLTFE]

Effing big win!...censored for the grannies.

[thetank2]

If a respectable return presents itself, I’d still move Helsley regardless of the standings.

The CORRECT BASBEBALL DECISION is to extend Helsley for another 4 years sometime in the next 30 days.

Assumes a lot.
Hensley has to agree to only one offer without fielding others in free agency.
His agent will advise him to forego free agency.
The Cardinals, who have long absolutely butchered the signing of higher-end free agent relievers, will spend a huge amount of money on a reliever despite multiple options in the system (Roby, Hence, Graceffo, Granillo, etc.).2
And most of all, you’ve advised doing it and you’re always wrong.

Butchered what exactly? Just throw it out there?

[Bushiro]

IF the Cardinals are still in contention as we near the end of the trading deadline, then the ONLY one I'd definitely try to move is M. Mikolas.

Why if Mikolas is pitching well?

1) Because if he's pitching well the free-agent-to-be, who the Cardinals aren't re-signing, could actually bring back a decent prospect something unthinkable given his horrid 2023/2024.

and

2) M. McGreevy is sitting on the tarmac in Memphis where's he's pitching well and has been nothing but outstanding when handed the ball in St. Louis

I think the return for E. Fedde, unless he's pitching really well, would be minimal and the same for S. Matz.

They might be more valuable here if the Cardinals are making a run at the NLC or a WC slot.

There is no replacement for R. Helsley.

Dealing him 100% signals BDWJr is running up the white flag, I also question what the return would be.

NADO (NTC) most likely not going anywhere unless the Dodgers come calling.

JMO

The return last year for Tanner Scott (who is not as good as Ryan Helsley) was San Diego's #2, #4, #5, and #24 prospects. The #2 prospect was starting pitcher Robby Snelling who was the #44 overall prospect in MLB at the time. The return for Helsely might no be identical, but the market for closers is really good this year and he is the best one available. Why do we assume that we can't get a good return?

Helsley also has a well known injury history that MAY limit the return.

And his 2025 peripherals are down (strikeout rate, ect...) while his walk rate is up but his velo is still elite.

And we all know AJ Preller is a MORON, so if you could get him to do that again for Helsley.....then h e l l yes!

The Phillies would be the team to target given J. Alvardo's PED suspension but not sure what they'd offer.

Understand, IF the Cardinals are well behind the scrubbies and WC leaders, then I'm all for selling off Helsley, Fedde, Matz and Mikolas is he'd waive the NTC, NADO too for whatever you can get rather than see the FA's to be just walk.

If they were to deal Helsley, I think you look at Dodgers or Phillies. Not sure if they’d deal him, but Mick Abel is interesting on the Phillies. He fell off of top 100 lists after last season, but he’s bounced back huge this year.

Wonder if Dodgers would be interested in Nado+Helsley.

Trade Helsley then go get fairbanks...have him this year and next year...