Nobody is going to trade for these highly suspect piles of garbage and give you squat right now, or ever. They know they suck and it's a Matzer of time before he goes ILrockondlouie wrote: ↑04 May 2025 11:38 amAgain, that's why your trade him ASAP moran.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑04 May 2025 11:36 amHoly [fork], Matz has pitched 24 innings. He did 44 last year. LMAO. It's May! He'll get injured soon...rockondlouie wrote: ↑04 May 2025 11:34 amWhich is why you shop him ASAP.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑04 May 2025 11:31 amHealthy...it's Mayrockondlouie wrote: ↑04 May 2025 08:58 am Mikolas has to waive the NTC, perhaps he will knowing the Cardinals aren't going to give him a new contract?
Matz should be in HIGH demand since he's been healthy and very good at both spot starting and especially as a LHRP (hello Mets?).
Mo needs to get off his lazy a z z and start marketing these two (if Mikolas agrees to waive) along w/Helsley (DBacks?) and Fedde.![]()
BUT
Isn't it amazing how these guys stay healthy and pitch well (re: Meatman Mikolas, even P. Corbin and a healthy Matz) when they're in their walk season and seeking a new contract after the season?![]()
LETS GO BLUES!
Mik and Matz will bring a haul.
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I’m counting on a team that is a bit desperate, thus a low level high upside prospect plus shed salary to buy in off season.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑04 May 2025 11:34 amExactly!Red7 wrote: ↑04 May 2025 10:57 am See what meth and legalized pot has wrought? You’re not getting top level prospects AND shedding money. You’re not even getting top level prospects if the team ate ALL the money. Gray and Contreras have the most value and they’ve already said they’re not waiving their NTC’s. Next comes Helsley and Fedde. If they perform as the did in 2024, their return will be very good. However, those deals are months off. If Matz stays healthy and effective, he’ll net a prospect or two, but nothing top shelf. Mikolas will get us Drew Rom.
If I'm a fan and the Cards were in contention...and your front office gave up a top prospect for Matz and/or Lizard Puke...you'd be livid!
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Sure they will, you're underestimating their willingness to "roll the dice" on players in their final contract year.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑04 May 2025 11:41 amNobody is going to trade for these highly suspect piles of garbage and give you squat right now, or ever. They know they suck and it's a Matzer of time before he goes ILrockondlouie wrote: ↑04 May 2025 11:38 amAgain, that's why your trade him ASAP moran.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑04 May 2025 11:36 amHoly [fork], Matz has pitched 24 innings. He did 44 last year. LMAO. It's May! He'll get injured soon...rockondlouie wrote: ↑04 May 2025 11:34 amWhich is why you shop him ASAP.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑04 May 2025 11:31 amHealthy...it's Mayrockondlouie wrote: ↑04 May 2025 08:58 am Mikolas has to waive the NTC, perhaps he will knowing the Cardinals aren't going to give him a new contract?
Matz should be in HIGH demand since he's been healthy and very good at both spot starting and especially as a LHRP (hello Mets?).
Mo needs to get off his lazy a z z and start marketing these two (if Mikolas agrees to waive) along w/Helsley (DBacks?) and Fedde.![]()
BUT
Isn't it amazing how these guys stay healthy and pitch well (re: Meatman Mikolas, even P. Corbin and a healthy Matz) when they're in their walk season and seeking a new contract after the season?![]()
LETS GO BLUES!
LETS GO BLUES!
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Nobody is that desperate in May, 33 games in...sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑04 May 2025 11:42 amI’m counting on a team that is a bit desperate, thus a low level high upside prospect plus shed salary to buy in off season.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑04 May 2025 11:34 amExactly!Red7 wrote: ↑04 May 2025 10:57 am See what meth and legalized pot has wrought? You’re not getting top level prospects AND shedding money. You’re not even getting top level prospects if the team ate ALL the money. Gray and Contreras have the most value and they’ve already said they’re not waiving their NTC’s. Next comes Helsley and Fedde. If they perform as the did in 2024, their return will be very good. However, those deals are months off. If Matz stays healthy and effective, he’ll net a prospect or two, but nothing top shelf. Mikolas will get us Drew Rom.
If I'm a fan and the Cards were in contention...and your front office gave up a top prospect for Matz and/or Lizard Puke...you'd be livid!
But may the 4th be with you old Padawan

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33 games in????!!!rockondlouie wrote: ↑04 May 2025 11:43 amSure they will, you're underestimating their willingness to "roll the dice" on players in their final contract year.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑04 May 2025 11:41 amNobody is going to trade for these highly suspect piles of garbage and give you squat right now, or ever. They know they suck and it's a Matzer of time before he goes ILrockondlouie wrote: ↑04 May 2025 11:38 amAgain, that's why your trade him ASAP moran.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑04 May 2025 11:36 amHoly [fork], Matz has pitched 24 innings. He did 44 last year. LMAO. It's May! He'll get injured soon...rockondlouie wrote: ↑04 May 2025 11:34 amWhich is why you shop him ASAP.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑04 May 2025 11:31 amHealthy...it's Mayrockondlouie wrote: ↑04 May 2025 08:58 am Mikolas has to waive the NTC, perhaps he will knowing the Cardinals aren't going to give him a new contract?
Matz should be in HIGH demand since he's been healthy and very good at both spot starting and especially as a LHRP (hello Mets?).
Mo needs to get off his lazy a z z and start marketing these two (if Mikolas agrees to waive) along w/Helsley (DBacks?) and Fedde.![]()
BUT
Isn't it amazing how these guys stay healthy and pitch well (re: Meatman Mikolas, even P. Corbin and a healthy Matz) when they're in their walk season and seeking a new contract after the season?![]()
LETS GO BLUES!
LETS GO BLUES!

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Good deal, enjoyscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑04 May 2025 11:58 am33 games in????!!!rockondlouie wrote: ↑04 May 2025 11:43 amSure they will, you're underestimating their willingness to "roll the dice" on players in their final contract year.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑04 May 2025 11:41 amNobody is going to trade for these highly suspect piles of garbage and give you squat right now, or ever. They know they suck and it's a Matzer of time before he goes ILrockondlouie wrote: ↑04 May 2025 11:38 amAgain, that's why your trade him ASAP moran.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑04 May 2025 11:36 amHoly [fork], Matz has pitched 24 innings. He did 44 last year. LMAO. It's May! He'll get injured soon...rockondlouie wrote: ↑04 May 2025 11:34 amWhich is why you shop him ASAP.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑04 May 2025 11:31 amHealthy...it's Mayrockondlouie wrote: ↑04 May 2025 08:58 am Mikolas has to waive the NTC, perhaps he will knowing the Cardinals aren't going to give him a new contract?
Matz should be in HIGH demand since he's been healthy and very good at both spot starting and especially as a LHRP (hello Mets?).
Mo needs to get off his lazy a z z and start marketing these two (if Mikolas agrees to waive) along w/Helsley (DBacks?) and Fedde.![]()
BUT
Isn't it amazing how these guys stay healthy and pitch well (re: Meatman Mikolas, even P. Corbin and a healthy Matz) when they're in their walk season and seeking a new contract after the season?![]()
LETS GO BLUES!
LETS GO BLUES!
I might go to the bar to watch the Blues v Jets
We need some Penguin Power from you to win Game 7.
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Not gonna give itrockondlouie wrote: ↑04 May 2025 12:06 pmGood deal, enjoyscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑04 May 2025 11:58 am33 games in????!!!rockondlouie wrote: ↑04 May 2025 11:43 amSure they will, you're underestimating their willingness to "roll the dice" on players in their final contract year.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑04 May 2025 11:41 amNobody is going to trade for these highly suspect piles of garbage and give you squat right now, or ever. They know they suck and it's a Matzer of time before he goes ILrockondlouie wrote: ↑04 May 2025 11:38 amAgain, that's why your trade him ASAP moran.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑04 May 2025 11:36 amHoly [fork], Matz has pitched 24 innings. He did 44 last year. LMAO. It's May! He'll get injured soon...rockondlouie wrote: ↑04 May 2025 11:34 amWhich is why you shop him ASAP.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑04 May 2025 11:31 amHealthy...it's Mayrockondlouie wrote: ↑04 May 2025 08:58 am Mikolas has to waive the NTC, perhaps he will knowing the Cardinals aren't going to give him a new contract?
Matz should be in HIGH demand since he's been healthy and very good at both spot starting and especially as a LHRP (hello Mets?).
Mo needs to get off his lazy a z z and start marketing these two (if Mikolas agrees to waive) along w/Helsley (DBacks?) and Fedde.![]()
BUT
Isn't it amazing how these guys stay healthy and pitch well (re: Meatman Mikolas, even P. Corbin and a healthy Matz) when they're in their walk season and seeking a new contract after the season?![]()
LETS GO BLUES!
LETS GO BLUES!
I might go to the bar to watch the Blues v Jets
We need some Penguin Power from you to win Game 7.


Re: Mik and Matz will bring a haul.
So is this is why I watch games? To see if any of these guys have trade value in July?
Well why just limit the talk to Matz, Mikolas, Fedde, Nado and Helsley. Add Gorman, Walker, Burleson, pick a cathcher and blow the whole thing up.
Who doesn't have a no-trade contract and is untouchable at the deadline?
Keep Scott, Noot, Donovan, Winn, Liberatore, Leahy. Contreras and Gray have NT's. Who else has to stay?
Well why just limit the talk to Matz, Mikolas, Fedde, Nado and Helsley. Add Gorman, Walker, Burleson, pick a cathcher and blow the whole thing up.
Who doesn't have a no-trade contract and is untouchable at the deadline?
Keep Scott, Noot, Donovan, Winn, Liberatore, Leahy. Contreras and Gray have NT's. Who else has to stay?
Re: Mik and Matz will bring a haul.
They've got to maintain it for nearly 3 more months (and not get hurt) before trading season opens.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑04 May 2025 08:21 amBlinded by the light. Mik last four games 5.1 IP 4.25 hits 1.5 BB that would work on a good team.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑04 May 2025 08:18 am Step out of the shed. Lizard King and Matz are not bringing a haul.
Matz is a coveted lefty. On contract year. [shirt] don’t hurt as bad.
Haul- top level prospects to support the reset. Bonus- bye bye 30M hello stud in off season.
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Fill the old saddle bags Tray.Midrange Jay wrote: ↑04 May 2025 09:02 amThey each make $15 million. We might get a low level prospect for each, but think of the money Dewitt can save.