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Re: Anyone disappointed in Broberg thus far?

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theograce wrote: 22 Apr 2025 13:47 pm
callitwhatyouwant wrote: 22 Apr 2025 13:43 pm Anyways, the Broberg complaints are silly.
Down to 14 mins of ES time. Yeah it’s silly to assess players. The Blues aren’t …
So he got worse when he was paired with Faulk by the Blues? Because he sure was good in last years Finals and then he started this year on fire 20+ min a night, gets hurt come back and gets paired with Faulkner and is now worse at 23??? Makes zero sense
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Harry S Deals wrote: 22 Apr 2025 19:49 pm
theograce wrote: 22 Apr 2025 13:47 pm
callitwhatyouwant wrote: 22 Apr 2025 13:43 pm Anyways, the Broberg complaints are silly.
Down to 14 mins of ES time. Yeah it’s silly to assess players. The Blues aren’t …
So he got worse when he was paired with Faulk by the Blues? Because he sure was good in last years Finals and then he started this year on fire 20+ min a night, gets hurt come back and gets paired with Faulkner and is now worse at 23??? Makes zero sense
It’s a faster different game now. It’s not about getting worse … it’s about being able to adjust and match. Why is hive down? It’s the currency among players and coaches
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theograce wrote: 22 Apr 2025 20:21 pm
Harry S Deals wrote: 22 Apr 2025 19:49 pm
theograce wrote: 22 Apr 2025 13:47 pm
callitwhatyouwant wrote: 22 Apr 2025 13:43 pm Anyways, the Broberg complaints are silly.
Down to 14 mins of ES time. Yeah it’s silly to assess players. The Blues aren’t …
So he got worse when he was paired with Faulk by the Blues? Because he sure was good in last years Finals and then he started this year on fire 20+ min a night, gets hurt come back and gets paired with Faulkner and is now worse at 23??? Makes zero sense
It’s a faster different game now. It’s not about getting worse … it’s about being able to adjust and match. Why is hive down? It’s the currency among players and coaches
It's faster than the Finals last year? The issue with Broberg is he's stuck with Faulk he's played fine. He's a bit inexperienced but we've seen him play very well already so the potential is obvious
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Re: Anyone disappointed in Broberg thus far?

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Harry S Deals wrote: 22 Apr 2025 20:44 pm
theograce wrote: 22 Apr 2025 20:21 pm
Harry S Deals wrote: 22 Apr 2025 19:49 pm
theograce wrote: 22 Apr 2025 13:47 pm
callitwhatyouwant wrote: 22 Apr 2025 13:43 pm Anyways, the Broberg complaints are silly.
Down to 14 mins of ES time. Yeah it’s silly to assess players. The Blues aren’t …
So he got worse when he was paired with Faulk by the Blues? Because he sure was good in last years Finals and then he started this year on fire 20+ min a night, gets hurt come back and gets paired with Faulkner and is now worse at 23??? Makes zero sense
It’s a faster different game now. It’s not about getting worse … it’s about being able to adjust and match. Why is hive down? It’s the currency among players and coaches
It's faster than the Finals last year? The issue with Broberg is he's stuck with Faulk he's played fine. He's a bit inexperienced but we've seen him play very well already so the potential is obvious
He wasn’t some phenom last year. He scored a couple goals. Does it bug you that I would have liked to see a bit more development? He plays soft and weak right now. 14 mins at ES last game.

I mean check your bias. You were talking about him being the best dman since Pronger…pretty clear there’s an agenda there
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Re: Anyone disappointed in Broberg thus far?

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theograce wrote: 22 Apr 2025 20:52 pm
Harry S Deals wrote: 22 Apr 2025 20:44 pm
theograce wrote: 22 Apr 2025 20:21 pm
Harry S Deals wrote: 22 Apr 2025 19:49 pm
theograce wrote: 22 Apr 2025 13:47 pm
callitwhatyouwant wrote: 22 Apr 2025 13:43 pm Anyways, the Broberg complaints are silly.
Down to 14 mins of ES time. Yeah it’s silly to assess players. The Blues aren’t …
So he got worse when he was paired with Faulk by the Blues? Because he sure was good in last years Finals and then he started this year on fire 20+ min a night, gets hurt come back and gets paired with Faulkner and is now worse at 23??? Makes zero sense
It’s a faster different game now. It’s not about getting worse … it’s about being able to adjust and match. Why is hive down? It’s the currency among players and coaches
It's faster than the Finals last year? The issue with Broberg is he's stuck with Faulk he's played fine. He's a bit inexperienced but we've seen him play very well already so the potential is obvious
He wasn’t some phenom last year. He scored a couple goals. Does it bug you that I would have liked to see a bit more development? He plays soft and weak right now. 14 mins at ES last game.

I mean check your bias. You were talking about him being the best dman since Pronger…pretty clear there’s an agenda there
I thought you had a thing for finesse defenseman
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Harry S Deals wrote: 23 Apr 2025 04:51 am
theograce wrote: 22 Apr 2025 20:52 pm He wasn’t some phenom last year. He scored a couple goals. Does it bug you that I would have liked to see a bit more development? He plays soft and weak right now. 14 mins at ES last game.

I mean check your bias. You were talking about him being the best dman since Pronger…pretty clear there’s an agenda there
I thought you had a thing for finesse defenseman
lol

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Re: Anyone disappointed in Broberg thus far?

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Yep

68GP 8g 21as 29 pts +21 20:30 this kid is going to be very very good for STL. This stat line while being stuck with the boat anchor that is Faulk, best young dman since Pronger. You betcha i'll be right here to remind you next season
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seattleblue wrote: 22 Apr 2025 11:33 am
theograce wrote: 22 Apr 2025 11:21 am
seattleblue wrote: 22 Apr 2025 11:13 am If I felt about him like "future #1LHD STUD" then I would be, but I never put my expectations there.
Mine aren’t either. Just really soft whether he’s a 2 or 4. His outlet passes have been pretty bad as well
He's got to go through playoff iteration not just with a McDavid team (where his transition play can shine more) but with a Blues team as currently constructed. The list of younger core players who have the ability to play better has more than Broberg on it. I'm agreeing he's not been the assertive, silky attacking player we've seen prior glimpses of, but we also saw the variation within the season.

Good topic though, fair for discussion.

What do you think of the possibility of adding a piece somewhere along the way the way the Bruins added Lindholm a few years ago? I completely share the frustration of NMC unwillingness and acknowledge the flaw in this mention is Lindholm got in Boston what he wouldn't here. But maybe they can acquire a player still in RFA mode. They kinda have to go this route now, right? If it were up to you, who would you make available and who would you target?

That question is for anyone by the way.


:D :lol: :lol: :x :P :D The troll is talking to himself :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Aesa wrote: 22 Apr 2025 12:36 pm
blackinkbiz wrote: 22 Apr 2025 12:32 pm
DawgDad wrote: 22 Apr 2025 12:28 pm
theograce wrote: 22 Apr 2025 12:16 pm
DawgDad wrote: 22 Apr 2025 12:09 pm Again, you're picking on two players now WHO ARE NOT THE REASON THEY ARE DOWN 2-0. Where is common sense?
No single player is responsible for being down.

It’s not helpful. You sound emotional … you’re yelling about it.
No. I'm emphasizing the nonsense of your posts. Helpful? What exactly is this thread "helping"? It's a blog! None of us can "help" anything about this series.
In terms of understanding what is happening, are you "helping" when I have to point out that you're questioning the play of one of the best players on the ice at even strength?
We have some of the most bi-polar trolls in the NHL. They went from loathing the team and Army all season to hopping on the bandwagon and now that the young Blues have lost the straw that stirs the drink and are losing to the best team of the regular season, here we go again. lol
Fear not old friend. If the Blues do not win the Cup, they will jump off the wagon and revert back to their old ways. It is more certain than the sunrise in the east.

Yep this has gone on all season here

Circumstances change but its the same old tune

"Disappointing" for a young player who is key to their success
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Re: Anyone disappointed in Broberg thus far?

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Lloyd Braun wrote: 23 Apr 2025 08:00 am
seattleblue wrote: 22 Apr 2025 11:33 am
theograce wrote: 22 Apr 2025 11:21 am
seattleblue wrote: 22 Apr 2025 11:13 am If I felt about him like "future #1LHD STUD" then I would be, but I never put my expectations there.
Mine aren’t either. Just really soft whether he’s a 2 or 4. His outlet passes have been pretty bad as well
He's got to go through playoff iteration not just with a McDavid team (where his transition play can shine more) but with a Blues team as currently constructed. The list of younger core players who have the ability to play better has more than Broberg on it. I'm agreeing he's not been the assertive, silky attacking player we've seen prior glimpses of, but we also saw the variation within the season.

Good topic though, fair for discussion.

What do you think of the possibility of adding a piece somewhere along the way the way the Bruins added Lindholm a few years ago? I completely share the frustration of NMC unwillingness and acknowledge the flaw in this mention is Lindholm got in Boston what he wouldn't here. But maybe they can acquire a player still in RFA mode. They kinda have to go this route now, right? If it were up to you, who would you make available and who would you target?

That question is for anyone by the way.


:D :lol: :lol: :x :P :D The troll is talking to himself :lol: :lol: :lol:
If you're still stating I'm a troll and I'm bleeder you are seriously dumb as a turd. Like instead of where your brain is, it's a turd!

(you inherited poop from mom and poop from dad and they shat in your dumb head!)
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Re: Anyone disappointed in Broberg thus far?

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Dude played more minutes in more games at a higher level than he ever has before. It could be that he's wearing down a bit and, if so, will be a good opportunity to make adjustments to his conditioning.

So no, definitely not disappointed.
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He's Terrible" Rhett Goes OFF On Oilers Defenseman Evan Bouchard

https://youtu.be/Ko1vPud6x6U?si=-k18Y0-OjEaSpp99

Pretty sure Edmonton would love to have Broberg back.
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sdaltons wrote: 23 Apr 2025 09:38 am Dude played more minutes in more games at a higher level than he ever has before. It could be that he's wearing down a bit and, if so, will be a good opportunity to make adjustments to his conditioning.

So no, definitely not disappointed.
2012-2013 (23 yrs old) Pietrangelo xGoals .17 Goals per 60 = .14
2024-2025 (23 yrs old) Broberg xGoals .21 Goals per 60 = .34

Again time will tell its very hard to compare two different dmen (quality of roster, quality of d partners, etc) but Im seeing Broberg become a very nice LHD likely top pair 35-50pt guy for the Blues
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Harry S Deals wrote: 23 Apr 2025 07:53 am Yep

best young dman since Pronger.
Dunn was even better and/or comparable at his age guy.

That’s funny
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Pronger was not just a #1 defenseman but one of the best the game has ever seen.
Broberg is not a #1 defenseman. If you expect him to be then yes you'd have to acknowledge he falls far far short of being a #1 right now.
You can project confidence that he's going to be but it's speculation, it could go plenty of ways.
When Pronger was Broberg's current age it was 97-98 and Pronger was averaging 25 min a game.
When Pietrangelo was Broberg's current age he was averaging over 26 min a game.
When Pietrangelo was in his first full year 09-10 he was at 22 min a game.
Broberg is still a really good young defenseman who I'm glad we have. He's around 20 min on avg.
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seattleblue wrote: 23 Apr 2025 11:33 am Pronger was not just a #1 defenseman but one of the best the game has ever seen.
Broberg is not a #1 defenseman. If you expect him to be then yes you'd have to acknowledge he falls far far short of being a #1 right now.
You can project confidence that he's going to be but it's speculation, it could go plenty of ways.
When Pronger was Broberg's current age it was 97-98 and Pronger was averaging 25 min a game.
When Pietrangelo was Broberg's current age he was averaging over 26 min a game.
When Pietrangelo was in his first full year 09-10 he was at 22 min a game.
Broberg is still a really good young defenseman who I'm glad we have. He's around 20 min on avg.
Pietrangelo was playing 26-30 mins some nights in playoffs at Broberg’s age. He’s a HOFer.

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