Which spring troubles are you bothered by the most?

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Re: Which spring troubles are you bothered by the most?

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Goldfan wrote: 22 Mar 2025 16:53 pm
Cranny wrote: 22 Mar 2025 08:59 am
Idaho Cards wrote: 22 Mar 2025 01:57 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 22:23 pm None. Spring Training means nothing.
Mr Cranny - I respect you because you are a true Cardinal fan and you always stand up for TEAM; but do you see the lack of baseball leadership in this front office's message?
The front office has brought us a lot of success over the years. It’s now changing to a younger regime.
Looking forward to it.
This team doesn’t know how to win. There’s no urgency to win from the Owner…..FO……and manager is a an idiot. The team has no winning leaders sans perhaps Contreras has a bat and some fire. Given this where do you think this team actually goes??? You must see the missing pieces so prevalent in the teams you always refer to as “ MO’s Winning Year”……none of what attributed to those years are in place now and BDW seems either indifferent or incapable to bring those key factors back.
BDW has upgraded the development program. Glad to see it. Looking forward to following the young players under the new regime.
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Re: Which spring troubles are you bothered by the most?

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Cranny wrote: 22 Mar 2025 17:21 pm
Goldfan wrote: 22 Mar 2025 16:53 pm
Cranny wrote: 22 Mar 2025 08:59 am
Idaho Cards wrote: 22 Mar 2025 01:57 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 22:23 pm None. Spring Training means nothing.
Mr Cranny - I respect you because you are a true Cardinal fan and you always stand up for TEAM; but do you see the lack of baseball leadership in this front office's message?
The front office has brought us a lot of success over the years. It’s now changing to a younger regime.
Looking forward to it.
This team doesn’t know how to win. There’s no urgency to win from the Owner…..FO……and manager is a an idiot. The team has no winning leaders sans perhaps Contreras has a bat and some fire. Given this where do you think this team actually goes??? You must see the missing pieces so prevalent in the teams you always refer to as “ MO’s Winning Year”……none of what attributed to those years are in place now and BDW seems either indifferent or incapable to bring those key factors back.
BDW has upgraded the development program. Glad to see it. Looking forward to following the young players under the new regime.
BDW promised to build from within after Tony left, didn’t they start then close a DR development facility…….then went about destroying the very system that was supposed to produce future ML talent…..and now we’re supposed to believe the whole story all over again??? It’s laughable.
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Re: Which spring troubles are you bothered by the most?

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Goldfan wrote: 22 Mar 2025 18:43 pm
Cranny wrote: 22 Mar 2025 17:21 pm
Goldfan wrote: 22 Mar 2025 16:53 pm
Cranny wrote: 22 Mar 2025 08:59 am
Idaho Cards wrote: 22 Mar 2025 01:57 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 22:23 pm None. Spring Training means nothing.
Mr Cranny - I respect you because you are a true Cardinal fan and you always stand up for TEAM; but do you see the lack of baseball leadership in this front office's message?
The front office has brought us a lot of success over the years. It’s now changing to a younger regime.
Looking forward to it.
This team doesn’t know how to win. There’s no urgency to win from the Owner…..FO……and manager is a an idiot. The team has no winning leaders sans perhaps Contreras has a bat and some fire. Given this where do you think this team actually goes??? You must see the missing pieces so prevalent in the teams you always refer to as “ MO’s Winning Year”……none of what attributed to those years are in place now and BDW seems either indifferent or incapable to bring those key factors back.
BDW has upgraded the development program. Glad to see it. Looking forward to following the young players under the new regime.
BDW promised to build from within after Tony left, didn’t they start then close a DR development facility…….then went about destroying the very system that was supposed to produce future ML talent…..and now we’re supposed to believe the whole story all over again??? It’s laughable.
Different regime under Chaim and Rob Cerfolio. But of course you already knew that, Goldfan. Right?

Looking forward to it.
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Re: Which spring troubles are you bothered by the most?

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Cranny wrote: 22 Mar 2025 17:21 pm
Goldfan wrote: 22 Mar 2025 16:53 pm
Cranny wrote: 22 Mar 2025 08:59 am
Idaho Cards wrote: 22 Mar 2025 01:57 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 22:23 pm None. Spring Training means nothing.
Mr Cranny - I respect you because you are a true Cardinal fan and you always stand up for TEAM; but do you see the lack of baseball leadership in this front office's message?
The front office has brought us a lot of success over the years. It’s now changing to a younger regime.
Looking forward to it.
This team doesn’t know how to win. There’s no urgency to win from the Owner…..FO……and manager is a an idiot. The team has no winning leaders sans perhaps Contreras has a bat and some fire. Given this where do you think this team actually goes??? You must see the missing pieces so prevalent in the teams you always refer to as “ MO’s Winning Year”……none of what attributed to those years are in place now and BDW seems either indifferent or incapable to bring those key factors back.
BDW has upgraded the development program. Glad to see it. Looking forward to following the young players under the new regime.
If you’re giving DeWitt the credit for “upgrading the development program,” why don’t you assign him commensurate blame for reducing funding and personnel and allowing the system to atrophy? I mean, you claim to be “balanced” and “objective,” so I’d expect that if you are going to give credit to those who actually have decision-making authority, you’d also assign proportionate responsibility to them when things go wrong.
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NYCardsFan wrote: 22 Mar 2025 19:26 pm
Cranny wrote: 22 Mar 2025 17:21 pm
Goldfan wrote: 22 Mar 2025 16:53 pm
Cranny wrote: 22 Mar 2025 08:59 am
Idaho Cards wrote: 22 Mar 2025 01:57 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 22:23 pm None. Spring Training means nothing.
Mr Cranny - I respect you because you are a true Cardinal fan and you always stand up for TEAM; but do you see the lack of baseball leadership in this front office's message?
The front office has brought us a lot of success over the years. It’s now changing to a younger regime.
Looking forward to it.
This team doesn’t know how to win. There’s no urgency to win from the Owner…..FO……and manager is a an idiot. The team has no winning leaders sans perhaps Contreras has a bat and some fire. Given this where do you think this team actually goes??? You must see the missing pieces so prevalent in the teams you always refer to as “ MO’s Winning Year”……none of what attributed to those years are in place now and BDW seems either indifferent or incapable to bring those key factors back.
BDW has upgraded the development program. Glad to see it. Looking forward to following the young players under the new regime.
If you’re giving DeWitt the credit for “upgrading the development program,” why don’t you assign him commensurate blame for reducing funding and personnel and allowing the system to atrophy? I mean, you claim to be “balanced” and “objective,” so I’d expect that if you are going to give credit to those who actually have decision-making authority and responsibility, you’d also assign proportionate blame to them when things go wrong.
There’s never a creative suggestion from Cranny he just covers ownership behind

BDW/Mo have failed this franchise and it’s now broke
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Re: Which spring troubles are you bothered by the most?

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vegascardsfan5890 wrote: 21 Mar 2025 19:22 pm Gray 0-3 12.56 ERA
Winn .089 AVG/.232 OPS
Walker .154/.438
Arenado .184/.554

Gorman actually has an average over .200

Donovan is batting .186 but I'm not honestly worried about him.

Who else would you add? I've been pleasantly surprised with the rest of our pitching
It's baseball - so it doesn't ever bother me.
That said, the 2 who bear the closest watching are Arenado and Pallante.
N/A has done virtually nothing since the first couple of ST games and was completley worthless as he faced more actual MLB arms when the month progressed.
Pallante has a very short track record as a starter and there were questions as to whether he could repeat or if last season was a mirage.
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Re: Which spring troubles are you bothered by the most?

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Baseball Savant wrote: 22 Mar 2025 19:29 pm
NYCardsFan wrote: 22 Mar 2025 19:26 pm
Cranny wrote: 22 Mar 2025 17:21 pm
Goldfan wrote: 22 Mar 2025 16:53 pm
Cranny wrote: 22 Mar 2025 08:59 am
Idaho Cards wrote: 22 Mar 2025 01:57 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 22:23 pm None. Spring Training means nothing.
Mr Cranny - I respect you because you are a true Cardinal fan and you always stand up for TEAM; but do you see the lack of baseball leadership in this front office's message?
The front office has brought us a lot of success over the years. It’s now changing to a younger regime.
Looking forward to it.
This team doesn’t know how to win. There’s no urgency to win from the Owner…..FO……and manager is a an idiot. The team has no winning leaders sans perhaps Contreras has a bat and some fire. Given this where do you think this team actually goes??? You must see the missing pieces so prevalent in the teams you always refer to as “ MO’s Winning Year”……none of what attributed to those years are in place now and BDW seems either indifferent or incapable to bring those key factors back.
BDW has upgraded the development program. Glad to see it. Looking forward to following the young players under the new regime.
If you’re giving DeWitt the credit for “upgrading the development program,” why don’t you assign him commensurate blame for reducing funding and personnel and allowing the system to atrophy? I mean, you claim to be “balanced” and “objective,” so I’d expect that if you are going to give credit to those who actually have decision-making authority and responsibility, you’d also assign proportionate blame to them when things go wrong.
There’s never a creative suggestion from Cranny he just covers ownership behind

BDW/Mo have failed this franchise and it’s now broke
I’ve come up with plenty of suggestions, Savant. You just choose to ignore them.
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Which spring troubles are you bothered by the most?
The STL Cardinals team-owners-management!
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Re: Which spring troubles are you bothered by the most?

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Cranny wrote: 22 Mar 2025 19:16 pm
Goldfan wrote: 22 Mar 2025 18:43 pm
Cranny wrote: 22 Mar 2025 17:21 pm
Goldfan wrote: 22 Mar 2025 16:53 pm
Cranny wrote: 22 Mar 2025 08:59 am
Idaho Cards wrote: 22 Mar 2025 01:57 am
Cranny wrote: 21 Mar 2025 22:23 pm None. Spring Training means nothing.
Mr Cranny - I respect you because you are a true Cardinal fan and you always stand up for TEAM; but do you see the lack of baseball leadership in this front office's message?
The front office has brought us a lot of success over the years. It’s now changing to a younger regime.
Looking forward to it.
This team doesn’t know how to win. There’s no urgency to win from the Owner…..FO……and manager is a an idiot. The team has no winning leaders sans perhaps Contreras has a bat and some fire. Given this where do you think this team actually goes??? You must see the missing pieces so prevalent in the teams you always refer to as “ MO’s Winning Year”……none of what attributed to those years are in place now and BDW seems either indifferent or incapable to bring those key factors back.
BDW has upgraded the development program. Glad to see it. Looking forward to following the young players under the new regime.
BDW promised to build from within after Tony left, didn’t they start then close a DR development facility…….then went about destroying the very system that was supposed to produce future ML talent…..and now we’re supposed to believe the whole story all over again??? It’s laughable.
Different regime under Chaim and Rob Cerfolio. But of course you already knew that, Goldfan. Right?

Looking forward to it.
BDW was the owner who defunded and gutted the player development with MO after Tony and Luhnow left…..there is no regime change….he’s the owner now.
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Re: Which spring troubles are you bothered by the most?

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earp wrote: 23 Mar 2025 07:56 am Which spring troubles are you bothered by the most?
The STL Cardinals team-owners-management!
Trite and superficial.
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Walker.
Jordan Walker looks like he might have been fool's gold. However, I somehow still think he's got the stuff to be a great player! We're all waiting & hoping...
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earp wrote: 23 Mar 2025 07:56 am Which spring troubles are you bothered by the most?
The STL Cardinals team-owners-management!
+1...Mo-ran needs to go home to his beautiful family!
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The player I have concerns about is Sonny Gray. It is an unpleasant surprise how he has pitched in the Spring. I am afraid this will carry over into the regular season. Something is different with Winn's swing. I hope he corrects that soon . Walker is still a work in progress. Losing a couple of weeks ST didn't help, but I think he will get better and better. I am encouraged by Gorman who is making much better contact. I like the adjustments he and Walker have made.
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redbirdfan51 wrote: 23 Mar 2025 08:26 am The player I have concerns about is Sonny Gray. It is an unpleasant surprise how he has pitched in the Spring. I am afraid this will carry over into the regular season. Something is different with Winn's swing. I hope he corrects that soon . Walker is still a work in progress. Losing a couple of weeks ST didn't help, but I think he will get better and better. I am encouraged by Gorman who is making much better contact. I like the adjustments he and Walker have made.
Sonny Gray can’t miss a bat this spring. Velocity seems down. He is my biggest concern coming out of spring training. Mo will be gone in less than 200 days. I’ll bake the cake for his farewell.
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