Where could Roddery Munoz fit in?

[Shady]

No need to be catty. Actually, I was impressed by Munoz' '24 highlights. He is relatively young and has some talent. Many of you doubted Burleson going into last season. Some feel he was the Cardinals most productive hitter last season.

As I said, Shady saw one nice inning from a no-name pitcher….

. . . and immediately thought “this is an opportunity to start another entirely pretextual new thread just to get attention,” and raced to click “New Topic” without lifting a finger to do any basic research (or thinking) before posting. (And per usual, then proceeded to edit the mindless post multiple times subsequently).

He's not that diabolical.

He's just one of those guys (narcissists?) who loves the "me against the world" narrative. He likes to think he sees talent no one else yet realizes.

He's been doing it for years.

Did you recognize Burleson's talent going into last season? Yes or No. If you did, good. Because there weren't many that did on Cards Talk. And, evidently, still don't.

I give you credit, it took 2 pages before you brought Burleson into the thread.

And you probably still don't have a clue as to Burleson's talent.

I know he’s not the next Joey Votto or Tony Gwynn.

However, Burleson made many CT posters look pretty foolish last season. Were you one of them? Check who is batting clean up today.

[Futuregm2]

No need to be catty. Actually, I was impressed by Munoz' '24 highlights. He is relatively young and has some talent. Many of you doubted Burleson going into last season. Some feel he was the Cardinals most productive hitter last season.

As I said, Shady saw one nice inning from a no-name pitcher….

. . . and immediately thought “this is an opportunity to start another entirely pretextual new thread just to get attention,” and raced to click “New Topic” without lifting a finger to do any basic research (or thinking) before posting. (And per usual, then proceeded to edit the mindless post multiple times subsequently).

He's not that diabolical.

He's just one of those guys (narcissists?) who loves the "me against the world" narrative. He likes to think he sees talent no one else yet realizes.

He's been doing it for years.

Did you recognize Burleson's talent going into last season? Yes or No. If you did, good. Because there weren't many that did on Cards Talk. And, evidently, still don't.

I give you credit, it took 2 pages before you brought Burleson into the thread.

And you probably still don't have a clue as to Burleson's talent.

I know he’s not the next Joey Votto or Tony Gwynn.

However, Burleson made many CT posters look pretty foolish last season. Were you one of them?

Foolish how? Nobody ever said he didn’t have talent. But he wasn’t what you hyped him up to be. He is a DH that can’t hit LHP and has average power, no speed, and no ability to take a walk. He had a .735 OPS, 1.2 bWAR, 21 HR, and 78 RBI in 595 PA. Those are hardly jaw dropping numbers.

[ecleme22]

No need to be catty. Actually, I was impressed by Munoz' '24 highlights. He is relatively young and has some talent. Many of you doubted Burleson going into last season. Some feel he was the Cardinals most productive hitter last season.

As I said, Shady saw one nice inning from a no-name pitcher….

. . . and immediately thought “this is an opportunity to start another entirely pretextual new thread just to get attention,” and raced to click “New Topic” without lifting a finger to do any basic research (or thinking) before posting. (And per usual, then proceeded to edit the mindless post multiple times subsequently).

He's not that diabolical.

He's just one of those guys (narcissists?) who loves the "me against the world" narrative. He likes to think he sees talent no one else yet realizes.

He's been doing it for years.

Did you recognize Burleson's talent going into last season? Yes or No. If you did, good. Because there weren't many that did on Cards Talk. And, evidently, still don't.

What's really funny is you just made my point.

"I think X player is going to be really good. Funny how most of you don't see that..."

Also, Burleson always had talent, which is why is started most 2024 games from day one. But I wouldn't necessarily spike the ball on his 2024, .733 OPS season...

[NYCardsFan]

No need to be catty. Actually, I was impressed by Munoz' '24 highlights. He is relatively young and has some talent. Many of you doubted Burleson going into last season. And gave me a hard time for promoting his potential.

Spoiler

Some feel he was the Cardinals' most productive hitter last season.

And those people are idiots.

Apparently, there are exactly two people who "feel" that: LastWordOnSport blogger Jeff Dahdah and CardsTalk troll Shady Dodo.

[Shady]

No need to be catty. Actually, I was impressed by Munoz' '24 highlights. He is relatively young and has some talent. Many of you doubted Burleson going into last season. Some feel he was the Cardinals most productive hitter last season.

As I said, Shady saw one nice inning from a no-name pitcher….

. . . and immediately thought “this is an opportunity to start another entirely pretextual new thread just to get attention,” and raced to click “New Topic” without lifting a finger to do any basic research (or thinking) before posting. (And per usual, then proceeded to edit the mindless post multiple times subsequently).

He's not that diabolical.

He's just one of those guys (narcissists?) who loves the "me against the world" narrative. He likes to think he sees talent no one else yet realizes.

He's been doing it for years.

Did you recognize Burleson's talent going into last season? Yes or No. If you did, good. Because there weren't many that did on Cards Talk. And, evidently, still don't.

I give you credit, it took 2 pages before you brought Burleson into the thread.

And you probably still don't have a clue as to Burleson's talent.

I know he’s not the next Joey Votto or Tony Gwynn.

However, Burleson made many CT posters look pretty foolish last season. Were you one of them?

Foolish how? Nobody ever said he didn’t have talent. But he wasn’t what you hyped him up to be. He is a DH that can’t hit LHP and has average power, no speed, and no ability to take a walk. He had a .735 OPS, 1.2 bWAR, 21 HR, and 78 RBI in 595 PA. Those are hardly jaw dropping numbers.

If I recall. Many on CT proclaimed Burleson was a dreadful player and should be sent down to AAA. 78 RBIs to lead to team wasn't dreadful. Now some say, we knew Burleson had some talent, we just didn't post it. Too funny. By the way, look who is batting clean up today,

[Futuregm2]

No need to be catty. Actually, I was impressed by Munoz' '24 highlights. He is relatively young and has some talent. Many of you doubted Burleson going into last season. Some feel he was the Cardinals most productive hitter last season.

As I said, Shady saw one nice inning from a no-name pitcher….

. . . and immediately thought “this is an opportunity to start another entirely pretextual new thread just to get attention,” and raced to click “New Topic” without lifting a finger to do any basic research (or thinking) before posting. (And per usual, then proceeded to edit the mindless post multiple times subsequently).

He's not that diabolical.

He's just one of those guys (narcissists?) who loves the "me against the world" narrative. He likes to think he sees talent no one else yet realizes.

He's been doing it for years.

Did you recognize Burleson's talent going into last season? Yes or No. If you did, good. Because there weren't many that did on Cards Talk. And, evidently, still don't.

I give you credit, it took 2 pages before you brought Burleson into the thread.

And you probably still don't have a clue as to Burleson's talent.

I know he’s not the next Joey Votto or Tony Gwynn.

However, Burleson made many CT posters look pretty foolish last season. Were you one of them?

Foolish how? Nobody ever said he didn’t have talent. But he wasn’t what you hyped him up to be. He is a DH that can’t hit LHP and has average power, no speed, and no ability to take a walk. He had a .735 OPS, 1.2 bWAR, 21 HR, and 78 RBI in 595 PA. Those are hardly jaw dropping numbers.

If I recall. Many on CT proclaimed Burleson was a dreadful player and should be sent down to AAA. 78 RBIs to lead to team wasn't dreadful. Now some say, we knew Burleson had some talent, we just didn't post it. Too funny. By the way, look who is batting clean up today,

I’ve never seen someone pimp a .735 OPS and 78 RBI so much. The fact that 78 RBI led the team is in fact dreadful. It’s a road game in ST and the Astros pitcher is a RHP, of course he should hit 4th in this lineup.

[Wattage]

No need to be catty. Actually, I was impressed by Munoz' '24 highlights. He is relatively young and has some talent. Many of you doubted Burleson going into last season. Some feel he was the Cardinals most productive hitter last season.

As I said, Shady saw one nice inning from a no-name pitcher….

. . . and immediately thought “this is an opportunity to start another entirely pretextual new thread just to get attention,” and raced to click “New Topic” without lifting a finger to do any basic research (or thinking) before posting. (And per usual, then proceeded to edit the mindless post multiple times subsequently).

He's not that diabolical.

He's just one of those guys (narcissists?) who loves the "me against the world" narrative. He likes to think he sees talent no one else yet realizes.

He's been doing it for years.

Did you recognize Burleson's talent going into last season? Yes or No. If you did, good. Because there weren't many that did on Cards Talk. And, evidently, still don't.

I give you credit, it took 2 pages before you brought Burleson into the thread.

And you probably still don't have a clue as to Burleson's talent.

I know he’s not the next Joey Votto or Tony Gwynn.

However, Burleson made many CT posters look pretty foolish last season. Were you one of them? Check who is batting clean up today.

Burleson did not at all. He had a .735 ops. The league average was .711. But for dhs it is .760. For 1b is is .726

For lf .722 but hes way below average in the field and nkt a big enough bat to make up for it.

At best hes an average 1b or below average dh and hes blocked at 1b. He will need to hit way better to make people look foolish

He really wasnt that good last seaspn. All he did is look the bare minimum or a mlb bench player. Which i gues sis better tham he did in 2023, but not worth your hype. Carlson and gorman had way better yeats in previous years than the one burleson had in 2024 only to both fall flat.

Heck nootbaar who younhyped at one time then abandoned had a better ywar than burleson.. youd have done better and got more credit for hanging onto your nootbaar prediction as he wasnt a hyped player coming up through the minors.

[Shady]

No need to be catty. Actually, I was impressed by Munoz' '24 highlights. He is relatively young and has some talent. Many of you doubted Burleson going into last season. Some feel he was the Cardinals most productive hitter last season.

As I said, Shady saw one nice inning from a no-name pitcher….

. . . and immediately thought “this is an opportunity to start another entirely pretextual new thread just to get attention,” and raced to click “New Topic” without lifting a finger to do any basic research (or thinking) before posting. (And per usual, then proceeded to edit the mindless post multiple times subsequently).

He's not that diabolical.

He's just one of those guys (narcissists?) who loves the "me against the world" narrative. He likes to think he sees talent no one else yet realizes.

He's been doing it for years.

Did you recognize Burleson's talent going into last season? Yes or No. If you did, good. Because there weren't many that did on Cards Talk. And, evidently, still don't.

I give you credit, it took 2 pages before you brought Burleson into the thread.

And you probably still don't have a clue as to Burleson's talent.

I know he’s not the next Joey Votto or Tony Gwynn.

However, Burleson made many CT posters look pretty foolish last season. Were you one of them? Check who is batting clean up today.

Burleson did not at all. He had a .735 ops. The league average was .711. But for dhs it is .760. For 1b is is .726

For lf .722 but hes way below average in the field and nkt a big enough bat to make up for it.

At best hes an average 1b or below average dh and hes blocked at 1b. He will need to hit way better to make people look foolish

He really wasnt that good last seaspn. All he did is look the bare minimum or a mlb bench player. Which i gues sis better tham he did in 2023, but not worth your hype. Carlson and gorman had way better yeats in previous years than the one burleson had in 2024 only to both fall flat.

Heck nootbaar who younhyped at one time then abandoned had a better ywar than burleson.. youd have done better and got more credit for hanging onto your nootbaar prediction as he wasnt a hyped player coming up through the minors.

"He will need to hit way better to make people look foolish". Burleson was hitting at an All Star level at the break last season. Yes, he did make many doubters on CT look foolish. They didn't say much then. But when he cooled off in the second half of the season, they came back out of the woodwork to degrade him again. Short memories, indeed. Too funny.

[ecleme22]

No need to be catty. Actually, I was impressed by Munoz' '24 highlights. He is relatively young and has some talent. Many of you doubted Burleson going into last season. Some feel he was the Cardinals most productive hitter last season.

As I said, Shady saw one nice inning from a no-name pitcher….

. . . and immediately thought “this is an opportunity to start another entirely pretextual new thread just to get attention,” and raced to click “New Topic” without lifting a finger to do any basic research (or thinking) before posting. (And per usual, then proceeded to edit the mindless post multiple times subsequently).

He's not that diabolical.

He's just one of those guys (narcissists?) who loves the "me against the world" narrative. He likes to think he sees talent no one else yet realizes.

He's been doing it for years.

Did you recognize Burleson's talent going into last season? Yes or No. If you did, good. Because there weren't many that did on Cards Talk. And, evidently, still don't.

I give you credit, it took 2 pages before you brought Burleson into the thread.

And you probably still don't have a clue as to Burleson's talent.

I know he’s not the next Joey Votto or Tony Gwynn.

However, Burleson made many CT posters look pretty foolish last season. Were you one of them? Check who is batting clean up today.

Burleson did not at all. He had a .735 ops. The league average was .711. But for dhs it is .760. For 1b is is .726

For lf .722 but hes way below average in the field and nkt a big enough bat to make up for it.

At best hes an average 1b or below average dh and hes blocked at 1b. He will need to hit way better to make people look foolish

He really wasnt that good last seaspn. All he did is look the bare minimum or a mlb bench player. Which i gues sis better tham he did in 2023, but not worth your hype. Carlson and gorman had way better yeats in previous years than the one burleson had in 2024 only to both fall flat.

Heck nootbaar who younhyped at one time then abandoned had a better ywar than burleson.. youd have done better and got more credit for hanging onto your nootbaar prediction as he wasnt a hyped player coming up through the minors.

"He will need to hit way better to make people look foolish". Burleson was hitting at an All Star level at the break last season. Yes, he did make many doubters on CT look foolish. They didn't say much then. But when he cooled off in the second half of the season, they came back out of the woodwork to degrade him again. Short memories, indeed. Too funny.

So I guess he made the ASG?

(By the way, an .814 OPS is decent, but not AS level.)

[NYCardsFan]

"He will need to hit way better to make people look foolish". Burleson was hitting at an All Star level at the break last season. Yes, he did make many doubters on CT look foolish. They didn't say much then. But when he cooled off in the second half of the season, they came back out of the woodwork to degrade him again. Short memories, indeed. Too funny.

So I guess he made the ASG?

(By the way, an .814 OPS is decent, but not AS level.)

He's made this silly, fact-free claim before. He knows he's full of it; he's just a sad little troll.

Obviously, it's imperative that Walker and Gorman demonstrate the lofty goals the Cardinals had/have for them. However, it will be almost as important for Burleson to return to the All Star caliber production he had the first half of '24. He was really good. How soon some forget that.

Narrator: Burleson never had "All-Star caliber" production. Shady is once again weaving fact-free fiction.

At the All Star break, Burleson was sitting at 1.4 fWAR, which (generously) extrapolates to somewhere between 2.0-2.5 fWAR for a full season if he were able to maintain the same pace. 2.0-2.5 fWAR is basically the production of a lower-end solid starter, but well short of "All Star"-level production. Of course, the reality is that the AS break was pretty close to the high water mark for Burleson in 2024, he was not able to maintain the same pace, and he ended the year at 0.6 fWAR.

[Futuregm2]

Poor Roddery Munoz’s one shining moment on CT has once again turned into a Burleson thread. Thanks a lot Shady.

[NYCardsFan]

Poor Roddery Munoz’s one shining moment on CT has once again turned into a Burleson thread. Thanks a lot Shady.

Forget it, FGM. It’s Shadytown . . .

[Wattage]

No need to be catty. Actually, I was impressed by Munoz' '24 highlights. He is relatively young and has some talent. Many of you doubted Burleson going into last season. Some feel he was the Cardinals most productive hitter last season.

As I said, Shady saw one nice inning from a no-name pitcher….

. . . and immediately thought “this is an opportunity to start another entirely pretextual new thread just to get attention,” and raced to click “New Topic” without lifting a finger to do any basic research (or thinking) before posting. (And per usual, then proceeded to edit the mindless post multiple times subsequently).

He's not that diabolical.

He's just one of those guys (narcissists?) who loves the "me against the world" narrative. He likes to think he sees talent no one else yet realizes.

He's been doing it for years.

Did you recognize Burleson's talent going into last season? Yes or No. If you did, good. Because there weren't many that did on Cards Talk. And, evidently, still don't.

I give you credit, it took 2 pages before you brought Burleson into the thread.

And you probably still don't have a clue as to Burleson's talent.

I know he’s not the next Joey Votto or Tony Gwynn.

However, Burleson made many CT posters look pretty foolish last season. Were you one of them? Check who is batting clean up today.

Burleson did not at all. He had a .735 ops. The league average was .711. But for dhs it is .760. For 1b is is .726

For lf .722 but hes way below average in the field and nkt a big enough bat to make up for it.

At best hes an average 1b or below average dh and hes blocked at 1b. He will need to hit way better to make people look foolish

He really wasnt that good last seaspn. All he did is look the bare minimum or a mlb bench player. Which i gues sis better tham he did in 2023, but not worth your hype. Carlson and gorman had way better yeats in previous years than the one burleson had in 2024 only to both fall flat.

Heck nootbaar who younhyped at one time then abandoned had a better ywar than burleson.. youd have done better and got more credit for hanging onto your nootbaar prediction as he wasnt a hyped player coming up through the minors.

"He will need to hit way better to make people look foolish". Burleson was hitting at an All Star level at the break last season. Yes, he did make many doubters on CT look foolish. They didn't say much then. But when he cooled off in the second half of the season, they came back out of the woodwork to degrade him again. Short memories, indeed. Too funny.

1. No he didnt come close to allstar production. A .814 ops is nice, and may be better than weaker hitting positions on allstar team but as a 1b/dh/or corner outfielder with poor defense.se, that production isnt close to alkstar, and he didnt come close nor was he ever in consideration for the all star team, but i would have been pleasantly surprised and happy with him as a starter if he hit like that for the year.
2 yes- he cooled off. And its part of the sample. He had a hot streak at the beginning of the 2024 season them went back to being the burleson we saw in 2023. I wpuldnt champion him being a good player for half a season but miserable for amother half. You are so desperate to claim victory on burleson and hype whatever he does that you are championing one half of a season even though he sucked the rest now? Thats sad and just shows how much you overhyped burleson and wont let your obsession with him go.

The results arent there.

[Wattage]

Poor Roddery Munoz’s one shining moment on CT has once again turned into a Burleson thread. Thanks a lot Shady.

To be fair, it was silly that roddery.munoz even had a shining cards talk moment off 1 spring inning over his 5+ and 6.5+ minor and major leagues eras.

[Futuregm2]

No need to be catty. Actually, I was impressed by Munoz' '24 highlights. He is relatively young and has some talent. Many of you doubted Burleson going into last season. Some feel he was the Cardinals most productive hitter last season.

As I said, Shady saw one nice inning from a no-name pitcher….

. . . and immediately thought “this is an opportunity to start another entirely pretextual new thread just to get attention,” and raced to click “New Topic” without lifting a finger to do any basic research (or thinking) before posting. (And per usual, then proceeded to edit the mindless post multiple times subsequently).

He's not that diabolical.

He's just one of those guys (narcissists?) who loves the "me against the world" narrative. He likes to think he sees talent no one else yet realizes.

He's been doing it for years.

Did you recognize Burleson's talent going into last season? Yes or No. If you did, good. Because there weren't many that did on Cards Talk. And, evidently, still don't.

I give you credit, it took 2 pages before you brought Burleson into the thread.

And you probably still don't have a clue as to Burleson's talent.

I know he’s not the next Joey Votto or Tony Gwynn.

However, Burleson made many CT posters look pretty foolish last season. Were you one of them? Check who is batting clean up today.

Burleson did not at all. He had a .735 ops. The league average was .711. But for dhs it is .760. For 1b is is .726

For lf .722 but hes way below average in the field and nkt a big enough bat to make up for it.

At best hes an average 1b or below average dh and hes blocked at 1b. He will need to hit way better to make people look foolish

He really wasnt that good last seaspn. All he did is look the bare minimum or a mlb bench player. Which i gues sis better tham he did in 2023, but not worth your hype. Carlson and gorman had way better yeats in previous years than the one burleson had in 2024 only to both fall flat.

Heck nootbaar who younhyped at one time then abandoned had a better ywar than burleson.. youd have done better and got more credit for hanging onto your nootbaar prediction as he wasnt a hyped player coming up through the minors.

"He will need to hit way better to make people look foolish". Burleson was hitting at an All Star level at the break last season. Yes, he did make many doubters on CT look foolish. They didn't say much then. But when he cooled off in the second half of the season, they came back out of the woodwork to degrade him again. Short memories, indeed. Too funny.

1. No he didnt come close to allstar production. A .814 ops is nice, and may be better than weaker hitting positions on allstar team but as a 1b/dh/or corner outfielder with poor defense.se, that production isnt close to alkstar, and he didnt come close nor was he ever in consideration for the all star team, but i would have been pleasantly surprised and happy with him as a starter if he hit like that for the year.
2 yes- he cooled off. And its part of the sample. He had a hot streak at the beginning of the 2024 season them went back to being the burleson we saw in 2023. I wpuldnt champion him being a good player for half a season but miserable for amother half. You are so desperate to claim victory on burleson and hype whatever he does that you are championing one half of a season even though he sucked the rest now? Thats sad and just shows how much you overhyped burleson and wont let your obsession with him go.

The results arent there.

I will say I wouldn’t necessarily say he cooled off in the “second half”, I would say he had a really bad September. Could be his luck ran out, could be he needs to be conditioned better for a full season, but it is what it is.

April: .718 OPS
May: .738 OPS
June: .824 OPS
July: .817 OPS
August: .752 OPS (ironically was probably his best all-around line: .278/.340/.412)
Sept: .510 OPS

[Shady]

So, are you doubters still convinced Roddery Munoz doesn't have much going for him? Like myself, Ricky Horton speaks positively in what he sees in Roddery Munoz.