Mo dumps 'reset' ..it's now a 'transition'

[RichieRichSTL]

They were planning on the reset but gray and Contreras didn’t want to be traded and he failed at trading Arenado so now he’s calling it a transition instead of saying the reset failed

Yep. Those 3 NTC's have all the leverage and power.

Fedde and Helsley? Were any attempts made to move their best trade chips? Maybe with them Arwanado would be gone as well. There are no spots for any “young” players to play. The rotation is full with Gray Fedde Mikolas Matz and Pallante. 1B was taken by Contreras. I guess 1 bench spot opened up. This is the same bad team as last 2 seasons with nothing to look forward too. They had a chance to sell fans on “youth movement” but this is not one of those.

Why trade them when we would get very little?

Helsely is the best closer in the league. A GM who worked for a living might be able to get something good in trade.

It’s funny that some of the same people that say helsely is too valuable to the team and it’s potential to win at the same time say he’s worthless and no one will trade anything for him

Exactly.

[Dicktar2023]

They were planning on the reset but gray and Contreras didn’t want to be traded and he failed at trading Arenado so now he’s calling it a transition instead of saying the reset failed

Yep. Those 3 NTC's have all the leverage and power.

Fedde and Helsley? Were any attempts made to move their best trade chips? Maybe with them Arwanado would be gone as well. There are no spots for any “young” players to play. The rotation is full with Gray Fedde Mikolas Matz and Pallante. 1B was taken by Contreras. I guess 1 bench spot opened up. This is the same bad team as last 2 seasons with nothing to look forward too. They had a chance to sell fans on “youth movement” but this is not one of those.

Why trade them when we would get very little?

Helsely is the best closer in the league. A GM who worked for a living might be able to get something good in trade.

No he won't. The last time we got a good prospect was David Freese and a better one in Wainwright.

I love all of this second guessing and ridiculous comments on Mo.

You're correct that Mo would not. I said a GM who worked for a living.

[Quincy Varnish]

They were planning on the reset but gray and Contreras didn’t want to be traded and he failed at trading Arenado so now he’s calling it a transition instead of saying the reset failed

Yep. Those 3 NTC's have all the leverage and power.

Fedde and Helsley? Were any attempts made to move their best trade chips? Maybe with them Arwanado would be gone as well. There are no spots for any “young” players to play. The rotation is full with Gray Fedde Mikolas Matz and Pallante. 1B was taken by Contreras. I guess 1 bench spot opened up. This is the same bad team as last 2 seasons with nothing to look forward too. They had a chance to sell fans on “youth movement” but this is not one of those.

Why trade them when we would get very little?

Helsely is the best closer in the league. A GM who worked for a living might be able to get something good in trade.

This may be the problem. Mo’s biggest cheerleader is already resigned to the likelihood that he’d get very little in return.

[RichieRichSTL]

Mo, in an organization that demanded results and not you almost made the playoffs or you made them and usually got bumped quickly, would have long been history.

The fan base has soured on him and while the owner is the one whose opinion that ultimately matters, he can't be too happy with a POBO that has brought bad PR locally and nationally to the team in recent years.

Just another in the line of Moisms that people role their eyes at. Reset, no transition, no whatever the hell...

[Alex Reyes Cy Young]

https://www.stltoday.com/sports/

In Mo's Sunday press conference in Jupiter, he tells media that he used the term 'reset' as he didn't wish to use 'rebuild ' . Guess he is tired
of the 'reset' jargon and says a better term to explain the Cardinals approach is 'transition '.
The downside of 'transition' vs 'reset' for print journalists is that 'translation' is 10 letters vs. 5 for 'reset' . So on the print side of things, journalists whose goal is to be concise and limit space in their column have a longer word . For CT posters, it may be the same situation. Everyone has hooked on to the 'reset' word and now Mo is attempting to make a change.

So please be aware that even before the first full day of camp with all position players , the emphasis has changed.
The bad witch 'Reset ' is now dead. The good witch 'transition' has arrived in Jupiter.
The bad witch 'Reset' has a more evil twin than herself lurking to fly in on her Cardinal bat .. 'Rebuild' witch is her name .
So which witch will prevail for 2025 ? Transition ? deceased Reset ? or the dreaded Rebuild emerges?

'Witch' do you think ?

I think the org was prepared to enter a full "Reset" due to financial uncertainty but that all changed with the new TV deal. As such, they pivoted away from a full rebuild while still giving the younger guys their shot.

By no means am I defending these clowns but given the mitigating circumstances, I can't fault their logic. Only time will tell if it was a good move.

They win 87+ games, the kids all play up to their potential, and the team nabs a division title or WC spot and it will look genius.

If they lose 90+ games, the kid's underachieve, and they get $0.05 on the dollar at the TDL instead of the $0.25 they'd have gotten in the offseason, it will be a fitting end to Mo's regime.

Personally, I'd prefer the former.

This is an interesting take, I am not familiar with all these moving parts, but one thing is for certain, something changed along the way. Moe grossly miscalculated the interest level of his NTC players. He evidently thought they would want to run for the high hills and they simple didn't. This was never surprising to me, playing for the Cardinals is great for soooo many reasons. I've stated 5 times or so, so I'll spare you, but I am sure you can take an educated guess why.

The probably is systemic in the minors and our true hope is that Bloom and his new hires do three things IMO to create success into the future.

Develop what they have and prepare them better
Draft better both classic and international
Trade for the minors for other minor league players or controlled players, this is something that Cardinals have completely lacked in there playbook and IMO is a powerful tool for grooming the roster current state and near future.

[An Old Friend]

Mo, in an organization that demanded results and not you almost made the playoffs or you made them and usually got bumped quickly, would have long been history.

The fan base has soured on him and while the owner is the one whose opinion that ultimately matters, he can't be too happy with a POBO that has brought bad PR locally and nationally to the team in recent years.

Just another in the line of Moisms that people role their eyes at. Reset, no transition, no whatever the hell...

DeWitt's loyalty to Mozeliak and keeping everything in house is eerily similar to the way that Jerry Reinsdorf has ran the White Sox and Bulls.

[thetank2]

Mo, in an organization that demanded results and not you almost made the playoffs or you made them and usually got bumped quickly, would have long been history.

The fan base has soured on him and while the owner is the one whose opinion that ultimately matters, he can't be too happy with a POBO that has brought bad PR locally and nationally to the team in recent years.

Just another in the line of Moisms that people role their eyes at. Reset, no transition, no whatever the hell...

I love reading these posts from so-called baseball experts.

[RichieRichSTL]

Mo, in an organization that demanded results and not you almost made the playoffs or you made them and usually got bumped quickly, would have long been history.

The fan base has soured on him and while the owner is the one whose opinion that ultimately matters, he can't be too happy with a POBO that has brought bad PR locally and nationally to the team in recent years.

Just another in the line of Moisms that people role their eyes at. Reset, no transition, no whatever the hell...

I love reading these posts from so-called baseball experts.

So called baseball experts? None of us on here are experts. It is largely fan opinion, even yours. Besides I don't get paid millions to be right. Mo does. So the burden of assessing circumstances properly is not on your, not on me, but on the man who gets paid millions.

[Alex Reyes Cy Young]

Yeah... I mean... I think ownership completely lost it as it pertains to attendance and viewership declines. They saw that and decided, "well, if you're not going to come, we're not going to invest in the team"... when this fanbase CLEARLY attends and watches when they feel like ownership is TRYING TO WIN.

I don't know why they lost their way, but they did without a doubt.

The sooner that people realize that rich people hate regular people, and really, really hate poor people, the better off we'll all be.

Completely agree, and I am not talking about Joe Public (who invested well and often or inherited some cash) with a net worth 15 million or so, I am talking the billion dollar boys club. Ronnie, they absolutely hate us.