Mo dumps 'reset' ..it's now a 'transition'

Welcome to STLtoday.com's forum for fans of the St. Louis Cardinals.

Moderators: STLtoday Forum Moderators, Cards Talk Moderators

ramfandan
Forum User
Posts: 4210
Joined: 27 May 2024 19:52 pm

Mo dumps 'reset' ..it's now a 'transition'

Post by ramfandan »

https://www.stltoday.com/sports/

In Mo's Sunday press conference in Jupiter, he tells media that he used the term 'reset' as he didn't wish to use 'rebuild ' . Guess he is tired
of the 'reset' jargon and says a better term to explain the Cardinals approach is 'transition '.
The downside of 'transition' vs 'reset' for print journalists is that 'translation' is 10 letters vs. 5 for 'reset' . So on the print side of things, journalists whose goal is to be concise and limit space in their column have a longer word . For CT posters, it may be the same situation. Everyone has hooked on to the 'reset' word and now Mo is attempting to make a change.

So please be aware that even before the first full day of camp with all position players , the emphasis has changed.
The bad witch 'Reset ' is now dead. The good witch 'transition' has arrived in Jupiter.
The bad witch 'Reset' has a more evil twin than herself lurking to fly in on her Cardinal bat .. 'Rebuild' witch is her name .
So which witch will prevail for 2025 ? Transition ? deceased Reset ? or the dreaded Rebuild emerges? :evil:

'Witch' do you think ?
blackinkbiz
Forum User
Posts: 3802
Joined: 05 May 2020 14:17 pm

Re: Mo dumps 'reset' ..it's now a 'transition'

Post by blackinkbiz »

ramfandan wrote: 16 Feb 2025 13:57 pm https://www.stltoday.com/sports/

In Mo's Sunday press conference in Jupiter, he tells media that he used the term 'reset' as he didn't wish to use 'rebuild ' . Guess he is tired
of the 'reset' jargon and says a better term to explain the Cardinals approach is 'transition '.
The downside of 'transition' vs 'reset' for print journalists is that 'translation' is 10 letters vs. 5 for 'reset' . So on the print side of things, journalists whose goal is to be concise and limit space in their column have a longer word . For CT posters, it may be the same situation. Everyone has hooked on to the 'reset' word and now Mo is attempting to make a change.

So please be aware that even before the first full day of camp with all position players , the emphasis has changed.
The bad witch 'Reset ' is now dead. The good witch 'transition' has arrived in Jupiter.
The bad witch 'Reset' has a more evil twin than herself lurking to fly in on her Cardinal bat .. 'Rebuild' witch is her name .
So which witch will prevail for 2025 ? Transition ? deceased Reset ? or the dreaded Rebuild emerges? :evil:

'Witch' do you think ?
I think the org was prepared to enter a full "Reset" due to financial uncertainty but that all changed with the new TV deal. As such, they pivoted away from a full rebuild while still giving the younger guys their shot.

By no means am I defending these clowns but given the mitigating circumstances, I can't fault their logic. Only time will tell if it was a good move.

They win 87+ games, the kids all play up to their potential, and the team nabs a division title or WC spot and it will look genius.

If they lose 90+ games, the kid's underachieve, and they get $0.05 on the dollar at the TDL instead of the $0.25 they'd have gotten in the offseason, it will be a fitting end to Mo's regime.

Personally, I'd prefer the former.
imadangman
Forum User
Posts: 2531
Joined: 14 Dec 2022 09:21 am

Re: Mo dumps 'reset' ..it's now a 'transition'

Post by imadangman »

This is as much as they prepared to do before the 2020 season, before covid blew the season. They have a history of this.
An Old Friend
Forum User
Posts: 12488
Joined: 20 Nov 2018 23:31 pm

Re: Mo dumps 'reset' ..it's now a 'transition'

Post by An Old Friend »

Reset, transition... different semantics to describe the same approach, that being they're moving towards a small market approach and resetting their payroll baseline to reflect that new reality.
Quincy Varnish
Forum User
Posts: 17129
Joined: 10 Nov 2019 04:55 am

Re: Mo dumps 'reset' ..it's now a 'transition'

Post by Quincy Varnish »

I think Mo should call it a “fart parade”.
Clubmaker2
Forum User
Posts: 1446
Joined: 16 Apr 2021 16:53 pm

Re: Mo dumps 'reset' ..it's now a 'transition'

Post by Clubmaker2 »

a rudderless ship at this point. changing its long term goal every other month to match whatever they havent gotten done lol. Or to boost ticket sales.

Again, Mo being Mo at his Mo best, he as a GM , again fails to convert assets the cardinals have, into assets the cardinals need.
hilton head is 4 idiots
Banned User
Posts: 6965
Joined: 13 May 2020 21:57 pm

Re: Mo dumps 'reset' ..it's now a 'transition'

Post by hilton head is 4 idiots »

An Old Friend wrote: 16 Feb 2025 14:56 pm Reset, transition... different semantics to describe the same approach, that being they're moving towards a small market approach and resetting their payroll baseline to reflect that new reality.
Exactly. Mo realized Arenado is still a Cardinal today, and that fact changed the description in a way that only Arenado's NTC could DICTATE!
An Old Friend
Forum User
Posts: 12488
Joined: 20 Nov 2018 23:31 pm

Re: Mo dumps 'reset' ..it's now a 'transition'

Post by An Old Friend »

Quincy Varnish wrote: 16 Feb 2025 15:03 pm I think Mo should call it a “fart parade”.
It would at least be more entertaining.

Come to think of it... the White Sox may be an actual fart parade. Have you seen their projected opening day rotation? My god. 8O
passthebuck
Forum User
Posts: 75
Joined: 28 May 2024 13:58 pm

Re: Mo dumps 'reset' ..it's now a 'transition'

Post by passthebuck »

I believe the real word for it was from the 1960s. Since it's mostly magical fairy tale spin.

Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious.

The truth is DeWitt cut the budget and Mo is already at or well above it.

They want the revenue, but don't want the expenses.
Dicktar2023
Forum User
Posts: 1381
Joined: 25 Jul 2023 12:31 pm

Re: Mo dumps 'reset' ..it's now a 'transition'

Post by Dicktar2023 »

ramfandan wrote: 16 Feb 2025 13:57 pm The downside of 'transition' vs 'reset' for print journalists is that 'translation' is 10 letters vs. 5 for 'reset' . So on the print side of things, journalists whose goal is to be concise and limit space in their column have a longer word . For CT posters, it may be the same situation. Everyone has hooked on to the 'reset' word and now Mo is attempting to make a change.
"B.S." is only two letter.
Ozziesfan41
Forum User
Posts: 4442
Joined: 23 May 2024 13:01 pm

Re: Mo dumps 'reset' ..it's now a 'transition'

Post by Ozziesfan41 »

They were planning on the reset but gray and Contreras didn’t want to be traded and he failed at trading Arenado so now he’s calling it a transition instead of saying the reset failed
hilton head is 4 idiots
Banned User
Posts: 6965
Joined: 13 May 2020 21:57 pm

Re: Mo dumps 'reset' ..it's now a 'transition'

Post by hilton head is 4 idiots »

Ozziesfan41 wrote: 16 Feb 2025 15:29 pm They were planning on the reset but gray and Contreras didn’t want to be traded and he failed at trading Arenado so now he’s calling it a transition instead of saying the reset failed
Yep. Those 3 NTC's have all the leverage and power.
RichieRichSTL
Forum User
Posts: 566
Joined: 24 May 2024 08:31 am

Re: Mo dumps 'reset' ..it's now a 'transition'

Post by RichieRichSTL »

An Old Friend wrote: 16 Feb 2025 14:56 pm Reset, transition... different semantics to describe the same approach, that being they're moving towards a small market approach and resetting their payroll baseline to reflect that new reality.
Like post-Gussie AB. Small thinking; a next generation that doesn't share the passion; doesn't talk baseball, but corporate speak; talks about 'building within and younger players' as if all teams don't try to; hires managers whom they think can control and leans heavily on nostalgia and then wonders why fans drift away.

Literally, the Cardinals have only one completing local sport for much of the season-soccer. Sure St. Louis is small, but add the St. Louis and St. Charles County areas and the regional appeal, you have a good fanbase. That base has shown they will attend in droves when they feel like they are provided a good product.

Like the brewery teams of the last days, they seem content to go low-risk, low competitive.
Swuhgen
Forum User
Posts: 2291
Joined: 21 Aug 2019 09:33 am

Re: Mo dumps 'reset' ..it's now a 'transition'

Post by Swuhgen »

ramfandan wrote: 16 Feb 2025 13:57 pm https://www.stltoday.com/sports/

In Mo's Sunday press conference in Jupiter, he tells media that he used the term 'reset' as he didn't wish to use 'rebuild ' . Guess he is tired
of the 'reset' jargon and says a better term to explain the Cardinals approach is 'transition '.
The downside of 'transition' vs 'reset' for print journalists is that 'translation' is 10 letters vs. 5 for 'reset' . So on the print side of things, journalists whose goal is to be concise and limit space in their column have a longer word . For CT posters, it may be the same situation. Everyone has hooked on to the 'reset' word and now Mo is attempting to make a change.

So please be aware that even before the first full day of camp with all position players , the emphasis has changed.
The bad witch 'Reset ' is now dead. The good witch 'transition' has arrived in Jupiter.
The bad witch 'Reset' has a more evil twin than herself lurking to fly in on her Cardinal bat .. 'Rebuild' witch is her name .
So which witch will prevail for 2025 ? Transition ? deceased Reset ? or the dreaded Rebuild emerges? :evil:

'Witch' do you think ?
I don’t really listen to what he says anymore. He’s a lame duck. Just have to get through this year and we won’t have to listen to his nonsense anymore.
Ozziesfan41
Forum User
Posts: 4442
Joined: 23 May 2024 13:01 pm

Re: Mo dumps 'reset' ..it's now a 'transition'

Post by Ozziesfan41 »

hilton head is 4 idiots wrote: 16 Feb 2025 15:32 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 16 Feb 2025 15:29 pm They were planning on the reset but gray and Contreras didn’t want to be traded and he failed at trading Arenado so now he’s calling it a transition instead of saying the reset failed
Yep. Those 3 NTC's have all the leverage and power.
You are correct
An Old Friend
Forum User
Posts: 12488
Joined: 20 Nov 2018 23:31 pm

Re: Mo dumps 'reset' ..it's now a 'transition'

Post by An Old Friend »

RichieRichSTL wrote: 16 Feb 2025 15:34 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 16 Feb 2025 14:56 pm Reset, transition... different semantics to describe the same approach, that being they're moving towards a small market approach and resetting their payroll baseline to reflect that new reality.
Like post-Gussie AB. Small thinking; a next generation that doesn't share the passion; doesn't talk baseball, but corporate speak; talks about 'building within and younger players' as if all teams don't try to; hires managers whom they think can control and leans heavily on nostalgia and then wonders why fans drift away.

Literally, the Cardinals have only one completing local sport for much of the season-soccer. Sure St. Louis is small, but add the St. Louis and St. Charles County areas and the regional appeal, you have a good fanbase. That base has shown they will attend in droves when they feel like they are provided a good product.

Like the brewery teams of the last days, they seem content to go low-risk, low competitive.
Yeah... I mean... I think ownership completely lost it as it pertains to attendance and viewership declines. They saw that and decided, "well, if you're not going to come, we're not going to invest in the team"... when this fanbase CLEARLY attends and watches when they feel like ownership is TRYING TO WIN.

I don't know why they lost their way, but they did without a doubt.
Post Reply