It seems most posters feel Walker and Gorman will be more productive than Burleson

[JohnnyMO]

Marshall - this is getting hard to watch. You are not changing any minds, you certainly aren’t making yourself look smarter than your detractors, and it’s gone from kind of funny to incredibly sad how obvious it is that at least 80% of the posters you say you enjoy conversing with are other accounts you own.

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Burly will be starved for PAs, especially if Arenado is still here. Gorman and Walker are going to get their PAs. Burly will get the scraps, maybe a bit more if Walker, Donovan or Contreras gets hurt.

[Mort Gage]

For what it's worth, my prediction for TGAB...
12 HR
48 RBI
.248, .297, .386, .683

If he's a part time player. Some of your numbers are feasible. However, I'd be really surprised if Burleson ends up with a BA under .250 if he sees, primarily, RHP. He could very likely be the best hitter on the current roster against RHP.

We've gone over this before: In 2024 alone, Contreras, Donovan, and Herrera were all better hitters than Burleson vs. RHP. And career-wise, Burleson is not even close to being the best hitter on the current roster vs. RHP. Why do you keep repeating claims that you know aren't true? I don't know, Shady, sure seems like you might be operating in bad faith . . .

I have pointed out the adoration Cardinals experts have alluded to about Burleson's hitting ability. And who they would prefer batting in the clutch against outstanding RHP pitching. The doubters have called the experts shills for the organizations. But think about it, why don't they say those same distinct accolades for other players? Burleson is their preference, it seems.

Source(s)? Link(s)? Anything? Bueller?

Anyway, who cares what Brad Thompson thinks? The numbers are the numbers.

Do the Cardinals have any actual "experts" in the organization? Who are they? And what exactly are these "accolades" they have supppsedly bestowed upon Mr Burleson?

So many questions...so few answers.

I would advise that you pay much closer attention to the Cardinals telecasts and post game shows. You seem to be missing some quite obvious praise for Burleson's hitting ability.

Praise does not win games. Offensive & defensive production does. So far during his 3 year-career, your Beloved Burly has not been particularly productive as evidenced by a career 0.4 WAR and 95 OPS+.

The Cardinals organization and expert analysts seem to REALLY like Burleson. Regardless of what pseudo, wannabe experts on CT think. That's just the way it is. Sorry.

As always, Shady, your baseball acumen SURPASSES the "others" on CT. I believe Alec Burleson is a baseball cyborg sent to us from the 23rd "century" to show us the "future of hitting". I have a friend whose friend is a Red Sox scout and he concurs 100%. If Goldschmidt and Arenado had only sought Burleson's "counsel" they would have "won" two World Series, at least. Whether it's against stout RHP or crafty LHP, Alec Burleson is your man. I rest my case.

[mattmitchl44]

How about we just hope that they all are productive and successful in 2025?

[Monsieur De Treville]

How about we just hope that they all are productive and successful in 2025?

Hope & Pray...the Cardinal fan motto moving forward!

[Shady]

Marshall - this is getting hard to watch. You are not changing any minds, you certainly aren’t making yourself look smarter than your detractors, and it’s gone from kind of funny to incredibly sad how obvious it is that at least 80% of the posters you say you enjoy conversing with are other accounts you own.

Johnny, looks like we are on a first name basis. I'm not trying to change anybody's opinion. I just really appreciate a hitting talent like Burleson. And, so do some very prominent baseball people that I've heard on tv. And I'm fine to converse on CT with even just a few respectful posters. I do feel sorry for all of posters with the rotten attitudes on this forum. Considering all the other really troubling things going on in the world. Cards Talk should not be a place to vent so much anger.

[Mort Gage]

Marshall - this is getting hard to watch. You are not changing any minds, you certainly aren’t making yourself look smarter than your detractors, and it’s gone from kind of funny to incredibly sad how obvious it is that at least 80% of the posters you say you enjoy conversing with are other accounts you own.

Johnny, looks like we are on a first name basis. I'm not trying to change anybody's opinion. I just really appreciate a hitting talent like Burleson. And, so do some very prominent baseball people that I've heard. And I'm fine to converse with anybody respectful. Even if it's just a few. I do feel sorry for all of posters with the rotten attitudes on this forum. Considering all the other really troubling things going on in the world. Card Talk should not be a place to vent so much anger.

Thank you, Shady, once again. You are a voice of civility and reason on this board. I have finally seen the light on Alec Burleson. I just wonder if an 8 yr, 240 million deal to bypass his arb years would be enough. He is a generational talent and must be compensated as such. Please accept my apologies for being so wrongheaded about him. Some people say you have had sock handles, even racist ones, to agree with yourself but that is nonsense. They are simply other posters who like you who recognize unique talent. You are 100% correct. The problem is not with you but with all the people on multiple boards who believe you are a nuisance. Carry forth, good man!

[Shady]

The offseason has really been boring. But ST is not far away. Some intriguing stories will unfold. Walker's and Gorman's progress probably top the list. Next, for me, are some young starting pitchers. Namely McGreevy and Mathews. Also, how will Contreras be defensively at 1B? Will Winn continue on a path to superstardom? I also look forward to see if Herrera and Burleson can build on the progress they showed last season. ST can't come soon enough.

[Drewman+]

The offseason has really been boring. But ST is not far away. Some intriguing stories will unfold. Walker's and Gorman's progress probably top the list. Next, for me, are some young starting pitchers. Namely McGreevy and Mathews. Also, how will Contreras be defensively at 1B? Will Winn continue on a path to superstardom? I also look forward to see if Herrera and Burleson can build on the progress they showed last season. ST can't come soon enough.

Good point. kyfan and Buttercup would agree. And Sanusual6. And Pure Vida. Anyone I am forgetting?

[Shady]

The offseason has really been boring. But ST is not far away. Some intriguing stories will unfold. Walker's and Gorman's progress probably top the list. Next, for me, are some young starting pitchers. Namely McGreevy and Mathews. Also, how will Contreras be defensively at 1B? Will Winn continue on a path to superstardom? I also look forward to see if Herrera and Burleson can build on the progress they showed last season. ST can't come soon enough.

Actually, Saggese and Wetherholt should be added to the list of, possibly, intriguing stories in ST. Two outstanding young hitters. The Cardinals appear to be pretty set for a while at 3B, 2B and, obviously, at SS. If Arenado is dealt and Gorman gets it together at 3B. That would be fabulous for the near future. If not, I could see Wetherholt at 3B and Saggese at 2B for 4 or five seasons, at least.

[Drewman+]

The offseason has really been boring. But ST is not far away. Some intriguing stories will unfold. Walker's and Gorman's progress probably top the list. Next, for me, are some young starting pitchers. Namely McGreevy and Mathews. Also, how will Contreras be defensively at 1B? Will Winn continue on a path to superstardom? I also look forward to see if Herrera and Burleson can build on the progress they showed last season. ST can't come soon enough.

Actually, Saggese and Wetherholt should be added to the list of, possibly, intriguing stories in ST. Two outstanding young hitters. The Cardinals appear to be pretty set for a while at 3B, 2B and, obviously, at SS. If Arenado is dealt and Gorman gets it together at 3B. That would be fabulous for the near future. If not, I could see Wetherholt at 3B and Saggese at 2B for 4 or five seasons, at least.

Both would block the slow, one handed, less than average glove Burly.Both are better base runners. Welcome the upgrade .

[Drewman+]

That's enough attention for you tonight Marsha. Give it a rest. Your insights can wait until after church tomorrow m

[Drewman+]

Obviously, it's imperative that Walker and Gorman demonstrate the lofty goals the Cardinals had/have for them. However, it will be almost as important for Burleson to return to the All Star caliber production he had the first half of '24. He was really good. How soon some forget that.

He had 2 great months. 45 of his 78 RBI came in June and July. In the other 4 months he had RBI totals of 10, 8, 9, and 6. Gorman sucked last year and then got sent down and he actually had more 10+ RBI months (4) than Burleson (3).

That's exactly my point. "it will be almost as important for Burleson to return to the All Star caliber production he had the first half of '24". It will be fascinating to see how all three produce in '25. Walker, Gorman and Burleson.

That's really what Buttercup and Sanusual6 and Robert Shelton always say?

This thread was heading out of the front page. Gracias for the bump.

Why do you even care?

Unless, of course, your primary purpose on this forum is to get attention . . .

Because I enjoy baseball discussion on topics that interest me. Especially, courteous responses. Any other questions?

Pure Vida always says that.
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What are you talking about? This is juvenile!

ok whatever Me. Shady

[Alex Reyes Cy Young]

Burly will be starved for PAs, especially if Arenado is still here. Gorman and Walker are going to get their PAs. Burly will get the scraps, maybe a bit more if Walker, Donovan or Contreras gets hurt.

Not staved enough. How I wish your prediction was correct.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Burly will be starved for PAs, especially if Arenado is still here. Gorman and Walker are going to get their PAs. Burly will get the scraps, maybe a bit more if Walker, Donovan or Contreras gets hurt.

Not staved enough. How I wish your prediction was correct.

Yep. Hasn’t been the case. Dude Is eating at the head table

[Alex Reyes Cy Young]

Burly will be starved for PAs, especially if Arenado is still here. Gorman and Walker are going to get their PAs. Burly will get the scraps, maybe a bit more if Walker, Donovan or Contreras gets hurt.

Not staved enough. How I wish your prediction was correct.

Yep. Hasn’t been the case. Dude Is eating at the head table

It's his spot to lose, that's for sure.