It seems most posters feel Walker and Gorman will be more productive than Burleson

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Re: It seems most posters feel Walker and Gorman will be more productive than Burleson

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Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 18:47 pm
NYCardsFan wrote: 31 Jan 2025 17:10 pm
Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 16:51 pm
SamTheMan wrote: 31 Jan 2025 15:21 pm For what it's worth, my prediction for TGAB...
12 HR
48 RBI
.248, .297, .386, .683
If he's a part time player. Some of your numbers are feasible. However, I'd be really surprised if Burleson ends up with a BA under .250 if he sees, primarily, RHP. He could very likely be the best hitter on the current roster against RHP.
We've gone over this before: In 2024 alone, Contreras, Donovan, and Herrera were all better hitters than Burleson vs. RHP. And career-wise, Burleson is not even close to being the best hitter on the current roster vs. RHP. Why do you keep repeating claims that you know aren't true? I don't know, Shady, sure seems like you might be operating in bad faith . . .
I have pointed out the adoration Cardinals experts have alluded to about Burleson's hitting ability. And who they would prefer batting in the clutch against outstanding RHP pitching. The doubters have called the experts shills for the organizations. But think about it, why don't they say those same distinct accolades for other players? Burleson is their preference, it seems.
Link the source for what you say.

And just because one “feels” doesn’t mean factual data supports it.
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Re: It seems most posters feel Walker and Gorman will be more productive than Burleson

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Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 18:47 pm
NYCardsFan wrote: 31 Jan 2025 17:10 pm
Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 16:51 pm
SamTheMan wrote: 31 Jan 2025 15:21 pm For what it's worth, my prediction for TGAB...
12 HR
48 RBI
.248, .297, .386, .683
If he's a part time player. Some of your numbers are feasible. However, I'd be really surprised if Burleson ends up with a BA under .250 if he sees, primarily, RHP. He could very likely be the best hitter on the current roster against RHP.
We've gone over this before: In 2024 alone, Contreras, Donovan, and Herrera were all better hitters than Burleson vs. RHP. And career-wise, Burleson is not even close to being the best hitter on the current roster vs. RHP. Why do you keep repeating claims that you know aren't true? I don't know, Shady, sure seems like you might be operating in bad faith . . .
I have pointed out the adoration Cardinals experts have alluded to about Burleson's hitting ability. And who they would prefer batting in the clutch against outstanding RHP pitching. The doubters have called the experts shills for the organizations. But think about it, why don't they say those same distinct accolades for other players? Burleson is their preference, it seems.
Source(s)? Link(s)? Anything? Bueller?

Anyway, who cares what Brad Thompson thinks? The numbers are the numbers.
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Re: It seems most posters feel Walker and Gorman will be more productive than Burleson

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Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 18:47 pm
NYCardsFan wrote: 31 Jan 2025 17:10 pm
Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 16:51 pm
SamTheMan wrote: 31 Jan 2025 15:21 pm For what it's worth, my prediction for TGAB...
12 HR
48 RBI
.248, .297, .386, .683
If he's a part time player. Some of your numbers are feasible. However, I'd be really surprised if Burleson ends up with a BA under .250 if he sees, primarily, RHP. He could very likely be the best hitter on the current roster against RHP.
We've gone over this before: In 2024 alone, Contreras, Donovan, and Herrera were all better hitters than Burleson vs. RHP. And career-wise, Burleson is not even close to being the best hitter on the current roster vs. RHP. Why do you keep repeating claims that you know aren't true? I don't know, Shady, sure seems like you might be operating in bad faith . . .
I have pointed out the adoration Cardinals experts have alluded to about Burleson's hitting ability. And who they would prefer batting in the clutch against outstanding RHP pitching. The doubters have called the experts shills for the organizations. But think about it, why don't they say those same distinct accolades for other players? Burleson is their preference, it seems.
no one, not one professional expert, pundit, journalist ever said that "Burleson is preferred in the clutch against outstanding RHP pitching". You're the only one, you've been saying it for 2 years, and his stats NEVER have showed he's clutch.

Stop Trolling with repetitive garbage. Jim Edmonds hyped Burleson last Spring Training, he hyped everyone in Spring Training, but he never said that Burleson was preferred.

and stop using multiple accounts to bump your threads. You're using the same syntax with each one. That's an easy ban with any website. You know this, you've been banned before for it. Good luck with the mods.... you get upset with CT when we call you "stupid", and you wonder why? Learn from this.

Bases loaded, as clutch of a situation as one could have, he mustered a .267 OPS, .100 BA, with 5, only 5 RBI (you only believe in that stat).
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Re: It seems most posters feel Walker and Gorman will be more productive than Burleson

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greyhawk wrote: 30 Jan 2025 17:45 pm Both Walker and Gorman have higher ceilings --- Burleson may have a higher floor. This is the year to find out.
Excellent point.
Pretty clear Burleson is a productive MLB bat - and even if he never becomes anything more there will be opportunities for him in MLB for several years.
Gorman's ceiling, at the moment, is the easiest to see: no question he can become a perennial 30+ HR hitter, though he needs to find more consistent contact.
Walker is a fascinating case: could be another David Green, or could be another Chili Davis type player.
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Re: It seems most posters feel Walker and Gorman will be more productive than Burleson

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Pura Vida wrote: 31 Jan 2025 17:09 pm
Drewman+ wrote: 31 Jan 2025 14:32 pm
Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 14:29 pm
NYCardsFan wrote: 31 Jan 2025 14:26 pm
Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 14:20 pm
Drewman+ wrote: 31 Jan 2025 14:14 pm
Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 09:30 am
Futuregm2 wrote: 31 Jan 2025 09:24 am
Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 09:19 am Obviously, it's imperative that Walker and Gorman demonstrate the lofty goals the Cardinals had/have for them. However, it will be almost as important for Burleson to return to the All Star caliber production he had the first half of '24. He was really good. How soon some forget that.
He had 2 great months. 45 of his 78 RBI came in June and July. In the other 4 months he had RBI totals of 10, 8, 9, and 6. Gorman sucked last year and then got sent down and he actually had more 10+ RBI months (4) than Burleson (3).
That's exactly my point. "it will be almost as important for Burleson to return to the All Star caliber production he had the first half of '24". It will be fascinating to see how all three produce in '25. Walker, Gorman and Burleson.
That's really what Buttercup and Sanusual6 and Robert Shelton always say?
This thread was heading out of the front page. Gracias for the bump.
Why do you even care?

Unless, of course, your primary purpose on this forum is to get attention . . .
Because I enjoy baseball discussion on topics that interest me. Especially, courteous responses. Any other questions?
Pure Vida always says that.
#reported
What are you talking about? This is juvenile!
I agree Shady.
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Re: It seems most posters feel Walker and Gorman will be more productive than Burleson

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craviduce wrote: 31 Jan 2025 18:54 pm
Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 18:47 pm
NYCardsFan wrote: 31 Jan 2025 17:10 pm
Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 16:51 pm
SamTheMan wrote: 31 Jan 2025 15:21 pm For what it's worth, my prediction for TGAB...
12 HR
48 RBI
.248, .297, .386, .683
If he's a part time player. Some of your numbers are feasible. However, I'd be really surprised if Burleson ends up with a BA under .250 if he sees, primarily, RHP. He could very likely be the best hitter on the current roster against RHP.
We've gone over this before: In 2024 alone, Contreras, Donovan, and Herrera were all better hitters than Burleson vs. RHP. And career-wise, Burleson is not even close to being the best hitter on the current roster vs. RHP. Why do you keep repeating claims that you know aren't true? I don't know, Shady, sure seems like you might be operating in bad faith . . .
I have pointed out the adoration Cardinals experts have alluded to about Burleson's hitting ability. And who they would prefer batting in the clutch against outstanding RHP pitching. The doubters have called the experts shills for the organizations. But think about it, why don't they say those same distinct accolades for other players? Burleson is their preference, it seems.
no one, not one professional expert, pundit, journalist ever said that "Burleson is preferred in the clutch against outstanding RHP pitching". You're the only one, you've been saying it for 2 years, and his stats NEVER have showed he's clutch.

Stop Trolling with repetitive garbage. Jim Edmonds hyped Burleson last Spring Training, he hyped everyone in Spring Training, but he never said that Burleson was preferred.

and stop using multiple accounts to bump your threads. You're using the same syntax with each one. That's an easy ban with any website. You know this, you've been banned before for it. Good luck with the mods.... you get upset with CT when we call you "stupid", and you wonder why? Learn from this.

Bases loaded, as clutch of a situation as one could have, he mustered a .267 OPS, .100 BA, with 5, only 5 RBI (you only believe in that stat).
Evidently, you haven't paid close enough attention to the Cardinals telecasts and post game shows. It seems you don't want to hear what you don't want to hear. So be it.
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Re: It seems most posters feel Walker and Gorman will be more productive than Burleson

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Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 19:20 pm
craviduce wrote: 31 Jan 2025 18:54 pm
Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 18:47 pm
NYCardsFan wrote: 31 Jan 2025 17:10 pm
Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 16:51 pm
SamTheMan wrote: 31 Jan 2025 15:21 pm For what it's worth, my prediction for TGAB...
12 HR
48 RBI
.248, .297, .386, .683
If he's a part time player. Some of your numbers are feasible. However, I'd be really surprised if Burleson ends up with a BA under .250 if he sees, primarily, RHP. He could very likely be the best hitter on the current roster against RHP.
We've gone over this before: In 2024 alone, Contreras, Donovan, and Herrera were all better hitters than Burleson vs. RHP. And career-wise, Burleson is not even close to being the best hitter on the current roster vs. RHP. Why do you keep repeating claims that you know aren't true? I don't know, Shady, sure seems like you might be operating in bad faith . . .
I have pointed out the adoration Cardinals experts have alluded to about Burleson's hitting ability. And who they would prefer batting in the clutch against outstanding RHP pitching. The doubters have called the experts shills for the organizations. But think about it, why don't they say those same distinct accolades for other players? Burleson is their preference, it seems.
no one, not one professional expert, pundit, journalist ever said that "Burleson is preferred in the clutch against outstanding RHP pitching". You're the only one, you've been saying it for 2 years, and his stats NEVER have showed he's clutch.

Stop Trolling with repetitive garbage. Jim Edmonds hyped Burleson last Spring Training, he hyped everyone in Spring Training, but he never said that Burleson was preferred.

and stop using multiple accounts to bump your threads. You're using the same syntax with each one. That's an easy ban with any website. You know this, you've been banned before for it. Good luck with the mods.... you get upset with CT when we call you "stupid", and you wonder why? Learn from this.

Bases loaded, as clutch of a situation as one could have, he mustered a .267 OPS, .100 BA, with 5, only 5 RBI (you only believe in that stat).
Evidently, you haven't paid close enough attention to the Cardinals telecasts and post game shows. It seems you don't want to hear what you don't want to hear. So be it.
Evidently, you have absolutely NO sources, links, or evidence to back your claims (as usual). It seems you don't want to support what you can't support. So be it.
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Re: It seems most posters feel Walker and Gorman will be more productive than Burleson

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NYCardsFan wrote: 31 Jan 2025 18:51 pm
Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 18:47 pm
NYCardsFan wrote: 31 Jan 2025 17:10 pm
Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 16:51 pm
SamTheMan wrote: 31 Jan 2025 15:21 pm For what it's worth, my prediction for TGAB...
12 HR
48 RBI
.248, .297, .386, .683
If he's a part time player. Some of your numbers are feasible. However, I'd be really surprised if Burleson ends up with a BA under .250 if he sees, primarily, RHP. He could very likely be the best hitter on the current roster against RHP.
We've gone over this before: In 2024 alone, Contreras, Donovan, and Herrera were all better hitters than Burleson vs. RHP. And career-wise, Burleson is not even close to being the best hitter on the current roster vs. RHP. Why do you keep repeating claims that you know aren't true? I don't know, Shady, sure seems like you might be operating in bad faith . . .
I have pointed out the adoration Cardinals experts have alluded to about Burleson's hitting ability. And who they would prefer batting in the clutch against outstanding RHP pitching. The doubters have called the experts shills for the organizations. But think about it, why don't they say those same distinct accolades for other players? Burleson is their preference, it seems.
Source(s)? Link(s)? Anything? Bueller?

Anyway, who cares what Brad Thompson thinks? The numbers are the numbers.
Do the Cardinals have any actual "experts" in the organization? Who are they? And what exactly are these "accolades" they have supppsedly bestowed upon Mr Burleson?

So many questions...so few answers.
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Re: It seems most posters feel Walker and Gorman will be more productive than Burleson

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NYCardsFan wrote: 31 Jan 2025 19:30 pm
Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 19:20 pm
craviduce wrote: 31 Jan 2025 18:54 pm
Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 18:47 pm
NYCardsFan wrote: 31 Jan 2025 17:10 pm
Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 16:51 pm
SamTheMan wrote: 31 Jan 2025 15:21 pm For what it's worth, my prediction for TGAB...
12 HR
48 RBI
.248, .297, .386, .683
If he's a part time player. Some of your numbers are feasible. However, I'd be really surprised if Burleson ends up with a BA under .250 if he sees, primarily, RHP. He could very likely be the best hitter on the current roster against RHP.
We've gone over this before: In 2024 alone, Contreras, Donovan, and Herrera were all better hitters than Burleson vs. RHP. And career-wise, Burleson is not even close to being the best hitter on the current roster vs. RHP. Why do you keep repeating claims that you know aren't true? I don't know, Shady, sure seems like you might be operating in bad faith . . .
I have pointed out the adoration Cardinals experts have alluded to about Burleson's hitting ability. And who they would prefer batting in the clutch against outstanding RHP pitching. The doubters have called the experts shills for the organizations. But think about it, why don't they say those same distinct accolades for other players? Burleson is their preference, it seems.
no one, not one professional expert, pundit, journalist ever said that "Burleson is preferred in the clutch against outstanding RHP pitching". You're the only one, you've been saying it for 2 years, and his stats NEVER have showed he's clutch.

Stop Trolling with repetitive garbage. Jim Edmonds hyped Burleson last Spring Training, he hyped everyone in Spring Training, but he never said that Burleson was preferred.

and stop using multiple accounts to bump your threads. You're using the same syntax with each one. That's an easy ban with any website. You know this, you've been banned before for it. Good luck with the mods.... you get upset with CT when we call you "stupid", and you wonder why? Learn from this.

Bases loaded, as clutch of a situation as one could have, he mustered a .267 OPS, .100 BA, with 5, only 5 RBI (you only believe in that stat).
Evidently, you haven't paid close enough attention to the Cardinals telecasts and post game shows. It seems you don't want to hear what you don't want to hear. So be it.
It seems you have absolutely NO sources, links, or evidence to back your claims (as usual). So be it.

What Shady has is a lot of sock accounts. And an unholy man-lust/obsession with poor Biscuits.
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Re: It seems most posters feel Walker and Gorman will be more productive than Burleson

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Monsieur De Treville wrote: 31 Jan 2025 19:32 pm
NYCardsFan wrote: 31 Jan 2025 18:51 pm
Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 18:47 pm
NYCardsFan wrote: 31 Jan 2025 17:10 pm
Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 16:51 pm
SamTheMan wrote: 31 Jan 2025 15:21 pm For what it's worth, my prediction for TGAB...
12 HR
48 RBI
.248, .297, .386, .683
If he's a part time player. Some of your numbers are feasible. However, I'd be really surprised if Burleson ends up with a BA under .250 if he sees, primarily, RHP. He could very likely be the best hitter on the current roster against RHP.
We've gone over this before: In 2024 alone, Contreras, Donovan, and Herrera were all better hitters than Burleson vs. RHP. And career-wise, Burleson is not even close to being the best hitter on the current roster vs. RHP. Why do you keep repeating claims that you know aren't true? I don't know, Shady, sure seems like you might be operating in bad faith . . .
I have pointed out the adoration Cardinals experts have alluded to about Burleson's hitting ability. And who they would prefer batting in the clutch against outstanding RHP pitching. The doubters have called the experts shills for the organizations. But think about it, why don't they say those same distinct accolades for other players? Burleson is their preference, it seems.
Source(s)? Link(s)? Anything? Bueller?

Anyway, who cares what Brad Thompson thinks? The numbers are the numbers.
Do the Cardinals have any actual "experts" in the organization? Who are they? And what exactly are these "accolades" they have supppsedly bestowed upon Mr Burleson?

So many questions...so few answers.
I would advise that you pay much closer attention to the Cardinals telecasts and post game shows. You seem to be missing some quite obvious praise for Burleson's hitting ability.
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Re: It seems most posters feel Walker and Gorman will be more productive than Burleson

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Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 19:52 pm
Monsieur De Treville wrote: 31 Jan 2025 19:32 pm
NYCardsFan wrote: 31 Jan 2025 18:51 pm
Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 18:47 pm
NYCardsFan wrote: 31 Jan 2025 17:10 pm
Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 16:51 pm
SamTheMan wrote: 31 Jan 2025 15:21 pm For what it's worth, my prediction for TGAB...
12 HR
48 RBI
.248, .297, .386, .683
If he's a part time player. Some of your numbers are feasible. However, I'd be really surprised if Burleson ends up with a BA under .250 if he sees, primarily, RHP. He could very likely be the best hitter on the current roster against RHP.
We've gone over this before: In 2024 alone, Contreras, Donovan, and Herrera were all better hitters than Burleson vs. RHP. And career-wise, Burleson is not even close to being the best hitter on the current roster vs. RHP. Why do you keep repeating claims that you know aren't true? I don't know, Shady, sure seems like you might be operating in bad faith . . .
I have pointed out the adoration Cardinals experts have alluded to about Burleson's hitting ability. And who they would prefer batting in the clutch against outstanding RHP pitching. The doubters have called the experts shills for the organizations. But think about it, why don't they say those same distinct accolades for other players? Burleson is their preference, it seems.
Source(s)? Link(s)? Anything? Bueller?

Anyway, who cares what Brad Thompson thinks? The numbers are the numbers.
Do the Cardinals have any actual "experts" in the organization? Who are they? And what exactly are these "accolades" they have supppsedly bestowed upon Mr Burleson?

So many questions...so few answers.
I would advise that you pay much closer attention to the Cardinals telecasts and post game shows. You seem to be missing some quite obvious praise for Burleson's hitting ability.
Do you have more sock puppets or Facebook accounts?
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Re: It seems most posters feel Walker and Gorman will be more productive than Burleson

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Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 19:52 pm
Monsieur De Treville wrote: 31 Jan 2025 19:32 pm
NYCardsFan wrote: 31 Jan 2025 18:51 pm
Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 18:47 pm
NYCardsFan wrote: 31 Jan 2025 17:10 pm
Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 16:51 pm
SamTheMan wrote: 31 Jan 2025 15:21 pm For what it's worth, my prediction for TGAB...
12 HR
48 RBI
.248, .297, .386, .683
If he's a part time player. Some of your numbers are feasible. However, I'd be really surprised if Burleson ends up with a BA under .250 if he sees, primarily, RHP. He could very likely be the best hitter on the current roster against RHP.
We've gone over this before: In 2024 alone, Contreras, Donovan, and Herrera were all better hitters than Burleson vs. RHP. And career-wise, Burleson is not even close to being the best hitter on the current roster vs. RHP. Why do you keep repeating claims that you know aren't true? I don't know, Shady, sure seems like you might be operating in bad faith . . .
I have pointed out the adoration Cardinals experts have alluded to about Burleson's hitting ability. And who they would prefer batting in the clutch against outstanding RHP pitching. The doubters have called the experts shills for the organizations. But think about it, why don't they say those same distinct accolades for other players? Burleson is their preference, it seems.
Source(s)? Link(s)? Anything? Bueller?

Anyway, who cares what Brad Thompson thinks? The numbers are the numbers.
Do the Cardinals have any actual "experts" in the organization? Who are they? And what exactly are these "accolades" they have supppsedly bestowed upon Mr Burleson?

So many questions...so few answers.
I would advise that you pay much closer attention to the Cardinals telecasts and post game shows. You seem to be missing some quite obvious praise for Burleson's hitting ability.
Praise does not win games. Offensive & defensive production does. So far during his 3 year-career, your Beloved Burly has not been particularly productive as evidenced by a career 0.4 WAR and 95 OPS+.
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Monsieur De Treville wrote: 31 Jan 2025 20:06 pm
Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 19:52 pm
Monsieur De Treville wrote: 31 Jan 2025 19:32 pm
NYCardsFan wrote: 31 Jan 2025 18:51 pm
Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 18:47 pm
NYCardsFan wrote: 31 Jan 2025 17:10 pm
Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 16:51 pm
SamTheMan wrote: 31 Jan 2025 15:21 pm For what it's worth, my prediction for TGAB...
12 HR
48 RBI
.248, .297, .386, .683
If he's a part time player. Some of your numbers are feasible. However, I'd be really surprised if Burleson ends up with a BA under .250 if he sees, primarily, RHP. He could very likely be the best hitter on the current roster against RHP.
We've gone over this before: In 2024 alone, Contreras, Donovan, and Herrera were all better hitters than Burleson vs. RHP. And career-wise, Burleson is not even close to being the best hitter on the current roster vs. RHP. Why do you keep repeating claims that you know aren't true? I don't know, Shady, sure seems like you might be operating in bad faith . . .
I have pointed out the adoration Cardinals experts have alluded to about Burleson's hitting ability. And who they would prefer batting in the clutch against outstanding RHP pitching. The doubters have called the experts shills for the organizations. But think about it, why don't they say those same distinct accolades for other players? Burleson is their preference, it seems.
Source(s)? Link(s)? Anything? Bueller?

Anyway, who cares what Brad Thompson thinks? The numbers are the numbers.
Do the Cardinals have any actual "experts" in the organization? Who are they? And what exactly are these "accolades" they have supppsedly bestowed upon Mr Burleson?

So many questions...so few answers.
I would advise that you pay much closer attention to the Cardinals telecasts and post game shows. You seem to be missing some quite obvious praise for Burleson's hitting ability.
Praise does not win games. Offensive & defensive production does. So far during his 3 year-career, your Beloved Burly has not been particularly productive as evidenced by a career 0.4 WAR and 95 OPS+.
The Cardinals organization and expert analysts seem to REALLY like Burleson. Regardless of what pseudo, wannabe experts on CT think. That's just the way it is. Sorry.
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Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 20:10 pm
Monsieur De Treville wrote: 31 Jan 2025 20:06 pm
Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 19:52 pm
Monsieur De Treville wrote: 31 Jan 2025 19:32 pm
NYCardsFan wrote: 31 Jan 2025 18:51 pm
Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 18:47 pm
NYCardsFan wrote: 31 Jan 2025 17:10 pm
Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 16:51 pm
SamTheMan wrote: 31 Jan 2025 15:21 pm For what it's worth, my prediction for TGAB...
12 HR
48 RBI
.248, .297, .386, .683
If he's a part time player. Some of your numbers are feasible. However, I'd be really surprised if Burleson ends up with a BA under .250 if he sees, primarily, RHP. He could very likely be the best hitter on the current roster against RHP.
We've gone over this before: In 2024 alone, Contreras, Donovan, and Herrera were all better hitters than Burleson vs. RHP. And career-wise, Burleson is not even close to being the best hitter on the current roster vs. RHP. Why do you keep repeating claims that you know aren't true? I don't know, Shady, sure seems like you might be operating in bad faith . . .
I have pointed out the adoration Cardinals experts have alluded to about Burleson's hitting ability. And who they would prefer batting in the clutch against outstanding RHP pitching. The doubters have called the experts shills for the organizations. But think about it, why don't they say those same distinct accolades for other players? Burleson is their preference, it seems.
Source(s)? Link(s)? Anything? Bueller?

Anyway, who cares what Brad Thompson thinks? The numbers are the numbers.
Do the Cardinals have any actual "experts" in the organization? Who are they? And what exactly are these "accolades" they have supppsedly bestowed upon Mr Burleson?

So many questions...so few answers.
I would advise that you pay much closer attention to the Cardinals telecasts and post game shows. You seem to be missing some quite obvious praise for Burleson's hitting ability.
Praise does not win games. Offensive & defensive production does. So far during his 3 year-career, your Beloved Burly has not been particularly productive as evidenced by a career 0.4 WAR and 95 OPS+.
The Cardinals organization seems to REALLY like Burleson. Regardless of what pseudo, wannabe experts on CT think. That's just the way it is. Sorry.
Can you please provide any documentation to support your position? Thanks in advance!
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Drewman+ wrote: 31 Jan 2025 20:17 pm
Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 20:10 pm
Monsieur De Treville wrote: 31 Jan 2025 20:06 pm
Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 19:52 pm
Monsieur De Treville wrote: 31 Jan 2025 19:32 pm
NYCardsFan wrote: 31 Jan 2025 18:51 pm
Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 18:47 pm
NYCardsFan wrote: 31 Jan 2025 17:10 pm
Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 16:51 pm
SamTheMan wrote: 31 Jan 2025 15:21 pm For what it's worth, my prediction for TGAB...
12 HR
48 RBI
.248, .297, .386, .683
If he's a part time player. Some of your numbers are feasible. However, I'd be really surprised if Burleson ends up with a BA under .250 if he sees, primarily, RHP. He could very likely be the best hitter on the current roster against RHP.
We've gone over this before: In 2024 alone, Contreras, Donovan, and Herrera were all better hitters than Burleson vs. RHP. And career-wise, Burleson is not even close to being the best hitter on the current roster vs. RHP. Why do you keep repeating claims that you know aren't true? I don't know, Shady, sure seems like you might be operating in bad faith . . .
I have pointed out the adoration Cardinals experts have alluded to about Burleson's hitting ability. And who they would prefer batting in the clutch against outstanding RHP pitching. The doubters have called the experts shills for the organizations. But think about it, why don't they say those same distinct accolades for other players? Burleson is their preference, it seems.
Source(s)? Link(s)? Anything? Bueller?

Anyway, who cares what Brad Thompson thinks? The numbers are the numbers.
Do the Cardinals have any actual "experts" in the organization? Who are they? And what exactly are these "accolades" they have supppsedly bestowed upon Mr Burleson?

So many questions...so few answers.
I would advise that you pay much closer attention to the Cardinals telecasts and post game shows. You seem to be missing some quite obvious praise for Burleson's hitting ability.
Praise does not win games. Offensive & defensive production does. So far during his 3 year-career, your Beloved Burly has not been particularly productive as evidenced by a career 0.4 WAR and 95 OPS+.
The Cardinals organization seems to REALLY like Burleson. Regardless of what pseudo, wannabe experts on CT think. That's just the way it is. Sorry.
Can you please provide any documentation to support your position? Thanks in advance!
You need to pay closer attention to Cardinals telecasts and post game shows.
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Re: It seems most posters feel Walker and Gorman will be more productive than Burleson

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Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 20:10 pm
Monsieur De Treville wrote: 31 Jan 2025 20:06 pm
Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 19:52 pm
Monsieur De Treville wrote: 31 Jan 2025 19:32 pm
NYCardsFan wrote: 31 Jan 2025 18:51 pm
Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 18:47 pm
NYCardsFan wrote: 31 Jan 2025 17:10 pm
Shady wrote: 31 Jan 2025 16:51 pm
SamTheMan wrote: 31 Jan 2025 15:21 pm For what it's worth, my prediction for TGAB...
12 HR
48 RBI
.248, .297, .386, .683
If he's a part time player. Some of your numbers are feasible. However, I'd be really surprised if Burleson ends up with a BA under .250 if he sees, primarily, RHP. He could very likely be the best hitter on the current roster against RHP.
We've gone over this before: In 2024 alone, Contreras, Donovan, and Herrera were all better hitters than Burleson vs. RHP. And career-wise, Burleson is not even close to being the best hitter on the current roster vs. RHP. Why do you keep repeating claims that you know aren't true? I don't know, Shady, sure seems like you might be operating in bad faith . . .
I have pointed out the adoration Cardinals experts have alluded to about Burleson's hitting ability. And who they would prefer batting in the clutch against outstanding RHP pitching. The doubters have called the experts shills for the organizations. But think about it, why don't they say those same distinct accolades for other players? Burleson is their preference, it seems.
Source(s)? Link(s)? Anything? Bueller?

Anyway, who cares what Brad Thompson thinks? The numbers are the numbers.
Do the Cardinals have any actual "experts" in the organization? Who are they? And what exactly are these "accolades" they have supppsedly bestowed upon Mr Burleson?

So many questions...so few answers.
I would advise that you pay much closer attention to the Cardinals telecasts and post game shows. You seem to be missing some quite obvious praise for Burleson's hitting ability.
Praise does not win games. Offensive & defensive production does. So far during his 3 year-career, your Beloved Burly has not been particularly productive as evidenced by a career 0.4 WAR and 95 OPS+.
The Cardinals organization and expert analysts seem to REALLY like Burleson. Regardless of what pseudo, wannabe experts on CT think. That's just the way it is. Sorry.
I'll ask again...who are these experts and what have they said? Be as specific as the data I have supplied which proves Burly's mediocrity.
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