Busch stadium is an issue

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Busch stadium is an issue

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Players hate playing here. They love the fan support but Busch is a horrendous park to play in especially during the peak summer heat. The construction projects have just amplified the issue and I fear the new millennium hotel project will make it even worse. There is just no air flow and the air just sits in the stadium and gets thicker and thicker.
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Good thing Wetherholt disagrees. And Busch Stadium is hardly the only stadium where it is hot in the summer.
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billybaseball wrote: 28 Jul 2026 22:53 pm Players hate playing here. They love the fan support but Busch is a horrendous park to play in especially during the peak summer heat. The construction projects have just amplified the issue and I fear the new millennium hotel project will make it even worse. There is just no air flow and the air just sits in the stadium and gets thicker and thicker.
Quotes?
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DIAMONDINTHEROUGH wrote: 28 Jul 2026 22:56 pm Good thing Wetherholt disagrees. And Busch Stadium is hardly the only stadium where it is hot in the summer.
Hot was Busch II in the closed bowl on the concrete with a 1\2 inch of plastic grass over it. Some of those teams were even able to bring in and retain some pretty good players who somehow managed to win a few games.
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It has always played slightly favorable to pitchers. But if players truly hate it (doubtful), then they should've seen Busch 2 in the 70s and 80s. No airflow, deep fences, and the astroturf melting you during afternoon games.
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JuanAgosto wrote: 28 Jul 2026 23:08 pm It has always played slightly favorable to pitchers. But if players truly hate it (doubtful), then they should've seen Busch 2 in the 70s and 80s. No airflow, deep fences, and the astroturf melting you during afternoon games.
When asked his opinion of the then-new Busch II, Casey Stengel said, “The park holds the heat well.”
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Chicago seems to like it.

Nobody else seems to have issues here.
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billybaseball wrote: 28 Jul 2026 22:53 pm Players hate playing here. They love the fan support but Busch is a horrendous park to play in especially during the peak summer heat. The construction projects have just amplified the issue and I fear the new millennium hotel project will make it even worse. There is just no air flow and the air just sits in the stadium and gets thicker and thicker.
Could be the quality of players, the Cardinals have on their roster that’s the problem.
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rightthinker4 wrote: 28 Jul 2026 23:34 pm
billybaseball wrote: 28 Jul 2026 22:53 pm Players hate playing here. They love the fan support but Busch is a horrendous park to play in especially during the peak summer heat. The construction projects have just amplified the issue and I fear the new millennium hotel project will make it even worse. There is just no air flow and the air just sits in the stadium and gets thicker and thicker.
Could be the quality of players, the Cardinals have on their roster that’s the problem.
Actually, it is the hotdog wrappers.
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imyourhuckleberry wrote: 28 Jul 2026 23:07 pm
DIAMONDINTHEROUGH wrote: 28 Jul 2026 22:56 pm Good thing Wetherholt disagrees. And Busch Stadium is hardly the only stadium where it is hot in the summer.
Hot was Busch II in the closed bowl on the concrete with a 1\2 inch of plastic grass over it. Some of those teams were even able to bring in and retain some pretty good players who somehow managed to win a few games.
I don't doubt that at all. Didn't Caray once work a game with little clothes on? I'm glad most stadiums at least have grass now. Fake turf was the worst.
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imyourhuckleberry wrote: 28 Jul 2026 23:07 pm
DIAMONDINTHEROUGH wrote: 28 Jul 2026 22:56 pm Good thing Wetherholt disagrees. And Busch Stadium is hardly the only stadium where it is hot in the summer.
Hot was Busch II in the closed bowl on the concrete with a 1\2 inch of plastic grass over it. Some of those teams were even able to bring in and retain some pretty good players who somehow managed to win a few games.
But that was before global warming so summer only lasted weeks. Pitchers would wear red jackets when they got on base in September.
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billybaseball wrote: 28 Jul 2026 22:53 pm Players hate playing here. They love the fan support but Busch is a horrendous park to play in especially during the peak summer heat. The construction projects have just amplified the issue and I fear the new millennium hotel project will make it even worse. There is just no air flow and the air just sits in the stadium and gets thicker and thicker.
Heat wimp alert.
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butsir01 wrote: 28 Jul 2026 23:15 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: 28 Jul 2026 23:08 pm It has always played slightly favorable to pitchers. But if players truly hate it (doubtful), then they should've seen Busch 2 in the 70s and 80s. No airflow, deep fences, and the astroturf melting you during afternoon games.
When asked his opinion of the then-new Busch II, Casey Stengel said, “The park holds the heat well.”
He wasn't lying. :lol:
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I know gray had trouble playing in the heat said he had trouble gripping the ball and the numbers don’t lie and arenado had complaints about hitting there
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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 29 Jul 2026 00:34 am I know gray had trouble playing in the heat said he had trouble gripping the ball and the numbers don’t lie and arenado had complaints about hitting there
Than why did he come here to play?
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So the theory used to be the Cubs played so many day games, they became more exhausted comped to the other teams as the season and summer took their toll.
Now maybe the Midwest heat and humidity + lack of air movement have similar effects in the Lou. The accumulated heat unit theory, lol. Cooked by August.
Idk, but would speculate Milwaukee's home stadium does help that team.