Busch stadium is an issue
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billybaseball
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Busch stadium is an issue
Players hate playing here. They love the fan support but Busch is a horrendous park to play in especially during the peak summer heat. The construction projects have just amplified the issue and I fear the new millennium hotel project will make it even worse. There is just no air flow and the air just sits in the stadium and gets thicker and thicker.
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DIAMONDINTHEROUGH
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Re: Busch stadium is an issue
Good thing Wetherholt disagrees. And Busch Stadium is hardly the only stadium where it is hot in the summer.
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Re: Busch stadium is an issue
Quotes?billybaseball wrote: ↑28 Jul 2026 22:53 pm Players hate playing here. They love the fan support but Busch is a horrendous park to play in especially during the peak summer heat. The construction projects have just amplified the issue and I fear the new millennium hotel project will make it even worse. There is just no air flow and the air just sits in the stadium and gets thicker and thicker.
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imyourhuckleberry
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Hot was Busch II in the closed bowl on the concrete with a 1\2 inch of plastic grass over it. Some of those teams were even able to bring in and retain some pretty good players who somehow managed to win a few games.DIAMONDINTHEROUGH wrote: ↑28 Jul 2026 22:56 pm Good thing Wetherholt disagrees. And Busch Stadium is hardly the only stadium where it is hot in the summer.
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JuanAgosto
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It has always played slightly favorable to pitchers. But if players truly hate it (doubtful), then they should've seen Busch 2 in the 70s and 80s. No airflow, deep fences, and the astroturf melting you during afternoon games.
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butsir01
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Re: Busch stadium is an issue
When asked his opinion of the then-new Busch II, Casey Stengel said, “The park holds the heat well.”JuanAgosto wrote: ↑28 Jul 2026 23:08 pm It has always played slightly favorable to pitchers. But if players truly hate it (doubtful), then they should've seen Busch 2 in the 70s and 80s. No airflow, deep fences, and the astroturf melting you during afternoon games.
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Strummer Jones
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Re: Busch stadium is an issue
Chicago seems to like it.
Nobody else seems to have issues here.
Nobody else seems to have issues here.
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rightthinker4
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Could be the quality of players, the Cardinals have on their roster that’s the problem.billybaseball wrote: ↑28 Jul 2026 22:53 pm Players hate playing here. They love the fan support but Busch is a horrendous park to play in especially during the peak summer heat. The construction projects have just amplified the issue and I fear the new millennium hotel project will make it even worse. There is just no air flow and the air just sits in the stadium and gets thicker and thicker.
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butsir01
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Actually, it is the hotdog wrappers.rightthinker4 wrote: ↑28 Jul 2026 23:34 pmCould be the quality of players, the Cardinals have on their roster that’s the problem.billybaseball wrote: ↑28 Jul 2026 22:53 pm Players hate playing here. They love the fan support but Busch is a horrendous park to play in especially during the peak summer heat. The construction projects have just amplified the issue and I fear the new millennium hotel project will make it even worse. There is just no air flow and the air just sits in the stadium and gets thicker and thicker.
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DIAMONDINTHEROUGH
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I don't doubt that at all. Didn't Caray once work a game with little clothes on? I'm glad most stadiums at least have grass now. Fake turf was the worst.imyourhuckleberry wrote: ↑28 Jul 2026 23:07 pmHot was Busch II in the closed bowl on the concrete with a 1\2 inch of plastic grass over it. Some of those teams were even able to bring in and retain some pretty good players who somehow managed to win a few games.DIAMONDINTHEROUGH wrote: ↑28 Jul 2026 22:56 pm Good thing Wetherholt disagrees. And Busch Stadium is hardly the only stadium where it is hot in the summer.
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Carp4Cy
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But that was before global warming so summer only lasted weeks. Pitchers would wear red jackets when they got on base in September.imyourhuckleberry wrote: ↑28 Jul 2026 23:07 pmHot was Busch II in the closed bowl on the concrete with a 1\2 inch of plastic grass over it. Some of those teams were even able to bring in and retain some pretty good players who somehow managed to win a few games.DIAMONDINTHEROUGH wrote: ↑28 Jul 2026 22:56 pm Good thing Wetherholt disagrees. And Busch Stadium is hardly the only stadium where it is hot in the summer.
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Re: Busch stadium is an issue
Heat wimp alert.billybaseball wrote: ↑28 Jul 2026 22:53 pm Players hate playing here. They love the fan support but Busch is a horrendous park to play in especially during the peak summer heat. The construction projects have just amplified the issue and I fear the new millennium hotel project will make it even worse. There is just no air flow and the air just sits in the stadium and gets thicker and thicker.
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JuanAgosto
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Re: Busch stadium is an issue
He wasn't lying.butsir01 wrote: ↑28 Jul 2026 23:15 pmWhen asked his opinion of the then-new Busch II, Casey Stengel said, “The park holds the heat well.”JuanAgosto wrote: ↑28 Jul 2026 23:08 pm It has always played slightly favorable to pitchers. But if players truly hate it (doubtful), then they should've seen Busch 2 in the 70s and 80s. No airflow, deep fences, and the astroturf melting you during afternoon games.
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Ozziesfan41
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Re: Busch stadium is an issue
I know gray had trouble playing in the heat said he had trouble gripping the ball and the numbers don’t lie and arenado had complaints about hitting there
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Than why did he come here to play?Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑29 Jul 2026 00:34 am I know gray had trouble playing in the heat said he had trouble gripping the ball and the numbers don’t lie and arenado had complaints about hitting there
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JDW
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So the theory used to be the Cubs played so many day games, they became more exhausted comped to the other teams as the season and summer took their toll.
Now maybe the Midwest heat and humidity + lack of air movement have similar effects in the Lou. The accumulated heat unit theory, lol. Cooked by August.
Idk, but would speculate Milwaukee's home stadium does help that team.
Now maybe the Midwest heat and humidity + lack of air movement have similar effects in the Lou. The accumulated heat unit theory, lol. Cooked by August.
Idk, but would speculate Milwaukee's home stadium does help that team.